Most expensive ride built at WDW.

CTXRover

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Laura22 said:
Wow I'm very surprised to Mission:Space is the most expensive! What about it cost so much?

Probably the fact they had to design the ride system (with ETC) completely from scratch. True, there are centrifuge systems out there, but I imagine it was probably a real challenge to create a ride system that could hold 10 large cabins and spin them as fast as they do on MS, and still have the ability to have pitch and roll movements and have the ability to repeat that ride cycle every 5 minutes for 12 hrs a day, every day. Most of the cost was in the development and then creating 40 highly detailed "pods" that are in and of themselves complete and independent show systems. Why it would cost more than other original ride designs though (like the EMV, etc.) is beyond me.
 

Lynx04

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That is the one thing I love about Disney. While Six Flags and Cedar Point go out and drop 12 to 15 million on a coaster that maybe the fastest, tallest, or steepest. You see Disney spend 75 to 100 million on attractions. Maybe a 5th of the cost is for the actual ride system and the rest is for the themeing.

I am surprised that other parks have never caught on to this. The longevity of an attractions does not lie in the records it holds in height or speed. It lies in the story it creates. After all records are always broken with in a couple years or so, and then the attractions become a gimmick. While I certainly love going on Kingda Ka, TTD and other wild rides, they seem to lose the enjoyment after a certain rides.

I see the future of coasters are hybrids like the Mummy. Cause when it comes down TTD and KK are the same P O O P in a different box.

rant over
 

WDWizard626

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:lookaroun This is getting off topic! But anyway, ToT in DCA looks nicer but ToT in MGM looks more like an abandoned hotel. So I like MGMs exterior better. :D
See for yourself:
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Tower of Terror- MGM
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Tower of Terror- DCA

:animwink: But both towers are unique. For example, California's tower has some great touches that MGM dose not have, like for example better sound effects, you can see the ghosts clearer, and I like the effect that makes you feel like you are going into the twilight zone. But MGM has a better exterior and better lobby.

:rolleyes:Anyway, getting back on topic. I belive that Test Track or Mission Space are most expensive.
 

Laura

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Premium Member
CTXRover said:
Probably the fact they had to design the ride system (with ETC) completely from scratch. True, there are centrifuge systems out there, but I imagine it was probably a real challenge to create a ride system that could hold 10 large cabins and spin them as fast as they do on MS, and still have the ability to have pitch and roll movements and have the ability to repeat that ride cycle every 5 minutes for 12 hrs a day, every day. Most of the cost was in the development and then creating 40 highly detailed "pods" that are in and of themselves complete and independent show systems. Why it would cost more than other original ride designs though (like the EMV, etc.) is beyond me.

Interesting. I've ridden the ride many times but really don't know much about how it works. I just figured it was kind of like a "star tours" system except a bunch of them all hooked together and spinning. :lol:
 

CTXRover

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WDWizard626 said:
[This is getting off topic! But anyway, ToT in DCA looks nicer but ToT in MGM looks more like an abandoned hotel. So I like MGMs exterior better.

Sorry to keep off topic, but you know the one thing I have to give DCA's exterior credit for is that it is more accurate. Where the lightening strike was, it left behind what really appears to be interior hallways of the hotel. They also fixed the problem with the HTH sign. On MGM's the sign is technically placed so that it would have been behind the elevator towers when they were hit. On DCA's tower, the sign has been placed well above where the towers would have been. However, a HUGE lapse in detail is the fact that the interior is really wrong. Because you enter DCA's hotel from the front and not the side like at MGM, the broken elevator doors inside the lobby are actually perpendicular to where the outside shafts would have been. In other words, there is no way for them to line up...oops ;)
 

animal_king1990

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Thrawn said:
I don't normally use "sites" to get information like this. I use Disney's own confidential financing information.

And the cost to build an attraction does include any nearby improvement work. Fact.

If it's confidential, then how would u know? Can I see at least one quote from Disney that says the cost for E.E is $75 million?
 

Madison

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CTXRover said:
They also fixed the problem with the HTH sign. On MGM's the sign is technically placed so that it would have been behind the elevator towers when they were hit. On DCA's tower, the sign has been placed well above where the towers would have been.

In all the years I've been talking with people about this attraction, this is the only time I've encountered someone who also noted that the placement of the "Hollywood Tower Hotel" marquee makes *no sense*. You're my hero :) The weird marquee placement drives me crazy -- probably a bit more than it should, I admit.
 

PlaneJane

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animal_king1990 said:
If it's confidential, then how would u know? Can I see at least one quote from Disney that says the cost for E.E is $75 million?

Thrawn can't show you, it's confidential. But, I bet he would have a better comeback than me.
 

Thrawn

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animal_king1990 said:
If it's confidential, then how would u know? Can I see at least one quote from Disney that says the cost for E.E is $75 million?

Sigh. I already explained this, in this very thread. As a minority shareholder, I have access to this information. As I only bought enough shares to qualify as a minority owner in 2003, I don't have the financials for years previous to fiscal 2002.

Lets just put it this way: To you, it doesn't matter if it costs $100m or $75m. But to me, it does. Thats why I have the information. If you owned a minority stake in a company, you would get the financials as well.

I've already given out more information than I probably should have, but since its only ballpark quotes I can't really get in trouble for it with the SEC. Once I start posting financials, I'll be getting indicted in days.
 

WDWizard626

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CTXRover said:
Sorry to keep off topic, but you know the one thing I have to give DCA's exterior credit for is that it is more accurate. Where the lightening strike was, it left behind what really appears to be interior hallways of the hotel. They also fixed the problem with the HTH sign. On MGM's the sign is technically placed so that it would have been behind the elevator towers when they were hit. On DCA's tower, the sign has been placed well above where the towers would have been. However, a HUGE lapse in detail is the fact that the interior is really wrong. Because you enter DCA's hotel from the front and not the side like at MGM, the broken elevator doors inside the lobby are actually perpendicular to where the outside shafts would have been. In other words, there is no way for them to line up...oops ;)




When ya think about it, you are right. I guess DCAs looks more like it was truly struck by lightning. But so dose MGMs. And the architecture of DCAs is different than MGMs version. I am anxious to see how the Tokyo and paris versions will come out.
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sleepybear

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Thrawn said:
I'd agree that the lobby did add to the cost, but if its more than $5m total they got seriously ripped off, because people simply don't pay that much attention to it.

A bit off topic, but he's right on that point. I don't think people even give the lobby a second glance on their way inside. Which is a huge shame. Carry on with the regularly schedule argument.
 

stingrock23

Active Member
I bet Splash Mountain is one of the top 5 expensive Disney rides ever built. I would think at least 100 million, for having the flume, the mountain, and all the scenes, not to mention the queue.
 

animal_king1990

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Original Poster
stingrock23 said:
I bet Splash Mountain is one of the top 5 expensive Disney rides ever built. I would think at least 100 million, for having the flume, the mountain, and all the scenes, not to mention the queue.

Actually flume rides only cost about a million dollars. The theming for Splash Mountain would have only costed around $20 million at most.
 

Montu

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Thrawn said:
Thats why I said disclosed costs.

Which cost are you talking for ToT? The $175m? Or the $75m? 75 I can see as possible, but $175 I don't know. If you're including the construction of the street and everything with it, then I suppose so ...


$175 - though it's a few million less than that.
 

jmicro59

Member
Thrawn said:
I don't have a link. I get more detailed company information because I am considered a minority shareholder. (Which basically means I own enough shares to actually be contacted by a WDC rep when they are going to have shareholder votes - Please don't ask how many shares that is.)

However, if you take a look in the annual report for the spending on parks, you can get reasonable estimates of expenditures on new attractions.

Don't worry I won't tell anybody that it's only ONE share.
 

jmicro59

Member
Thrawn said:
I don't have a link. I get more detailed company information because I am considered a minority shareholder. (Which basically means I own enough shares to actually be contacted by a WDC rep when they are going to have shareholder votes - Please don't ask how many shares that is.)

However, if you take a look in the annual report for the spending on parks, you can get reasonable estimates of expenditures on new attractions.

Did you get the free toaster with that "minority shareholder" purchase?
 

Rayray

New Member
Stop beating up on Thrawn. He is probably right if he is a shareholder. SEC, public disclosure, yadayadayada. Disney is obligated to share thier expenses with shareholders.
 

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