Monorail/Transportation Idea

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Nemesis394

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nsxdrift_89 said:
We can have a PM/LIM style transport, but it would have logistics that wouldn't be feasible. BUT, you can say this at any type of transportation idea, except buses. They all have flaws. However, buses will inevitably be much more expensive or will gridlock the resort (which mean spending money on a new transport sys. or new roads {which aren't cheap})

Consider this, Disney considers a new transportation system. The figure if they build it to the lowest builder, it wil cost 900 million to 1 billion. They weigh the options, we can follow the simple rule of economics if it is easier for people to travel from MK to MGM, then they will want to go to MGM too, and spend money on another ticket or a park hopper or a magic your way. Disney might see financial gain in the long term if they change their view of immediate return, to future return and long term investments.
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lol gridlock is when traffic cant move because its backed up in city blocks... ie GRID lock. it has to be intersection after intersection for miles for that to happen and even then. EVERY mode of transportation is subject to traffic. EVERY mode. including monorails and LIMs unless there are moving platforms like for TTA which isnt too friendly to a family with kids and strollers and bags and what not
 
Thrawn

Thrawn

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nsxdrift_89 said:
We can have a PM/LIM style transport, but it would have logistics that wouldn't be feasible. BUT, you can say this at any type of transportation idea, except buses. They all have flaws. However, buses will inevitably be much more expensive or will gridlock the resort (which mean spending money on a new transport sys. or new roads {which aren't cheap})

Consider this, Disney considers a new transportation system. The figure if they build it to the lowest builder, it wil cost 900 million to 1 billion. They weigh the options, we can follow the simple rule of economics if it is easier for people to travel from MK to MGM, then they will want to go to MGM too, and spend money on another ticket or a park hopper or a magic your way. Disney might see financial gain in the long term if they change their view of immediate return, to future return and long term investments.
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The only problem with LIM is the interaction with existing roads. If they could somehow get around that, it would probably work.

The gridlock problem has been looked at, and one of the things they are considering are bus-only roads. That might turn out to be the best solution.


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As for the subway comment, I hope you were kidding, because FL's high water table would make any subway system an underwater journey.
 
imagineer boy

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Well, this thread is completely hopeless, so in the mean time:

LETS DO THE TIME WARP AGAAAAAAAIIIIIINN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 
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nsxdrift_89

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think about it, when deman gets so high that buses (filled with passengers) are waiting to get into the park bus station for miles and you have unhappy customers that have to wait for 15-30 minutes to get off the bus and get to the park.
 
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CaptainMichael

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nsxdrift_89 said:
if it is easier for people to travel from MK to MGM, then they will want to go to MGM too, and spend money on another ticket or a park hopper or a magic your way. Disney might see financial gain in the long term if they change their view of immediate return, to future return and long term investments.
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The only easier way to travel between MK to MGM other than a bus would be a teleportation device.
 
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Nemesis394

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nsxdrift_89 said:
Think about the bus statement, I don't want to be waitng for 1/2 hour to get off of a bus full of people.
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well i dont think the resort can hold that many guests in its hotels

thrawn do you know if it can?

and some people do drive themselves to the parks

of course the busses if its that bad to get to MK then id take a bus to say MGM, hop the boat to epcot, then take the monorail to TTC, then to MK on the hotel monorail if necessary. lots of transfers and it takes a while, involving a walk from the britain pavilion to the front of epcot but if the busses were that bad. hell id do it just to see a bunch of the World
 
CapnStinxy

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Thrawn said:
The Walt Disney Company is a publically traded company on the American Stock Exchange. They trade under the symbol DIS.
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DIS trades on the NYSE. It's also part of the Dow composite average.

For 2004, $2.35 billion in income on $30.75 billion in revenues. Read the 10K filing for the gory details.

Hic! I need more gin.
 
goofyfan13

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nsxdrift_89 said:
Think about the bus statement, I don't want to be waitng for 1/2 hour to get off of a bus full of people.
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And if they linked the monorail to all the parks and hotels you would still travel the same distance, so it wouldn't make that much of a difference, maybe a little, but not a lot. If the busses are consistantly full they can deploy more busses, whereas they don't exactly have that freedom with the monorail.
 
dflye

dflye

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Ok, to be blunt (and to totally disregard the complete dependence upon fossil fuel in the USA), just rent a car when you visit WDW (for those that don't drive down there in the first place), and don't use the monorail or the bus.

Wow, that sure is simple, no more waiting for the local transport to pick you up at your resort (on or off property), and if you have an AAA membership, you can park your car up front next to the handicap section, and not even need to use the parking lot tram!

Unless WDW makes the capital investment to bring their high speed public transportation system up to the scale similar to that of NYC, Chicago, London, or any other metropolis with a huge underground/aboveground transportation network, the other means of transportation will always rule.
 
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Erika

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imagineer boy said:
Well, this thread is completely hopeless, so in the mean time:

LETS DO THE TIME WARP AGAAAAAAAIIIIIINN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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:veryconfu

Hopeless how? It's finally progressed from bickering to intelligent discussion.
 
Thrawn

Thrawn

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CapnStinxy said:
DIS trades on the NYSE. It's also part of the Dow composite average.

For 2004, $2.35 billion in income on $30.75 billion in revenues. Read the 10K filing for the gory details.

Hic! I need more gin.
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Brain fart.

Thanks for looking up the profit, the $1b+ expenditure that a monorail would be is even more costly when they are only talking about $2.35 "free" to spend on it.
 
wannab@dis

wannab@dis

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Thrawn said:
Brain fart.

Thanks for looking up the profit, the $1b+ expenditure that a monorail would be is even more costly when they are only talking about $2.35 "free" to spend on it.
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I'd take that one step further. Since income does not necessarily equate to available capital for infrastructure re-investment, I'd say a LOT of shareholders would denounce a move like that!
 
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Erika

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Thrawn said:
Quite a stretch to call a monorail expansion thread intelligent.
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:lol: Well, I guess I was referring to the well-articulated discourse about Disney transportation and finance in general. I had been avoiding this thread but was pleasantly surprised to see it had taken a turn for the better (Rocky Horror references aside).





What do you think it would take to get a MK to Phoenix monorail? Better yet, just build it right to my front door. :lookaroun
 

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