Moana 2 (Disney Animation - November 2024)

[Casper Gutman]

Mehhh… this will probably make money.

That said, the decision to devalue one of the studios bankable and prestigious IPs by rushing out some hastily repackaged TV episodes absolutely SHOULD come back to bite Disney. It was a stupid desperation move. Moana 2 underperforming would likely be a better thing for fans then if it finds wild success - it would deter Disney from this kind of cheap, hasty behavior and prove the need to carefully nurture franchises. This isn’t 2023 - Disneys has had a very good year at the box office, animation has proved its worth, and the overall situation is much more stable. Moana 2 was not, I believe, produced by the feature animation division, so that group would not bear the brunt of a box office disappointment. I’m not rooting hard for this one.

 

[Farerb]

 

[LSLS]

For all the doubters… Moana is going to be a hit…it’s just a matter of how big…which will depend on quality

For the record, I'd be SHOCKED if it's not. I still think it and Wicked will cannibalize some because people can't afford two movies in a week, but I don't think it's anywhere close to enough to make it a dud. THOUGH, I'll say, I have been totally wrong on this before (not to derail completely, but I was certain Little Mermaid's baseline was $1 billion). If it doesn't hit at LEAST 3rd for the year at the box office, I think it's a disappointment (that would be just under $1 billion worldwide, $362 million domestic). I'm not sure if it will hit Inside Out 2 levels, but I won't be shocked if it does.

One thing my entire cannibalization idea may do is cause it to have more legs. If you go to Wicked this Saturday, maybe you don't go to Moana next Saturday. Instead maybe you go a few weeks later to spread out the costs a bit (or, you got Moana tickets and you wait a few week on Wicked). This will be an interesting next month or so with so many big hitter movies coming out.

 

[DKampy]

For the record, I'd be SHOCKED if it's not. I still think it and Wicked will cannibalize some because people can't afford two movies in a week, but I don't think it's anywhere close to enough to make it a dud. THOUGH, I'll say, I have been totally wrong on this before (not to derail completely, but I was certain Little Mermaid's baseline was $1 billion). If it doesn't hit at LEAST 3rd for the year at the box office, I think it's a disappointment (that would be just under $1 billion worldwide, $362 million domestic). I'm not sure if it will hit Inside Out 2 levels, but I won't be shocked if it does.

One thing my entire cannibalization idea may do is cause it to have more legs. If you go to Wicked this Saturday, maybe you don't go to Moana next Saturday. Instead maybe you go a few weeks later to spread out the costs a bit (or, you got Moana tickets and you wait a few week on Wicked). This will be an interesting next month or so with so many big hitter movies coming out.

Wicked will be the blockbuster of the season…especially given the word of mouth... Apparently it is excellent… have not seen yet myself… but essentially it is this years Barbie…. But that still does not discount Moana

 

[MisterPenguin]

Wicked will be the blockbuster of the season…especially given the word of mouth... Apparently it is excellent… have not seen yet myself… but essentially it is this years Barbie…. But that still does not discount Moana

I thought Inside Out 2 was this years Barbie and Deadpool and Wolverine was this years Oppenheimer. Or is Despicable Me 3 this year's Oppenheimer and Dune Part II this year's Super Mario Bros?

 

[DisneyWarrior27]

Wicked will be the blockbuster of the season…especially given the word of mouth... Apparently it is excellent… have not seen yet myself… but essentially it is this years Barbie…. But that still does not discount Moana

I wonder if Mufasa will surprise this December and take people away from Wicked, if the new story and the new songs are strong.

 

[DKampy]

I wonder if Mufasa will surprise this December and take people away from Wicked, if the new story and the new songs are strong.

I think it will be a strong season…. And Mufasa could surprise people with how well it could do…. This is usually the season where films can show a significant amount of legs

 

[Miss Rori]

I wonder if Mufasa will surprise this December and take people away from Wicked, if the new story and the new songs are strong.

I think Mufasa can be a hit but not at the expense of Wicked; there's a whole month in between the two after all. I'd be more worried Moana 2 would get in the way of Mufasa being a bigger hit. Especially given that Disney clearly didn't think Mufasa could carry them through the holiday season on its own, which is why we're getting a hastily retooled Moana 2 in the first place!

The issue with audiences possibly choosing to wait on Moana 2 is that Disney has to pivot its marketing to Mufasa after the first week-and-a-half of the former has played out. Universal has the whole holiday season to keep pushing Wicked and so far that seems a sound strategy. (I saw the film last night and found it exceptional, and I think it will make a lot of people very happy.) Also, what if critics aren't supportive of Moana 2? The review embargo doesn't drop until late Monday night (before the Tuesday public previews), which may or may not be a bad sign. Rough reviews didn't help Wish develop legs last year...

 

[DisneyWarrior27]

I think Mufasa can be a hit but not at the expense of Wicked; there's a whole month in between the two after all. I'd be more worried Moana 2 would get in the way of Mufasa being a bigger hit. Especially given that Disney clearly didn't think Mufasa could carry them through the holiday season on its own, which is why we're getting a hastily retooled Moana 2 in the first place!

The issue with audiences possibly choosing to wait on Moana 2 is that Disney has to pivot its marketing to Mufasa after the first week-and-a-half of the former has played out. Universal has the whole holiday season to keep pushing Wicked and so far that seems a sound strategy. (I saw the film last night and found it exceptional, and I think it will make a lot of people very happy.) Also, what if critics aren't supportive of Moana 2? The review embargo doesn't drop until late Monday night (before the Tuesday public previews), which may or may not be a bad sign. Rough reviews didn't help Wish develop legs last year...

The social media embargo did drop for Moana 2 today and for now, it’s early, but the early reaction is that it’s a decent sequel.

Also, having the review embargo drop a day before GLOBAL release doesn’t mean the film will suck when Disney did the exact same thing for all of their 2024 releases so far, including Deadpool & Wolverine, Inside Out 2, Alien: Romulus, Kingdom of the Planet of the Apes, The First Omen, and Agatha All Along. And they all turned out to be fine and do well.

I doubt things will be different with Moana 2 when people like Empire City Box Office on Twitter, which I quit from, a week ago, is saying he heard it’s great: .

Seems to me like Disney is just not taking their chances after their mostly disastrous results of their 2023 film slate.

 

[DCBaker]

Here's a behind-the-scenes look at the music from Moana 2:

 

[Disgruntled Walt]

The Chee-Hoo song is like a LMM song without any clever rhymes and a melody that is more just annoying than anything else.

Also, "come on-a, Moana" is laughably bad. Like, I'm actually laughing at it. And they keep doubling-down on it.

 

[BrianLo]

And a fair deal of people have only learned about the sequel in the past few weeks, saying that they hadn't seen any trailers, etc. for it. (Especially compared to Universal's full-court promotional press for Wicked.)

Again, this is not true. Unaided awareness has been higher on Moana 2 the entire time. It only finally climbed higher for Wicked yesterday on Quorum's tracking by one point, and of course Moana 2 is a full week behind.

I don't think this is all that meaningful. But you keep bringing it up.

 

[Ripken10]

Again, this is not true. Unaided awareness has been higher on Moana 2 the entire time. It only finally climbed higher for Wicked yesterday on Quorum's tracking by one point, and of course Moana 2 is a full week behind.

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I don't think this is all that meaningful. But you keep bringing it up.

I just find it funny to say people aren't aware when the trailer broke records on views and all...

 

[Farerb]

Based on early reviews I do not expect this movie to receive good reviews and the music is terrible (even in early reviews they are like "not as catchy as the original's" sure buddy) but it'll be successful nonetheless.

 

[DisneyWarrior27]

Based on early reviews I do not expect this movie to receive good reviews and the music is terrible (even in early reviews they are like "not as catchy as the original's" sure buddy) but it'll be successful nonetheless.

Odd. Seems like the music is more divisive than terrible.

 

[Phroobar]

Again, this is not true. Unaided awareness has been higher on Moana 2 the entire time. It only finally climbed higher for Wicked yesterday on Quorum's tracking by one point, and of course Moana 2 is a full week behind.

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I don't think this is all that meaningful. But you keep bringing it up.

This chart is meaningless. There is a lot of data missing on this chart. 80% of what over what is aware?
If you gave that chart to your professor in a statistics class, you would get an F.

 

[TsWade2]

Please don't make Moana 2 a flop! If you did, it'll be.....I can't say it! But seriously, don't make it a flop!

 

[DisneyWarrior27]

Please don't make Moana 2 a flop! If you did, it'll be.....I can't say it! But seriously, don't make it a flop!

Calm down, dude. We won’t let it down.

 

[TsWade2]

Calm down, dude. We won’t let it down.

Well a lot've users here in this discussion forum are not being supportive to Wish making Disney's worst 100th anniversary ever! And now, they're not being supportive to Moana 2! Inside Out 2 saved Pixar, but we must also save WDAS!

 

[DisneyWarrior27]

Well a lot've userd here in this discussion forum are not being supportive to Wish making DIsney's worst 100th anniversary ever! Insode Out 2 saved Pixar, but we also must save WDAS!

Wade, please calm down