Monorail/Transportation Idea

[peter11435]

i mean MGM Mirage, MGM is now a part of SPE (Sony Pictures Entertainment). MGM Mirage's sticker symbol is MGM.

Sticker symbol :lol: :lol: Thats a new one.

 

[nsxdrift_89]

DIS, MGM, LVS, WYNN

it was a typo Stock Ticker Symbol

 

[Thrawn]

aHAH but any system of transportation, if implemented correctly and strategically, can be efficient!

Completely and utterly wrong. I have already covered the traffic pattern problem. Please go search for posts by invero. We have had thousands of posts on the subject of monorail expansion, and we never solve anything, except for the facts that:

1) It would be extremely costly.
2) It would be inefficient for WDW's traffic flow.
3) It would have huge problems if a train was to break down.

 

[Nemesis394]

Not true. I am not going to get into specifics here, but if you do a thread search you will find detailed explantions (most be invero) about the topic. The fact is that any form of transportation that relies on a track can not be efficient to serve WDW's needs.

oooh youre just upset that nsx put you in your place


:lol: juuuust kiddinggggg

 

[nsxdrift_89]

then what abot a PM, style LIM, transport. That has pods that would stop at each resort, then unify into a single train while on a LIM track. They could also connect the parks. But that would probably be too expensive wouldn't it THRAWN.

 

[Tim G]

I never meant that Michael was some sort of founder of the first Japanese Park...
I meant that he was the one who kept forking out the money for asia, without him they would never be, where they are now... Jeez!!!

He was the one who kept pushing them in the right direction....

But wasn't this a "MONORAIL" thread???


PS.

And for me... this thread is CLOSED!!!



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But remember... That all started by a M°o°use...

 

[Nemesis394]

Completely and utterly wrong. I have already covered the traffic pattern problem. Please go search for posts by invero. We have had thousands of posts on the subject of monorail expansion, and we never solve anything, except for the facts that:

1) It would be extremely costly.
2) It would be inefficient for WDW's traffic flow.
3) It would have huge problems if a train was to break down.

ya know i was gonna contradict but damn youre right. the monorails do nothing but exactly what i said would be the problem with expanding it, add more transfers from transport to transport. but my point is that a car (not necessarily bigger in external dimension) that has a higher passenger capacity being implemented on the existing lines would help alot with the efficiency of existing lines... you have to at least admit that. because the trains can be made to the specifications of the track. like the marks that are currently in use

 

[nsxdrift_89]

the company wouldn't be where it is today, if it weren't for Eisner.

but it seems that this thread is a cross between a common courtesy/WDW transportation

 

[Nemesis394]

then what abot a PM, style LIM, transport. That has pods that would stop at each resort, then unify into a single train while on a LIM track. They could also connect the parks. But that would probably be too expensive wouldn't it THRAWN.

.... that sounds even more technologically expensive... ill consede the point. any changing to the monorail system is going to be a very small one... like for instance putting in the computerized controls... but tell me how THAT yields profit

 

[Tim G]

This thread is going nowhere... I quit... It's NO use...

 

[UncleScrooge]

.... any changing to the monorail system is going to be a very small one

Exactly. Only Something very limited such as what I proposed on page 2, would even be considered due to logistics and cost constraints.

 

[PhotoDave219]

I heard from a reliable source that it cost 7 million dollars per mile to build monorail tracks, and even more to maintain it and get new trains and w/e other costs there are....so it is unlikely they will do that, but hey, we can wish....

And dont forget labor costs.....

 

[Thrawn]

ya know i was gonna contradict but damn youre right. the monorails do nothing but exactly what i said would be the problem with expanding it, add more transfers from transport to transport. but my point is that a car (not necessarily bigger in external dimension) that has a higher passenger capacity being implemented on the existing lines would help alot with the efficiency of existing lines... you have to at least admit that. because the trains can be made to the specifications of the track. like the marks that are currently in use

You're right in that a bigger cab would hold more people. You're wrong in saying you can just plop one onto the current track. The track would have to change. They'd have to change all the stations. And what would it hold? Maybe 40 more people per train? Thats the same as sending another bus.

 

[Nemesis394]

You're right in that a bigger cab would hold more people. You're wrong in saying you can just plop one onto the current track. The track would have to change. They'd have to change all the stations. And what would it hold? Maybe 40 more people per train? Thats the same as sending another bus.

ok they didnt change the tracks for the new marks as opposed to the old ones, and 40 per car? are you kidding me? way more you can fit at least 10 people into each of the seating compartments of which there are 2 in each car and there are i think 8 cars per train. thats the same as 4 busses and thats right now... take away the center row of seating in each car of the current marks and put them along the windows and there ya go... same amount of seats about and ALOT more standing room

 

[Connor002]

I never meant that Michael was some sort of founder of the first Japanese Park...
I meant that he was the one who kept forking out the money for asia, without him they would never be, where they are now... Jeez!!!

He was the one who kept pushing them in the right direction....

Ohhh... I get it now.

 

[Thrawn]

ok they didnt change the tracks for the new marks as opposed to the old ones, and 40 per car? are you kidding me? way more you can fit at least 10 people into each of the seating compartments of which there are 2 in each car and there are i think 8 cars per train. thats the same as 4 busses and thats right now... take away the center row of seating in each car of the current marks and put them along the windows and there ya go... same amount of seats about and ALOT more standing room

Thats because they were built on the same spec. They weren't wider or hugely different capacity.

The problem with what you want to do, as I understand your explanation, is the flow of guests. You can't just take the middle seating areas out and put guests there. That would add time to the embarking/disembarking phase of the trip, and cause backups of the trains. There are people who have studied a lot more about guest flow at WDW then any of us ever could. If they thought removing even some of those middle seats would be an improvement, they'd have been taken out long ago. If you were going to add another set of doors to each cab then it might work, but that would require rehabs of all the stations.

If you are saying that you would just take out the seats and also add doors, you are forgetting just the major cost of replacing the entire fleet of monorails.

 

[Nemesis394]

i suppose


thrawn, a deal.

respect my opinion and dont respond in a belittling tone and i wont get unbelievably furious with you. this way we can discuss subjects without the pretense of name calling... truce?

 

[Thrawn]

i suppose


thrawn, a deal.

respect my opinion and dont respond in a belittling tone and i wont get unbelievably furious with you. this way we can discuss subjects without the pretense of name calling... truce?

Ha. Your opinion, as I said all along, was wrong. And I was right. I did not resort to name calling, as you did, and I responded, with facts, and with backup to my argument.

Truce? No. Learn how to respect the board, the members, and the way things are done here, then I might treat you with respect as I do to the other educated posters around here. You have to learn that other people may know what they are talking about, and may know more about Disney, WDW, or life itself more than you do. Some people can post very well, and have strong opinions on things. You can't just flip out and attack people because they don't agree with your opinion. If you want a quick list of some of the best posters here, I'll be glad to supply it.

 

[Connor002]

Ha. Your opinion, as I said all along, was wrong. And I was right. I did not resort to name calling, as you did, and I responded, with facts, and with backup to my argument.

Truce? No. Learn how to respect the board, the members, and the way things are done here, then I might treat you with respect as I do to the other educated posters around here.

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I knew that was comming. :lol:

 

[wdwishes2005]

HIGHER CAPACITY MONoRAIL CARS ON EXISTING LINES.

in case you havent noticed, the monorails take up ALL the space in a station, if you can tell me how to make the cars higher capacity, i would thnak you.