News Monster Inc Land Coming to Disney's Hollywood Studios

rle4lunch

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I get that a 3D (or 4D) movie experience isn't as unique and amazing as they once were. But I would still argue that all the ones you mentioned above are good attractions. I mean when it's over are most people smiling at being entertained or angry that it was just some stupid 3D movie?

Also, I wish they'd bring back a few more simulator rides like Star Tours and Body Wars. I think those are still a lot of fun and it's a proven ride system. Seems like putting in a few more of those around the parks could go a long way to beefing up the experience count in all the parks (looking at you World Showcase!)

I agree somewhat, but I feel that MV3D was a completely (and still is sometime) walk on ride until Disney decided to implement all the fast pass, lightning lane, ADRs, etc, that ended up building false demand signals for sub stellar attractions. Do you remember when you could walk into any restaurant (i.e. Sci Fi, Brown Derby) any time of the day and get a seat? I do... That all changed when they went to ADR's. So even the most basic TSRs starting having waitlists for mediocre fare. Same goes for the attractions that Disney continues to milk for years and years due to their cheap operating costs. They've given false demand to Figment, MV3D, and others in order to disperse park goers and charge more for LL..

anywho, hope they build 2 rides for Monsters land. Hope to see ST rethemed. Hope to see Indy change into something else when Dino is converted. Hope to see a proper villians coaster...

I can also wish in one hand in crap in the other and see which one fills up faster.
 

UNCgolf

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I agree somewhat, but I feel that MV3D was a completely (and still is sometime) walk on ride until Disney decided to implement all the fast pass, lightning lane, ADRs, etc, that ended up building false demand signals for sub stellar attractions. Do you remember when you could walk into any restaurant (i.e. Sci Fi, Brown Derby) any time of the day and get a seat? I do... That all changed when they went to ADR's. So even the most basic TSRs starting having waitlists for mediocre fare. Same goes for the attractions that Disney continues to milk for years and years due to their cheap operating costs. They've given false demand to Figment, MV3D, and others in order to disperse park goers and charge more for LL..

anywho, hope they build 2 rides for Monsters land. Hope to see ST rethemed. Hope to see Indy change into something else when Dino is converted. Hope to see a proper villians coaster...

I can also wish in one hand in crap in the other and see which one fills up faster.

They need more short wait/walk-ons, not fewer.

Taking away stuff like MV3D makes the park experience worse for everyone, even people who don't enjoy it/weren't going to see it. A park that's solely D and E ticket attractions with nothing else would be miserable.
 

rle4lunch

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They need more short wait/walk-ons, not fewer.

Taking away stuff like MV3D makes the park experience worse for everyone, even people who don't enjoy it/weren't going to see it. A park that's solely D and E ticket attractions with nothing else would be miserable.
I agree, but at least put some upgrades in these rides. And yes, I know MV3D had projector enhancements done semi recently...
 

The Leader of the Club

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I agree, but at least put some upgrades in these rides. And yes, I know MV3D had projector enhancements done semi recently...

MuppetVision is in a weird spot because you can’t really update it. It’s not like Philharmagic or Star Tours where you can add a segment. Not only would that be difficult with MV3D’s tight script, but it also would be jarring to hear characters with a different voice immediately after their original performer.
 

FigmentFan82

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MuppetVision is in a weird spot because you can’t really update it. It’s not like Philharmagic or Star Tours where you can add a segment. Not only would that be difficult with MV3D’s tight script, but it also would be jarring to hear characters with a different voice immediately after their original performer.
I do not want to hear the awful current voice of Kermit ever! There are people out there that can sound like Jim did! Heck the current guy who does Bugs Bunny is pretty great at it.
 

The Leader of the Club

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I do not want to hear the awful current voice of Kermit ever! There are people out there that can sound like Jim did! Heck the current guy who does Bugs Bunny is pretty great at it.

The problem with that is that Kermit’s performer has to be a great puppeteer on top of a good sound-alike, which severely limits the field. I personally wish they’d gotten Peter Linz (the current performer on Sesame) to do it, but I’m sure the Hensons/Muppet Studios have their reasons.
 

Nickm2022

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I am curious, would people be mad if Indy Stunt show was taken away instead of Muppets. I ask because even though it's not rumored at all, if we had to build Monsters somewhere other than AC then I'd prefer the Indy Star Tours region
 

Horizons '83

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In the Parks
No
I am curious, would people be mad if Indy Stunt show was taken away instead of Muppets. I ask because even though it's not rumored at all, if we had to build Monsters somewhere other than AC then I'd prefer the Indy Star Tours region
I wouldn't be made at the show itself, its more nostalgia for me know then anything else, but I'd be upset because that show eats a lot of people and helps spread crowds out a bit. You lose that, I'm not sure what DS would look like.
 

Casper Gutman

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Muppets is the funniest, cleverest attraction in all of WDW and it isn’t close. WDW has been losing wit at a decisive rate ever since the EPCOT classics closed decades ago, and frankly there’s very little left at the resort. If folks want to embrace coasters-in-a-box with a poorly integrated IP slapped on the front, fine. But don’t pretend something isn’t being lost when you systematically rip out every little bit of non-toddler-humor and intelligence from the park.

Honestly, the parallels between the Muppets IP and Disney parks is significant. Both built their popularity on having a bit of an edge, a wink-and-nudge jokiness directed at adults, but corporate cowardice and parental perception of them as “kids only” has watered them down or outright destroyed them.
 

Blobbles

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Disney choosing not to go ahead with the mystery muppets project and announce Muppet Vision closing while the gp is distracted with politics and theme park fans are distracted with ka is baffling
 

Brer Panther

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Heck the current guy who does Bugs Bunny is pretty great at it.
Eric Bauza? I haven't heard him do Kermit, but I have no doubt that he'd be a great Kermit.
I personally wish they’d gotten Peter Linz (the current performer on Sesame) to do it
I actually like Matt Vogel's Kermit, but I would've been really happy with Peter Linz being Kermit's new performer.
I am curious, would people be mad if Indy Stunt show was taken away instead of Muppets.
I doubt it.
 

mysto

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Muppets is the funniest, cleverest attraction in all of WDW and it isn’t close. WDW has been losing wit at a decisive rate ever since the EPCOT classics closed decades ago, and frankly there’s very little left at the resort.
I think MILF is close, even similar in tone. Another threatened attraction. I strongly agree that the loss of wit in the parks is an unacknowledged part of what's missing compared to the past. Possibly the young imagineers are just A students who google every answer without thinking, looking for the answer the professor is expecting.
 

Animaniac93-98

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Muppets is the funniest, cleverest attraction in all of WDW and it isn’t close. WDW has been losing wit at a decisive rate ever since the EPCOT classics closed decades ago, and frankly there’s very little left at the resort. If folks want to embrace coasters-in-a-box with a poorly integrated IP slapped on the front, fine. But don’t pretend something isn’t being lost when you systematically rip out every little bit of non-toddler-humor and intelligence from the park.

Marc Davis lamented the fact that there was nothing funny in Disneyland prior to his involvement with the park, and strongly disliked the pivot towards roller coasters when he retired from WED in the 70s.

He would be especially appalled with the current state of Disney theme parks. Like many who made what they were.
 

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