Rhinocerous
Premium Member
LOOK AT YOU NOW!I am a Muppetvision crybaby.
LOOK AT YOU NOW!I am a Muppetvision crybaby.
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Thank you for saying “In my opinion”. Helps people to not combat your perspective.You bring us hope - THANK YOU!!
EDIT - Villains land in 5 years FROM NOW???? What's that song, "To dream the impossible dream"
In my opinion, Villains is AT LEAST 10 years away..
Agreed…. I was being extremely sarcastic haha.In my opinion, Villains is AT LEAST 10 years away..
I would LOVE to be wrong! But I have no faith in TWDC no more.Thank you for saying “In my opinion”. Helps people to not combat your perspective.
True, they can build fast and they can build slow, it’s a matter of what they want to do. Right now I think they want to build fas but will that perspective stay true for 5 years.I would LOVE to be wrong! But I have no faith in TWDC no more.
Personally, I’m setting my expectations for Villains Opening to 2030/2031. I feel like they probably have actual plans for 2029 or so for Villains, and while I definitely expect delays, I don’t think they will be pushed that far back to be 5+ years away. Though maybe I am being overly optimistic.You bring us hope - THANK YOU!!
EDIT - Villains land in 5 years FROM NOW???? What's that song, "To dream the impossible dream"
In my opinion, Villains is AT LEAST 10 years away..
Pandora took like 7 years?Personally, I’m setting my expectations for Villains Opening to 2030/2031. I feel like they probably have actual plans for 2029 or so for Villains, and while I definitely expect delays, I don’t think they will be pushed that far back to be 5+ years away. Though maybe I am being overly optimistic.
Pandora was six years (agreement was in 2011) , and I don’t think Galaxy’s Edge was longer than that. Even if we take D23 2024 as Day 1 (and since Villains was Blue Sky in 2022, I think we’re at least not at Day 1), I don’t think expecting it to take six or seven years is that optimistic. Meanwhile, assuming over a decade (significantly longer than either Pandora or Galaxy’s Edge as a minimum) feel a little pessimistic. I can see 2034 as a pessimist option, but that feels overly far for a earliest guess.Pandora took like 7 years?
How long did Galaxy's Edge take?
The EPCOT destruction does not count because of COVID.
Pandora - Jan ‘14 to May’17Pandora took like 7 years?
How long did Galaxy's Edge take?
The EPCOT destruction does not count because of COVID.
Blame Muppets Most Wanted for torpedoing the franchise. Disney hasn't had any idea what to do with the Muppets since then (though I personally liked the ABC series and Muppets Haunted Mansion).Forgive a little soapboxing, but I think a lot of this worry/hurt comes from the fact that Disney has all but given up on the Muppets. This is the second longest drought without a Muppet movie and there has been no major TV special or theme park project to back them up. Muppet Haunted Mansion & Mayhem were both great but barely anyone knew about their existence. California's MuppetVision disappeared in 2014, there is barely any merch produced by Disney themselves, and as mentioned before they can't even be bothered to get Muppets Take Manhattan on Disney Plus. Little things like third-party produced action figures & board games and Waldos getting replaced by projections are the biggest news we Muppet fans have. The fact that operations are so keen to cut entertainment these days and additions have been extremely few and far between (barring next year's Electrical Parade!!) means a live show is all but unthinkable.
Nah, they'll probably just retheme PizzeRizzo to Roz's Pizza That You Need To File Paperwork To Order or something like that.Anyone looking for a positive? If the Muppets leave, so will quite possibly the worst pizza in all of WDW.
To be fair to the prior poster, those timeframes are based on construction start dates, and we don’t have a concrete construction start time for Villains. I definitely agree a decade is overly pessimistic, but I do feel those specific timeframes only mean so much until we have confirmation of a specific construction timetable.Pandora - Jan ‘14 to May’17
Galaxy’s Edge - Apr’16 to Aug’19
You have (bad) selective memory. Did they announce Pandora well in advance of construction with no plans even started, yes. That’s is not the case here.
They do not actually have a ten year plan, and even when they do start looking that way it’s never what was first tossed around.Missed a few days here due to work, but has anyone discuss that TWDC has a "10 year plan" and all we've seen is the next 5 years? Monsters may go here because it's saving the space in Animation Courtyard for the back half of the 10 years of building?
I don't think this is the end all be all of turbocharged parks for a decade.
They have permits for some early site work. They don’t have building permits and those drawings are likely not anywhere near ready.Cars is happening… they already have permits filed… the only land I am iffy about is Villans land…. But I suspect that is a goal with Universals Monsters on the prowl
If Villains opens within five years, I'll personally buy you a drink and slip you a recipe from Horizons Bar and Grill.Never!!! I’ll meet you at villains land in 5 years! Haha.
At an actual ride/show/attracction? Because if not, why wpuld that be a good consoling ? Not to be a jerk but what makes you confident?If Villains opens within five years, I'll personally buy you a drink and slip you a recipe from Horizons Bar and Grill.
While we're having a run on the banks behind the scenes, I feel confident in saying, even if Muppetvision kicks the bucket, that lovable green frog will remain at WDW. Just don't ask me to answer how he will. Because I don't know!
This is why I say the biggest (worst) change at Walt Disney World isn’t some attraction closing or opening, or some offering being changed, it was the business model shifts that occurred in the 90s. The result has been all sort of broken incentive structures where guest experience is not on a pedestal and can even be deliberately hurt. The goal really isn’t to make guests happy but to make them just the right amount of miserable.Well then Vahle is the idiot. You would think he would have a vested interest in making the park as good an experience for guests as possible to encourage repeat visits and more spend and better word of mouth. But maybe he doesn't care and thinks removing attractions in a park starved for things to do makes sense.
Everything at D23 is their Pokémon answer. If the Universal rumor mills are true, and Simpsons is leaving after the Red coaster I forgot the name of gets a redo, and Pokémon is happening in 2027-8, then Monsters, Cars, and Tropical Americas, and presumably a project at Epcot that's mors than a bar is their answer to one of the most popular, profitable IPs globally.
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