TrainsOfDisney
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There were possibilities- like with meet and greets and the live character ideas that seem to have been completely scrapped now.
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DHS Monster Inc Land Coming to Disney's Hollywood Studios
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UNCgolf
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Again, though, that's something that would have only had an effect for a small number of visitors.
I honestly don't blame Disney for cutting it/moving it to the Starcruiser. It's simply not an idea that works on that scale; it doesn't seem like a good use of funds. I'd much prefer to see them use money on something that would actually enhance the experience for most or all guests, not a small subset.
You can't really do personalized entertainment at a place that's averaging 25k+ visitors a day.
etc98
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Exactly. There are 40 or 50 thousand guests in the park a day, and to really make it feel like a real experience, you’d need multiple interactions with different characters throughout your visit. So you’re at a couple hundred thousand interactions a day. Even at a minute per interaction, you’re at probably 200,000 minutes of interaction per day. Across a 14 hour operating day, you’d need 238 performers interacting every minute of the day to achieve that.
Those numbers are obviously very exaggerated, because a) not everyone in the park would care to participate at all, and b) most people travel in groups, so the performers would be interacting with multiple people at once. But it still just doesn’t seem feasible.
Theres also the question of how do you make it feel organic? There’s not going to be 40,000 individual storylines every day, so does the performer come up to you and tell you some story or try to recruit you for some job, and then you watch them walk up to another group and tell them the same thing?
When you stand in line for your blue milk, do you listen while the person at the register asks person after person “Hey, aren’t you the one who crashed the Millennium Falcon?”
lazyboy97o
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It was never going to be every guest because some would not want to participate. They did live in-park tests at Disneyland, the Adventure Trading Company and Legends of Frontierland
UNCgolf
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Of course it wouldn't be every guest -- but it would likely be enough to water down the experience enough that it's just not worth doing.
Again, I'd much rather see that money spent on something that would enhance the experience for a larger group of guests. Like, you know, actually building the TS restaurant they were supposed to build.
I mean, I'm certainly not opposed to the idea, and I'd happily see Disney do stuff like this if they were willing to throw money at the parks. I just don't think it would end up being impressive or memorable regardless; seems like one of those things that sounds great in theory but doesn't work in practice.
TrainsOfDisney
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I think more than a “small amount of visitors” meet the characters.
Dranth
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The board agreed with Iger but I am not sure where you are going with this.
Shareholders have the final say on who is on the board, CEO, if compensation packages get approved, vote on resolutions, etc. If they don't want you on the board or as CEO, you are done. Eisner is a great example of this. He got booted because shareholders initiated a proxy fight and voted to remove him.
UNCgolf
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That's not what I said. What percentage of the visitors who meet the characters would have any kind of especially memorable experience based on stuff they did in the land? Hardly any. It's not like people get to have a 5-10 minute chat.
Again, in an ideal world with infinite budgets, absolutely do this. Even if it only actually does anything for maybe 5% of daily guests, that's still a nice positive. But they don't have unlimited budgets, and there are better ways to spend the money to enhance the experience for a larger percentage of guests. The originally planned roaming droids (or even just droids moving around in places where guests can't touch them) would be better, for example.
TrainsOfDisney
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Oh…. I didn’t realize you were talking about specific things the technology could do… I was thinking of the technology in general.
UNCgolf
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Yeah, I think the tech behind what they originally planned is there. I don't see an issue with it from a tech standpoint.
I just think on the scale involved, it wouldn't really lead to great experiences for guests. Maybe a few scattered here and there, but not something that would move the needle for most visitors.
lazyboy97o
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After monetization via Galactic Starcruiser, I think the creep factor might have had more to do with not incorporating the interactivity more than scaling issues. Story Engine is an impressive bit of technology.
People don’t like it when someone they don’t know knows something about them, especially their recent movements. More so when it is about their children. Cast Members knowing about guest activities and plans was supposed to be a big part of Next Gen. There was some very limited testing of this and people did not like it.
People don’t like it when someone they don’t know knows something about them, especially their recent movements. More so when it is about their children. Cast Members knowing about guest activities and plans was supposed to be a big part of Next Gen. There was some very limited testing of this and people did not like it.
TrainsOfDisney
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I think we are just talking over each other and I’ve been accused of “arguing with myself” by another member so I’m out. Haha.
Monsters Inc. Land Updates: New Permit, and Fresh Paint on Old Structure at Disney's Hollywood Studios
Monsters Inc. Land Updates: New Permit, and Fresh Paint on Old Structure at Disney's Hollywood Studios
Monsters Inc. Land Updates: New Permit, and Fresh Paint on Old Structure at Disney's Hollywood Studios
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GoofGoof
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This is a true mystery. Now that the whole area will be closed by June why would they spend any money on this structure? I can’t imagine there would be any way to access it once the Muppet area shuts down. Maybe they plan to use it for construction staging area or something. It’s also right in the middle of where I think the Door Coaster building would start.Monsters Inc. Land Updates: New Permit, and Fresh Paint on Old Structure at Disney's Hollywood Studios
Monsters Inc. Land Updates: New Permit, and Fresh Paint on Old Structure at Disney's Hollywood Studios
Monsters Inc. Land Updates: New Permit, and Fresh Paint on Old Structure at Disney's Hollywood Studios
rle4lunch
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Maybe they'll paint it 'go away' blue...?
lazyboy97o
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This assumes the work was done for the Monstropolis project. It wouldn’t be the first time local work has been quickly undone by a new project.
Gremlin Gus
Member
Maybe it could be used for testing paint color or they're going to reuse it somehow?
LSLS
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I will say, I understand why they don't want Monsters in AC. That is a large area, and it is wasted with a small land like Monsters. Maybe they could expand it if it went there, but I don't think they had any desire to announce another major land after they already committed to several other large lands, so expanding it wasn't in the cards either. I think the real issue is that they committed to a large expansion at the one park that is not desperate for it (despite how cool Villains could be). The Villains-level land needed to go in AC, and Monsters and Villains announced 3-4 years later. But, we are where we are now. I am beyond skeptical that anything is going into AC in the next 10 years, and that is where my issue with this really lies.
eddie104
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Didn’t insiders state something else is planned for AC ?
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