Most expensive ride built at WDW.

Rayray

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Thrawn, how much did Test Track Cost? Maybe the $300 million figure is the sum of World of Motion along with the TT construction.

BTW, does anyone know how much SSE cost?
 

Thrawn

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MartyMouse said:
Could you post a link to where Disney discloses how much they spend on developing rides, I’m sure it’s fascinating to see how costs have skyrocketed over the years. Also I’m curious to see it because I didn’t think even the stock holders (and my son is one) had access to that information.

I don't have a link. I get more detailed company information because I am considered a minority shareholder. (Which basically means I own enough shares to actually be contacted by a WDC rep when they are going to have shareholder votes - Please don't ask how many shares that is.)

However, if you take a look in the annual report for the spending on parks, you can get reasonable estimates of expenditures on new attractions.
 

Rayray

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animal_king1990 said:
Where did you guys get $75 million for E.E.?
All the sites state $100 million as its official cost to build.

I think I got that figure from the now defunct Disney Magazine. It was only an estimate and was given about a year ago.
 

CTXRover

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animal_king1990 said:
Then why do sites all list E.E's cost as $100 million? Even the official announcement says it's gonna take $100 million.

Disney never "officially" releases the cost of their attractions, expecially in press releases. Sometimes things get leaked out here and there in stockholder updates or when there is litigation involved, etc. and people can piece it together as to how much something cost. That is why you'll see estimates of TT costing anywhere from 65 million to 300 million. Part of it depends on who or what these people are using as their sources and reference point. Another thing to consider when you see the cost of an attraction is whether or not that "source" is just taking into account what it took to physically build it or are they including the costs or research and testing as well.

In most papers you will see that industry experts believe EE will cost 100 million. There is absolutely no official release of the cost and that estimate did not come from Disney's PR folks.
 

Madison

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Thrawn said:
I can't see ToT costing $75m, because freefall rides don't cost that much. I could see $50m, but thats being generous and giving about $20-25m to theming.

If I recall correctly, Florida's Tower rang in at about $110M, so it's plausible that California's ride would be something less -- i.e., $75M.

The ride system may ostensibly be little more than a freefall ride, but as I'm sure you're aware, it is not a freefall ride at all. It is, all things considered, a fairly complex ride system and was developed wholly by Walt Disney Imagineering; though with input from Otis Elevator Company. It has pretty well nothing in common with other major, turn-key freefall systems on the market today from companies like Intamin or S&S.

It was, at its opening, the most expensive attraction ever built by Disney, rivaled in the following year, I'd imagine, by The Indiana Jones Adventure at Disneyland. Again, in that case, the ride was very expensive due to research and development costs.
 

Montu

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Thrawn said:
Mission:Space was about $220 million in disclosed costs

I don't think ToT was that expensive. Freefall rides aren't.

By comparison, Everest is in the $75 million range.

Actually, SPACE was a several million dollars above the $220 (though under $300)... Believe it or not, it's the most expensive theme park attraction built to date, and not nearly the draw it was thought to be during conception.

The approximate price someone gave for Tower of Terror is actually quite close to the actual - though just a million or two above.

Thing to understand here - you CANNOT go by what Disney publically says the cost of an attraction is, because anything that cost a lot of money is always called "$100 million" -- regaurdless of how many tens of millions above that number the actual cost was.
 

Thrawn

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Walt Sent Me said:
I guess we will just have to agree to disagree. lol

No? It didn't cost $300m. There just simply isn't any way. It used an existing ride system, didn't do anything "revolutionary", and for the most part used an existing building.

Thrawn, how much did Test Track Cost? Maybe the $300 million figure is the sum of World of Motion along with the TT construction.

I would put the TT construction at $50-60m, but I don't have information that dates back that far. Maybe with all the problems, it could be up to around $100m by now, but $300m simply isn't possible.

Where did you guys get $75 million for E.E.?
All the sites state $100 million as its official cost to build.

The $100m figure includes the other expenditures included with EE, such as the walkway, the grading of the nearby land for possible future expansion, etc. Same as figures for ToT would. M:S cost includes the fix for the sinkhole, TT didn't need any of that since it was replacing an existing building.
 

Thrawn

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Montu said:
Actually, SPACE was a several million dollars above the $220 (though under $300)... Believe it or not, it's the most expensive theme park attraction built to date, and not nearly the draw it was thought to be during conception.

The approximate price someone gave for Tower of Terror is actually quite close to the actual - though just a million or two above.

Thing to understand here - you CANNOT go by what Disney publically says the cost of an attraction is, because anything that cost a lot of money is always called "$100 million" -- regaurdless of how many tens of millions above that number the actual cost was.

Thats why I said disclosed costs.

Which cost are you talking for ToT? The $175m? Or the $75m? 75 I can see as possible, but $175 I don't know. If you're including the construction of the street and everything with it, then I suppose so ...
 

animal_king1990

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Actually, I'm certain that Expedition Everest will cost $100 million to build because that's what's listed under cost to build the "coaster" in all the sites. Not one site says $75 million. Besides, the cost to remove land and build pathways is not included in a ride's cost.
 

CTXRover

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animal_king1990 said:
Besides, the cost to remove land and build pathways is not included in a ride's cost.

How do you know that? ;) That is why I said above to be cognizant of what is actually being included when someone says a ride costs this or that. At the very least, the money spent to grade the land would be included in the price tag of the ride...as would probably the cost of building the queue buildings and probably the walkways to get there.
 

CTXRover

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Thrawn said:
It used an existing ride system, didn't do anything "revolutionary", and for the most part used an existing building.

Were you talking about TT? Out of curiosity, where did they or anyone else ever use a ride system similar to that used on TT? As far as I knew, it was one of a kind when it was first built, only to be re-used for JTTCOE at DisneySea many years later...hence all the problems with it. The research and development to design the ride vehicles that practially power and control themselves speed-wise were costly, without including the cost of all the subsequent re-dos after initial tests revealed more problems than they predicted.
 

animal_king1990

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CTXRover said:
How do you know that? ;) That is why I said above to be cognizant of what is actually being included when someone says a ride costs this or that. At the very least, the money spent to grade the land would be included in the price tag of the ride...as would probably the cost of building the queue buildings and probably the walkways to get there.

So if the money spent to grade the land would be included in the price tag of the ride, people should not say E.E costs $75 million, they should just go with $100 million period since it's included in the price and that is part of the ride also right? That would mean $100 million is the "offcial" price for E.E
 

CTXRover

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animal_king1990 said:
So if the money spent to grade the land would be included in the price tag of the ride, people should not say E.E costs $75 million, they should just go with $100 million period since it's included in the price and that is part of the ride also right? That would mean $100 million is the "offcial" price for E.E

I think I can honestly say nobody knows the pricetag for sure. But, yes, I would agree that it is probably reasonable to assume the entire Everest project from conception to design to everything involved in its construction from the ground up and all surrounding new areas will cost the company close to $100 million. As to the cost of building just the mountain structure itself, I don't believe anyone knows for sure.
 

speck76

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Thrawn said:
I can't see ToT costing $75m, because freefall rides don't cost that much. I could see $50m, but thats being generous and giving about $20-25m to theming.

At the same time, rollercoasters are cheap too......a top-notch B&M coaster is only around $12-15million.....

The mountain for EE is no more complex than the tower for TOT

Considering ToT is 11 years old, if it cost $50million back then (which I think is low) it would cost about $64million today....but that is just standard inflation....true costs would be much greater.
 

jaredliu

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100 millions is a lot. The price tag that high is when they have to develop some new ride system such as EMV(for indy) or Mission: Space. Everything else for indy except ride system is rather cheap. (think about the fake skeleton painting),
 

Craig & Lisa

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From what I have read on this post, no one has taken into consideration inflation and other aspects of how much things cost. So if someone good with numbers can figure it out what some may think is alot of money now, may, percentage wise may be very cheap by today's standards. An example would be what would take 100 million today percentage wise may only be 20% compared to something say 10 years ago that cost 70 million was 35%. So the question is what was the most expensive attraction Disney has made, you may need to look at the percentage rather than the money, or consider both. Just a thought.:animwink:
 

DisneyFreak1228

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Thrawn said:
I don't think ToT was that expensive. Freefall rides aren't.
Tower is actually one of the most expensive attractions Disney's ever done. And it has NOTHING to do with the ride system. Think Lobby. Most of the pieces in there are genuine antiques dating back centuries. Only a few of those pieces are replicas and items made for Tower (and I'm talking like 5 pieces)
 

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