Monsters, Inc. Hollywood Studios rumor

[alphac2005]

He does love Disneyland. That's why he contributes heavily to MiceChat. It's not that he dislikes WDW. The man used the same words when Disneyland was in shambles back in the 90s and early 00s. He talked bad about the Disneyland suits then the way he talks about the WDW suits now. I believe his wording for WDW is quite appropriate right now. The place needs help and could use a person like Al Lutz to tell the truth and not really care about how the so-called fans feel. That's what helps get things done. That, media coverage, new people and different attitudes. That's what has been helping Disneyland.

Al Lutz was relentless on the Pressler era crew and rightfully so. His digs here and there at WDW are nothing compared to the butchering of the crew that ran Anaheim at the time. He spoke the truth, got things stirred up with the SoCal media and things were accomplished. It's not like rebirth of the property from the Pressler era was because of Al Lutz, but his voice certainly helped. You're so right, Orlando needs someone just like him, and they've needed it since the time he rallied against Anaheim.

 

[alphac2005]

If your 3-year old can ride Star Tours, he can ride ToT. Both are 40".

Let me guess, you don't have kids? A 3 year old isn't riding ToT.

@MickeyMind, the lack of any rides for kids* outside of Midway Mania and The Great Movie Ride is completely laughable. And, I agree, the Alien scene, it generally scares the ____ out of small kids.

* - The lack of any rides that aren't fast moving for anyone of any age, not just kids. The Studios is still a half day park, AK is a half day park to many, and Epcot, well, it has been stripped of being EPCOT, and let us not forget the Magic Kingdom should be better known as the Toddler Kingdom complete with endless strollers because the parents are too darn lazy to have their children walk. And yes, I have kids. My kids walk. Eight year old kids don't need a ride around the park, let alone the fact that they don't fit in the strollers to begin with. Stop rant. Must stop. Ugh.

 

[Californian Elitist]

Al Lutz was relentless on the Pressler era crew and rightfully so. His digs here and there at WDW are nothing compared to the butchering of the crew that ran Anaheim at the time. He spoke the truth, got things stirred up with the SoCal media and things were accomplished. It's not like rebirth of the property from the Pressler era was because of Al Lutz, but his voice certainly helped. You're so right, Orlando needs someone just like him, and they've needed it since the time he rallied against Anaheim.

Right. I would argue things were even worse in Anaheim than Orlando right now (people were dying). WDW is huge but I don't think the problems are as bad as the problems in Anaheim years ago. Things can change and will change for WDW. It's really only a matter of time.

 

[alphac2005]

Right. I would argue things were even worse in Anaheim than Orlando right now (people were dying). WDW is huge but I don't think the problems are as bad as the problems in Anaheim years ago. Things can change and will change for WDW. It's really only a matter of time.

As a complete mess that Orlando is right now, I think you're totally right. The peeling paint and just filth that had occurred in Anaheim was something. While they let attractions break down to being complete embarrassments in Orlando, they end up doing large refurbs and bring them back up to speed for at least some time. While that's complete non-sense and pathetic is its own right, they weren't even going so far to do that back then in Anaheim.

 

[Funmeister]

Right. I would argue things were even worse in Anaheim than Orlando right now (people were dying). WDW is huge but I don't think the problems are as bad as the problems in Anaheim years ago. Things can change and will change for WDW. It's really only a matter of time.

Not trying to debate...agree with your post. Deaths are happening at WDW. Preventable deaths just like the ones that happened at DLR. Monorail, they have had quite a few accidents and deaths involving buses over the past couple of years. I remember somewhere that part of the blame for the bus accidents were overworked to the point where they changed company policy on how many hours you can work during a bus shift including hours between shifts? Disney Transport has had many black eyes for quite a few years. I know they brought Sam in and he wants to automate the trains and better utilize road transportation, but I am not sure that is the total solution. At some point the resort will have to expand its transportation offerings...you cannot keep widening roads year after year.

 

[disneyeater]

Let me guess, you don't have kids? A 3 year old isn't riding ToT.

@MickeyMind, the lack of any rides for kids* outside of Midway Mania and The Great Movie Ride is completely laughable. And, I agree, the Alien scene, it generally scares the ____ out of small kids.

* - The lack of any rides that aren't fast moving for anyone of any age, not just kids. The Studios is still a half day park, AK is a half day park to many, and Epcot, well, it has been stripped of being EPCOT, and let us not forget the Magic Kingdom should be better known as the Toddler Kingdom complete with endless strollers because the parents are too darn lazy to have their children walk. And yes, I have kids. My kids walk. Eight year old kids don't need a ride around the park, let alone the fact that they don't fit in the strollers to begin with. Stop rant. Must stop. Ugh.

Taking this thread directly off track, none of the 4 main parks in WDW are half day parks. The only way they are half day is if you choose to skip some of the things that don't interest you.

When most people decide that they can skip many of the things at AK and DHS, it is a problem and TDO needs to do something about that, but you can't say it is just a half day park.

 

[Rob562]

Not trying to debate...agree with your post. Deaths are happening at WDW. Preventable deaths just like the ones that happened at DLR. Monorail, they have had quite a few accidents and deaths involving buses over the past couple of years. I remember somewhere that part of the blame for the bus accidents were overworked to the point where they changed company policy on how many hours you can work during a bus shift including hours between shifts? Disney Transport has had many black eyes for quite a few years. I know they brought Sam in and he wants to automate the trains and better utilize road transportation, but I am not sure that is the total solution. At some point the resort will have to expand its transportation offerings...you cannot keep widening roads year after year.

I'm not aware of any bus incidents at WDW where the driver was at-fault (or that driver overworked/exhaustion was the cause). The only two incidents involving death that I can recall were the Fort Wilderness bike accident and a collision on World Drive.

The Fort Wilderness incident was because a kid on a bike rode/fell into the side of the moving bus. Nothing the driver could've done to prevent that.

And there was a fatality on World Drive near the water bridge where a CM driving their own car crossed the line and collided head-on with a bus.

-Rob

 

[Tink0102]

Every time I watch that scene I think it would be a cool ride! I so hope they do this!

 

[JungleTrekFan]

I know they brought Sam in and he wants to automate the trains and better utilize road transportation, but I am not sure that is the total solution. At some point the resort will have to expand its transportation offerings...you cannot keep widening roads year after year.

I think Sam will eventually push for alternative transportation. He has been doing pretty well with road infrastructure and adding different safety features in important areas. Sam is also really pushing for efficiency, with different road projects and the automation of monorails. I think he is on the right track.

I personally cant wait for D23 because they really do need to announce something for WDW.

 

[Funmeister]

I'm not aware of any bus incidents at WDW where the driver was at-fault (or that driver overworked/exhaustion was the cause). The only two incidents involving death that I can recall were the Fort Wilderness bike accident and a collision on World Drive.

The Fort Wilderness incident was because a kid on a bike rode/fell into the side of the moving bus. Nothing the driver could've done to prevent that.

And there was a fatality on World Drive near the water bridge where a CM driving their own car crossed the line and collided head-on with a bus.

-Rob

I know of two separate bus accidents involving guests in front of the Contemporary within the last year and a half. There were no deaths in either of those accidents however i am pretty sure that all of these incidents did lead to a policy change.

A lot of people mention how much it would cost to expand the monorail and maint costs for 12 trains...but...bus maint is eating them up financially. Not only in parts and labor but fuel alone is what keeps a monorail expansion / light rail / alternative transportation somewhat on life support.

 

[RSoxNo1]

They cloned Mermaid and Toy Story Mania and these weren't big successes.

Toy Story Mania has to be considered a success, it has it's detractors, but it is a wildly popular ride. With TSM and Star Tours, the clones were built simultaneously, but with Mermaid there was a year and a half gap, which is a problem. This is what I fear being a problem for Carsland (assuming it's cloned in Florida).

I would much prefer a cloned Monster's Inc Coaster and a new concept for DHS instead of just a cloned Carsland.

 

[GLaDOS]

Toy Story Mania has to be considered a success, it has it's detractors, but it is a wildly popular ride. With TSM and Star Tours, the clones were built simultaneously, but with Mermaid there was a year and a half gap, which is a problem. This is what I fear being a problem for Carsland (assuming it's cloned in Florida).

I would much prefer a cloned Monster's Inc Coaster and a new concept for DHS instead of just a cloned Carsland.

Agreed, though I'd prefer it all to be new concepts. Most Pixar properties have the ability to generate the response Cars Land has, IMO.

 

[wdwmagic]

Toy Story Mania has to be considered a success, it has it's detractors, but it is a wildly popular ride. With TSM and Star Tours, the clones were built simultaneously, but with Mermaid there was a year and a half gap, which is a problem. This is what I fear being a problem for Carsland (assuming it's cloned in Florida).

Large gaps between the clones are a big problem. The property to get the attraction second doesn't really seem to have the newness factor - everyone has seen what its about either in person or online, and then it loses the impact. This was certainly the case with Mermaid, and all the ToTs. An exception though would seem to be Soarin, which has been vastly more popular in WDW after being introduced at DCA first.

 

[GLaDOS]

Large gaps between the clones are a big problem. The property to get the attraction second doesn't really seem to have the newness factor - everyone has seen what its about either in person or online, and then it loses the impact. This was certainly the case with Mermaid, and all the ToTs. An exception though would seem to be Soarin, which has been vastly more popular in WDW after being introduced at DCA first.

Good point about Soarin, though I have to wonder if that's a by product of it being in EPCOT, a park that really doesn't have many rides to be excited about to begin with.

 

[RSoxNo1]

Large gaps between the clones are a big problem. The property to get the attraction second doesn't really seem to have the newness factor - everyone has seen what its about either in person or online, and then it loses the impact. This was certainly the case with Mermaid, and all the ToTs. An exception though would seem to be Soarin, which has been vastly more popular in WDW after being introduced at DCA first.

That could be a function of it being a much needed high demand family attraction in Epcot.

 

[Belowthesurface]

If you are still hoping for Monster's... the near term will make you unhappy.

 

[Sped2424]

Right. I would argue things were even worse in Anaheim than Orlando right now (people were dying). WDW is huge but I don't think the problems are as bad as the problems in Anaheim years ago. Things can change and will change for WDW. It's really only a matter of time.

Thats what im saying and what a lot of people have a hard time believing, that things are eventually going to improve and with the change in management and all this talk of possible expansions I can only see things getting better!

 

[Californian Elitist]

I have two theories as to why Soarin' Over California isn't as popular...

Soarin' Over California is an opening day attraction for DCA. It was one of the very few good rides at DCA, and so lines were always long. Some people would ride Soarin' Over California multiple times, then head on over to Disneyland. I did that many times, as that ride, Mullholland Madness (now known as Goofy's Sky School) and maybe two other rides were the only ones I actually liked at DCA. Riding one ride multiple times in a boring park gets old. DCA isn't boring anymore, but what's done is done for Soarin' Over California.

My other theory is we Californians can visit these destinations anytime we want, since we live in California. It's not that exciting to see Los Angeles in the video when I live smack dab in the middle of Los Angeles. Same goes for some of the other places in the video.

 

[Captain Neo]

Monsters is going to be Disneyland exclusive for the time being

 

[Californian Elitist]

Monsters is going to be Disneyland exclusive for the time being

Monsters in California is very much a rumor. Nothing's been confirmed.