Moana 2 (Disney Animation - November 2024)

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Ripken10

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I know anecdotal stories mean little...but my son had his birthday party this weekend. Moana 2 came up a few times from several people. What gets me is the varying people that are talking about it. I would be shocked if Moana 2 doesn't make huge money. The box office is hard to predict, with more movies underperforming the overperforming these days...but all the signs point to Moana 2 being a movie that overperforms from what I see. Again, just a personal opinion, but I do a lot of tracking of the box office.

If there was a movie that could unseat Inside Out 2 in 2024, it is Moana 2. I am not saying it will, but put me in the camp of shocked anyone can't see this being a big movie. (honestly, anyone that says it does just sounds like a reincarnation of some of our old friends on these boards IMO)
 
LSLS

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Ripken10 said:
I know anecdotal stories mean little...but my son had his birthday party this weekend. Moana 2 came up a few times from several people. What gets me is the varying people that are talking about it. I would be shocked if Moana 2 doesn't make huge money. The box office is hard to predict, with more movies underperforming the overperforming these days...but all the signs point to Moana 2 being a movie that overperforms from what I see. Again, just a personal opinion, but I do a lot of tracking of the box office.

If there was a movie that could unseat Inside Out 2 in 2024, it is Moana 2. I am not saying it will, but put me in the camp of shocked anyone can't see this being a big movie. (honestly, anyone that says it does just sounds like a reincarnation of some of our old friends on these boards IMO)
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I think the one thing that could really work against it is that I'm of the firm belief that the issues with movies right now are that have become too expensive for people to go more than once every month or 2, and you have a few big movies opening the weekend before. I'd be shocked if it doesn't bank a ton of money (I feel Moana is such a huge franchise at this point), but as evidence from other movies in this area, I've been shocked before.
 
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Ripken10

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LSLS said:
I think the one thing that could really work against it is that I'm of the firm belief that the issues with movies right now are that have become too expensive for people to go more than once every month or 2, and you have a few big movies opening the weekend before. I'd be shocked if it doesn't bank a ton of money (I feel Moana is such a huge franchise at this point), but as evidence from other movies in this area, I've been shocked before.
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As a note - based on inflation, the price of movie tickets is actually lower today than in 2019 (only by $0.05, but still - source: https://www.statista.com/statistics/1400207/average-ticket-price-movie-theater-us/#:~:text=Ticket price at U.S. movie theaters 1971-2022&text=According to a recent report,9.16 U.S. dollars in 2019.) From what I have seen, the rate at which ticket prices have gone up has slowed down a lot. But this is based on the average. Numbers show that ticket prices at places like AMC have increased far quicker than the average, and I believe that is due to new players in the game, smaller theater groups charging less in certain areas (anecdotal, but still an example is in our area which is the second biggest city in the state we live in has all the big players, but also has newer theaters that charge half the price with different concepts that they make their money on, like "beer walls" and food served to you while you watch - I myself used to go to the big chains, but I have not since these smaller chains opened up with a better experience for a far better price...especially if you don't buy the beer battered cheese pretzels...shoot, I can't pass those up).

I also believe that Wicked changed dates knowing that Moana was the big ticket, and they knew they needed to get a head start to a) make some money before this movie took the lions share, and b) in hopes positive word of mouth will limit its fall in its second weekend. Cause make no mistake, Moana 2 is going to be the bigger draw. It hits all 4 quadrants.
 
LSLS

LSLS

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Ripken10 said:
As a note - based on inflation, the price of movie tickets is actually lower today than in 2019 (only by $0.05, but still - source: https://www.statista.com/statistics/1400207/average-ticket-price-movie-theater-us/#:~:text=Ticket price at U.S. movie theaters 1971-2022&text=According to a recent report,9.16 U.S. dollars in 2019.) From what I have seen, the rate at which ticket prices have gone up has slowed down a lot. But this is based on the average. Numbers show that ticket prices at places like AMC have increased far quicker than the average, and I believe that is due to new players in the game, smaller theater groups charging less in certain areas (anecdotal, but still an example is in our area which is the second biggest city in the state we live in has all the big players, but also has newer theaters that charge half the price with different concepts that they make their money on, like "beer walls" and food served to you while you watch - I myself used to go to the big chains, but I have not since these smaller chains opened up with a better experience for a far better price...especially if you don't buy the beer battered cheese pretzels...shoot, I can't pass those up).

I also believe that Wicked changed dates knowing that Moana was the big ticket, and they knew they needed to get a head start to a) make some money before this movie took the lions share, and b) in hopes positive word of mouth will limit its fall in its second weekend. Cause make no mistake, Moana 2 is going to be the bigger draw. It hits all 4 quadrants.
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I'm not a big fan of using inflation, especially in the short term. For example, Median household income has dropped 5% from 2019 to 2022 according to the US Census. Since 1971, median income is up 27%, but tickets are up 85%. This also does not factor in the costs at the theaters. I'm just not convinced most families have an extra money every week to continuously go to movies, which is why I think there is potentially more canibalization today than there was 10 years ago even. I know for us, we spent almost $100 on going to Inside Out 2 after tickets, popcorn/candy and drinks for the family. Even if you cut that out, tickets were well over $50.

BUT, again, I think you are right, I think it hurts Wicked more than it will hurt Moana (my family aside). Just stating I could see that as being the one thing that could keep the movie down if it is down at all. I think a lot of families will not want to spend money on movie theaters in back to back weekends.
 
Disney Irish

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Ripken10 said:
As a note - based on inflation, the price of movie tickets is actually lower today than in 2019 (only by $0.05, but still - source: https://www.statista.com/statistics/1400207/average-ticket-price-movie-theater-us/#:~:text=Ticket price at U.S. movie theaters 1971-2022&text=According to a recent report,9.16 U.S. dollars in 2019.) From what I have seen, the rate at which ticket prices have gone up has slowed down a lot. But this is based on the average. Numbers show that ticket prices at places like AMC have increased far quicker than the average, and I believe that is due to new players in the game, smaller theater groups charging less in certain areas (anecdotal, but still an example is in our area which is the second biggest city in the state we live in has all the big players, but also has newer theaters that charge half the price with different concepts that they make their money on, like "beer walls" and food served to you while you watch - I myself used to go to the big chains, but I have not since these smaller chains opened up with a better experience for a far better price...especially if you don't buy the beer battered cheese pretzels...shoot, I can't pass those up).

I also believe that Wicked changed dates knowing that Moana was the big ticket, and they knew they needed to get a head start to a) make some money before this movie took the lions share, and b) in hopes positive word of mouth will limit its fall in its second weekend. Cause make no mistake, Moana 2 is going to be the bigger draw. It hits all 4 quadrants.
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That was in 2022 not 2024, average ticket price is actually up $0.25 the last two years compared to 2022, or $0.20 compared to 2019 adjusted for inflation.

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TsWade2

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I honestly think 1B is in the cards. Wicked will possibly help. I know a lot of people want to to make it a double feature.
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Like I said, there's a light at the end of the tunnel for WDAS. And don't worry, WDAS has an untitled original film coming in 2026. And then after that is a couple of Frozen sequels.
 
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Disney Irish

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MisterPenguin said:
www.hollywoodreporter.com

‘Moana 2’ Debuts First 30 Minutes as Sequel’s Team Promises “Epic Scale”

The film's directors explained how the project evolved from being planned as a streaming series to becoming a feature that hits theaters later this year: "We had to rightsize it in a very dramatic way."
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Reading this more closely, so the series would have been feature quality. But when they decided to make it into a feature for the large screen they took the core elements and expanded upon it. So this isn't going to be some low quality animated show just transitioned to the large screen as some had predicted. Not that that was really a question for most who watched the trailers.

Yeah this will do really well in theaters, we'll see how much soon enough.
 
Jedijax719

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Farerb said:
deadline.com

‘Moana 2’ “Could Eclipse” ‘Inside Out 2’ At The Box Office: What AMC Boss Adam Aron Heard

Despite the sluggishness of the fall box office with the bombing of Joker: Folie à Deux and the flat-footed start of Venom: The Last Dance, the holiday frames are coming up roses. Specifically Disney’s Moana 2 could help fuel the year along with Wicked and Mufasa: The Lion King to nearly $9...
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That's just not possible-not with a November release. Christmas maybe, but Inside Out 2 had the summer schedule with summer weekdays.
 
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Well isn’t this a nice way to start off the last half of the month. Gettin’ an autograph from Moana herself Auli’i Cravalho after finishing up press at The View for Disney’s Moana 2, on my Moana 2 pin I got at D23 in August.

If that ain’t enough, I let her know I was rooting for her film heavily, in the hopes its success would get Tiana’s Disney+ series to be turned into a theatrical sequel to The Princess And The Frog, a sequel that is also fully hand-drawn animated, for movie theaters.

Believe it or not, she actually was on my side & said she was a big advocate for more movies of hand-drawn animation to be made, saying “we need more of them to come back.” I was not expecting her to say that, but I was pleasantly surprised and delighted to hear her say that.

And after hearing her say that, before I left, I let her know I was glad to hear her say she was an advocate for a future for hand-drawn animation, along with reminding her that the original Moana was supposed to be hand-drawn when Musker and Clements were announced to direct it, only for Iger and Lasseter to say to them “sorry, but we can’t allow that,” to which she said “oh yeah, I know all about that,” and then I finished my quick chat with her by thanking her and wishing her fun to have ahead of Moana 2’s release and she said “thanks, hope you enjoy the movie,” to which I said “I hope to enjoy it too. Good luck.”

Also, a lot of people who also got autographs from Auli’i let her know of their support for the recently cancelled, cliffhanger-left Disney Channel series she starred as a voice in known as Hailey's On It, which I also joined in with by saying how big a shame it was they cancelled it.

So, all in all, pretty good beginning to the final half of the penultimate month of the year for me.
 

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