News Monster Inc Land Coming to Disney's Hollywood Studios

The Leader of the Club

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Tokyo monsters ride system pitch: theme it to a muppet studio tour and stick it where Indy is?
I’d love to see the ride system in WDW, but I’d hate to see the same IP in different areas of the same park. AGAIN.
I also don’t know that “Ride & Go Seek” really fits the Muppets vibe. I’d much rather see it with something like Zootopia where there’s a fun world to explore.
 

Blobbles

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I’d love to see the ride system in WDW, but I’d hate to see the same IP in different areas of the same park. AGAIN.
I also don’t know that “Ride & Go Seek” really fits the Muppets vibe. I’d much rather see it with something like Zootopia where there’s a fun world to explore.
Yeah, this idea would work better without muppets RNRC.

As for the ride system, I sometimes wonder if a straight muppets dark ride would be as popular as Disney would like it to be with todays guests, and would be a ride people would seek out, as much as i would love great muppet movie ride to happen. Ride and go seek i imagined because its a sorta ride where you “activate” gags with your flashlight, so there could be potential with that, and it’d def be popular.

Trying to find a ground up ride concept for the muppets that most guests would like and line up for is kinda tough imo.
 

Brer Panther

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Tokyo monsters ride system pitch: theme it to a muppet studio tour and stick it where Indy is?
I've suggested this before, but it could work well for the Muppets: let's say the plot is that the Muppets are performing at the Hollywood Bowl or something, but everyone's out doing their own thing and the show's in five minutes. Kermit and Fozzie enlist our help to find everyone, and we get aboard our vehicles, armed with flashlights, and search Hollywood for them. Potential for a lot of fun gags and scenes.

Or, as @The Leader of the Club suggested, it could make a fun Zootopia ride. Zootopia Flashlight Tag or something.
 

Blobbles

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I've suggested this before, but it could work well for the Muppets: let's say the plot is that the Muppets are performing at the Hollywood Bowl or something, but everyone's out doing their own thing and the show's in five minutes. Kermit and Fozzie enlist our help to find everyone, and we get aboard our vehicles, armed with flashlights, and search Hollywood for them. Potential for a lot of fun gags and scenes.

Or, as @The Leader of the Club suggested, it could make a fun Zootopia ride. Zootopia Flashlight Tag or something.
I mean the real issue is muppets are kinda locked behind sunset with RNRC, and even after villains show is done, Sunset showcase does not have enough space around it to build a whole dark ride. And i dont think they’d expand left of RNRC in the backstage for the muppets.
Unless a hypothetical second muppets ride is at a different park at dhs, and they aren’t really next to eachother.
 

Nickm2022

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Sorry if this has been covered already...tried searching...does anyone know how this land will attach to current Pixar Place? Anyone savvy enough to draw up a map?
Confused, if you mean the old Toy Story Mania entrance this is nowhere near that. That said in the future they could always connect Galaxy's edge through there but there's just not enough incentive to do so
 

GoofGoof

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Sorry if this has been covered already...tried searching...does anyone know how this land will attach to current Pixar area/Toy Story Land? Or will it not?
The land will connect the same as Muppets Courtyard today. The entrance will be from Grand Avenue. If you exit Monsters and go left you hit the tunnel into SWGE, if you exit Monsters and go right you will hit the intersection with Baseline Tap House on your left (in front of Sci-fi) and Star Tours on your right. The connection to Pixar Place was closed off when they built SWGE and Toy Story Land.

This:
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Will go where the red box is today. The Door Coaster is the only thing added beyond the current land. Not sure how far back into the parking lot. They have some space back there:
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Cmdr_Crimson

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I think the top grossing franchises that Disney owns, but isn't currently using in the parks are:
  • Ice Age (6.42 billion)
  • The Simpsons (4.9 billion) [Don't have the rights at the moment]
  • Inside out (2.61 billion)
  • The Incredibles (2.37 billion)
  • Planet of the Apes (2.27 billion)
Zootopia is ~$1 billion, but with a sequel on the way, it will probably jump into this list.
Ice Age is being used..At Genting Skyworlds which features other lands based around the former Blue Sky studios films Epic, Rio and Robots...However, they have some pretty decent rides based around these films particularly Ice Age..
Trackless dark ride


And a Roller Coaster Themed to Scrat and his Acorn...
 

Blobbles

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I think as some of the insiders have eluded, the plan for Muppets is to integrate them into smaller attractions in various places vs having a full blown Muppets land. I don’t see a Muppets ride being added in addition to RNRC. They could have appearances in other places though. I think that’s the best we are going to get.
I’d be fine with that. I’ve seen those allusions, and I hope at least one happens. I don’t think they’ll ever get a true ground up attraction again, which is a shame, but that’s life. I think multiple smaller locations is kinda smart on the imagineers part, as that probably ensures that the muppets will at least be around somewhere at wdw for a good while. And I would totally be down for multiple muppet rides. Although I do kinda have a gut feeling on where at least one of the other ones could go (no inside info, don’t get this twisted as a hint) and I don’t think many people here will be happy about it.
 

GoofGoof

Premium Member
I’d be fine with that. I’ve seen those allusions, and I hope at least one happens. I don’t think they’ll ever get a true ground up attraction again, which is a shame, but that’s life. I think multiple smaller locations is kinda smart on the imagineers part, as that probably ensures that the muppets will at least be around somewhere at wdw for a good while. And I would totally be down for multiple muppet rides. Although I do kinda have a gut feeling on where at least one of the other ones could go (no inside info, don’t get this twisted as a hint) and I don’t think many people here will be happy about it.
I think Disney has gotten too fixated on whole lands based on an IP. I guess it really started with Harry Potter down the street but ironically Universal has no problem with standalone attractions. Transformers is a fun ride. I don’t need a whole land, I don’t need to be transported to their environment. I would be perfectly fine seeing a smaller muppet attraction in any of the parks. The muppets fit in just about anywhere on a small scale.
 

JackCH

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I think Disney has gotten too fixated on whole lands based on an IP. I guess it really started with Harry Potter down the street but ironically Universal has no problem with standalone attractions. Transformers is a fun ride. I don’t need a whole land, I don’t need to be transported to their environment. I would be perfectly fine seeing a smaller muppet attraction in any of the parks. The muppets fit in just about anywhere on a small scale.
They sort of have, but not totally. Tropical Americas isn't, Cars technically isn't. Tron Wasn't. Guardians wasn't. Remy's wasn't. I know people feel that way but outside of Pandora, Star Wars, Toy Story, and Monsters, they have lots of "counter" examples. Compared to Universal it feels about the same. 4 of Epic Universe's lands are single IP areas, plus the Potter areas.

What I want them to avoid is having single attractions need a "land," like Zootopia. Just make a ride if that's a case. A land should only happen if you have enough ideas with the IP to make multiple attractions based on it. MI is right on that line lol.
 

Blobbles

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I think Disney has gotten too fixated on whole lands based on an IP. I guess it really started with Harry Potter down the street but ironically Universal has no problem with standalone attractions. Transformers is a fun ride. I don’t need a whole land, I don’t need to be transported to their environment. I would be perfectly fine seeing a smaller muppet attraction in any of the parks. The muppets fit in just about anywhere on a small scale.
I agree. They work great as a smaller scale, and as a property and nearly fit anywhere, and it’d still be In character. I wouldn’t be surprised if some older attractions are getting looked at for being muppe-fied, and honestly I hope it happens, muppets are great.

I know RNRC is happening, but I can’t help but get a gut feeling that the recent “plans” that some people have been hearing about from imagineering will lead to muppets HOP. Len Testa mentioned it by name when even talking about the possibility, i think Marni brought it up a while ago. There’s also that “third attraction in danger” thing from before Brazil d23 that Steve (site owner) brought up that we never really figured out.

The real main thing for me right now pushing me towards “it has a good chance of happening” is: they waited a long time to announce the closing of muppets, because they knew it’d be controversial. January is when the HOP usually closes for the rerfurb. It’s getting closer, and nothing has been said. The longer we go without hearing, the less good the future looks for HOP imo.

But that’s just me.
 

GoofGoof

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They sort of have, but not totally. Tropical Americas isn't, Cars technically isn't. Tron Wasn't. Guardians wasn't. Remy's wasn't. I know people feel that way but outside of Pandora, Star Wars, Toy Story, and Monsters, they have lots of "counter" examples. Compared to Universal it feels about the same. 4 of Epic Universe's lands are single IP areas, plus the Potter areas.

What I want them to avoid is having single attractions need a "land," like Zootopia. Just make a ride if that's a case. A land should only happen if you have enough ideas with the IP to make multiple attractions based on it. MI is right on that line lol.
I’m not sure how Cars isn’t but I agree on the other one off additions. I wish they did more of that. I think the Monsters Doors coaster could have probably worked fine where it’s proposed without changing the rest of the area. Keep MV3D and maybe do one of the restaurants. For years MV3D existed next to Star Tours and with a Toy Story themed pizza planet next door along with a generic italian restaurant. ToT works fine as 1930s Hollywood next to RNRC which is obviously not set in the 1930s (Steven Tyler only looks that old).
 

The Leader of the Club

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I’m not sure how Cars isn’t but I agree on the other one off additions. I wish they did more of that. I think the Monsters Doors coaster could have probably worked fine where it’s proposed without changing the rest of the area. Keep MV3D and maybe do one of the restaurants. For years MV3D existed next to Star Tours and with a Toy Story themed pizza planet next door along with a generic italian restaurant. ToT works fine as 1930s Hollywood next to RNRC which is obviously not set in the 1930s (Steven Tyler only looks that old).
Cars is being proposed as part of Frontierland, not a new Cars Land like in DCA.

I agree that losing MuppetVision for some random Monsters show just to justify calling it a “land” is short sighted. Should have just built the coaster and rethemed Melrose to Harryhausen’s. If that’s successful, then we could talk about expanding the land into Muppets. Not the other way around.
 

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