Rumor Moana E-Ticket Ride to Adventureland

[Delta-7]

Would it be possible for this Moana attraction to have drops? I wonder how that would work with the rumored motion-base ride system.

So Moana anyone ???

I want this approved asap because the MK needs an actual addition.

Yes please, it’s time for that IP to be put to full attraction use and for that dank expansion plot to be filled once and for all.

He’s comically wrong quite frequently, but every once in a while seems to guess correctly.

But…but…he has a rEAlLy great track record! Kidding aside, has Brayden even mentioned the Moana and BBT Coco rumors or is he even aware of them? I find that funny…

 

[Nickm2022]

Would it be possible for this Moana attraction to have drops? I wonder how that would work with the rumored motion-base ride system.

Yes please, it’s time for that IP to be put to full attraction use and for that dank expansion plot to be filled once and for all.

But…but…he has a rEAlLy great track record! Kidding aside, has Brayden even mentioned the Moana and BBT Coco rumors or is he even aware of them? I find that funny…

I agree. I personally love Brayden but even I find it hard they would do more Cars and Woody instead of something more unique or a "untapped IP" to use Disney words. Plus Moana in Adventure Land and Coco in a new Desert land (not to mention Villains land) would be such easy wins for the fans. I think (in my opinion, not a rumor/source) that there's probably multiple ideas for Beyond Big Thunder currently being considered and that Cars just happens to be one of the options being considered. Likely because they already know how much it costs and why not consider everything.

 

[Sectorkeeper71]

Shoulda had the road go thru the new resort like the monorail goes thru the Contemporary!

“Nothing gets the family in the Disney mood like watching the Cisco truck go through the lobby!”

 

[ToTBellHop]

“Nothing gets the family in the Disney mood like watching the Cisco truck go through the lobby!”

As long as Rascal Flatts’ version of “Life is a Highway” is playing, it couldn’t possibly be more Disney.

 

[Sectorkeeper71]

As long as Rascal Flatts’ version of “Life is a Highway” is playing, it couldn’t possibly be more Disney.

Slap some eyes on the windshield and I’m sold!

 

[SilentWindODoom]

I’m not going to complain about any E-ticket ride Moana (or Avengers) ride…but I’m surprised that the Shanghai POTC system is the leading contender. I haven’t been on it in a few years now but as I recall the environment feels dark and confined (admittedly it’s darker in theme and a lot of the ride is set under water)— maybe it works if you change the subject on the screens, or maybe we’re getting a whole ride set in Tamatoa’s shiny disco layer, which would be incredible.

Was going to reply to this in the other thread, but there's been so much crosstalk of all these projects across threads and conversation had moved on (I'd forgotten I'd quoted this before going to reply in another thread) and this thread's been quiet for a little bit, so...

There's such a focus on the ability to navigate using the stars. I can easily see the attraction entirely taking place at night, or at least start at a dusk similar in color to the blue used in Shanghai for underwater segments. We'd better definitely get a physical Tamatoa, that when we go under. I can also picture the ships we travel between being replaced with the Kakamora and their vessels.

 

[wedenterprises]

I don't see how they'd get us from Adventureland to the plot SW of Pirates. There's a fire access road there which has a backstage area to the west, and the first scene of Jungle Cruise to the east.

The only thing that makes sense to me is if they build a bridge over all of that, but even then it would be narrow.

Is a re-structuring of the JC ride path in the works?

 

[SilentWindODoom]

I don't see how they'd get us from Adventureland to the plot SW of Pirates. There's a fire access road there which has a backstage area to the west, and the first scene of Jungle Cruise to the east.

The only thing that makes sense to me is if they build a bridge over all of that, but even then it would be narrow.

Is a re-structuring of the JC ride path in the works?

Considering what they've done to the only real scene that would be affected, they might as well just redo that whole section. Would be good to put in a better Amazon section with a canopy and more subtle mist and maybe some frogs.

 

[Gusey]

I think we're assuming it'll be something like what was proposed for Fire Mountain:

 

[wedenterprises]

Considering what they've done to the only real scene that would be affected, they might as well just redo that whole section. Would be good to put in a better Amazon section with a canopy and more subtle mist and maybe some frogs.

I agree with that, however the load station takes an immediate left turn and runs parallel to the access road. If they were to pave that scene over, they would have to re-route the entire ride, including relocating the load station.

Does anyone have a blueprint of the JC ride layout?

 

[wedenterprises]

I think we're assuming it'll be something like what was proposed for Fire Mountain:
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Oh wow! Thanks for posting this. So they would ditch the access road. Interesting. Based on this, JC isn't affected much at all.
So maybe the access road isn't as important as I realize.

 

[DCLcruiser]

I think we're assuming it'll be something like what was proposed for Fire Mountain:
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I never realized that Fire Mountain was related to Atlantis. Talk about a movie that should have been amazing.

 

[Coaster Lover]

I think we're assuming it'll be something like what was proposed for Fire Mountain:
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Sorry to take this thread off course, but I've always wanted to know... Was the original intent to use the Vekoma Flying Dutchman model (Stealth [formerly], Batwing [Six Flags America], Nighthawk [Carowinds]) for Fire Mountain? Was this model possibly specifically developed (in collaboration with Disney) for this project? As for timing, Atlantis came out in 2001, Stealth opened in 2000... Disney loves working with Vekoma (and was actively working with Vekoma a lot during this time). A lot of the concept art shown for Fire Mountain looks suspiciously close to the Flying Dutchman model. Further, the two Flying Dutchman models that opened in 2001 had features that Disney likely would have wanted to utilize (dual loading platforms, the ability to incline/recline the seats outside of the station (such as on the approach to the lift hill or on the brake run). I can just imagine a situation where Disney was not 100% satisfied when they saw Stealth at Great America (the first of this model) and the failure of Atlantis was just the final nail in the coffin (and why we never saw an attraction at any Disney mark similar to what is described for Fire Mountain).

@marni1971 ? Anyone else?

 

[lazyboy97o]

I don't see how they'd get us from Adventureland to the plot SW of Pirates. There's a fire access road there which has a backstage area to the west, and the first scene of Jungle Cruise to the east.

The only thing that makes sense to me is if they build a bridge over all of that, but even then it would be narrow.

Is a re-structuring of the JC ride path in the works?

The road can be relocated. It doesn’t have to stay in that place. Fire access can be provided on guest paths.

The bigger question would be utilities underneath and even then, they could be kept under a guest corridor.

 

[wedenterprises]

The road can be relocated. It doesn’t have to stay in that place. Fire access can be provided on guest paths.

The bigger question would be utilities underneath and even then, they could be kept under a guest corridor.

OK that makes sense. And getting over the railroad tracks would only require an elevated pathway.

 

[SilentWindODoom]

I agree with that, however the load station takes an immediate left turn and runs parallel to the access road. If they were to pave that scene over, they would have to re-route the entire ride, including relocating the load station.

Does anyone have a blueprint of the JC ride layout?

Entire park, Adventureland, and the specific ride.

Fire access can be provided on guest paths.

I hadn't realized until looking at the above plans how few open pathways to Adventureland there are. Can emergency vehicles easily make it through the archway to Frontierland?

 

[marni1971]

Sorry to take this thread off course, but I've always wanted to know... Was the original intent to use the Vekoma Flying Dutchman model (Stealth [formerly], Batwing [Six Flags America], Nighthawk [Carowinds]) for Fire Mountain? Was this model possibly specifically developed (in collaboration with Disney) for this project? As for timing, Atlantis came out in 2001, Stealth opened in 2000... Disney loves working with Vekoma (and was actively working with Vekoma a lot during this time). A lot of the concept art shown for Fire Mountain looks suspiciously close to the Flying Dutchman model. Further, the two Flying Dutchman models that opened in 2001 had features that Disney likely would have wanted to utilize (dual loading platforms, the ability to incline/recline the seats outside of the station (such as on the approach to the lift hill or on the brake run). I can just imagine a situation where Disney was not 100% satisfied when they saw Stealth at Great America (the first of this model) and the failure of Atlantis was just the final nail in the coffin (and why we never saw an attraction at any Disney mark similar to what is described for Fire Mountain).

@marni1971 ? Anyone else?

Pass. I was always told Fire / Bald /Atlantis were similar and wanted to use a proprietary under then above track system.

 

[marni1971]

I hadn't realized until looking at the above plans how few open pathways to Adventureland there are. Can emergency vehicles easily make it through the archway to Frontierland?

They access Frontierland along the parade route next to Splash that other ride.

 

[dreamfinding]

How much room do they realistically have to work with (in terms of acerage)?

 

[Coaster Lover]

Pass. I was always told Fire / Bald /Atlantis were similar and wanted to use a proprietary under then above track system.

Thanks anyways. When I originally heard the concept for Fire Mountain, my assumption was some sort of method where the car itself had two sets of wheel boogies (one on the bottom and one on the top) and somewhere along the ride, it would transition between a track below you and a track above you (with the orientation of the car itself never changing), but that seems cumbersome and prone to issues. The Flying Dutchman model has times where the track is below you and times where the track is above you and seems the simpler solution to what was being described.

It would be nice to see Disney utilize Vekoma's current variation on the flying coaster (as seen on F.L.Y. at Phantasialand... assuming Phantasialand doesn't have some sort of exclusivity for the model). That model feels perfect for something Mandalorian or Iron Man related (especially with its' simplified/elegant loading system).