MK Testing New Entry Scans

wannab@dis

Well-Known Member
s25843 said:
They can probally find out more information with the information they already have on file, then they could do with a fingerprint image (besides, if your fingerprints aren't in any goverment database to begin with, then they can't find out much with just your scan anyways)

Biometric scanners DO NOT record images of the fingerprint. They have an algorythm that computes a numerical representation of the ridges and size of the print. Each vendor has their own algorythm so it's unlikely it could be shared between other companies, etc.

Even if the same vendor is used, each installation can use different encryption hashes for storage. In other words, the data would mean nothing without a key.
 

Epcot82Guy

Well-Known Member
wannab@dis said:
Biometric scanners DO NOT record images of the fingerprint. They have an algorythm that computes a numerical representation of the ridges and size of the print. Each vendor has their own algorythm so it's unlikely it could be shared between other companies, etc.

Even if the same vendor is used, each installation can use different encryption hashes for storage. In other words, the data would mean nothing without a key.

Aren't they also limited to a 7 (or 10) point comparison, so you only have a small subset of the print as a whole? I do agree with the print scanner just because I have seen the confusion for guests that don't speak English. With this scanner, it will be easier to explain through demonstration.

And, for the record, I have also been agreeing with almost all your posts in this tread, wannab@dis. :lookaroun
 

AEfx

Well-Known Member
Sledge said:
My dad and I have switched passes back and forth numerous times and they never said a thing. :lookaroun

Were you on the same package?

They aggregate them just for this reason.

AEfx
 

wannab@dis

Well-Known Member
Epcot82Guy said:
Aren't they also limited to a 7 (or 10) point comparison, so you only have a small subset of the print as a whole? I do agree with the print scanner just because I have seen the confusion for guests that don't speak English. With this scanner, it will be easier to explain through demonstration.

And, for the record, I have also been agreeing with almost all your posts in this tread, wannab@dis. :lookaroun
You can set thresholds for the comparisons, but I'm not sure how it equates to "size" of the print.

Woohoo... we're on a roll with the agreements! Care to step over to the Body Wars thread? Nah, let's not mess it up. :lol:
 

Sledge

Account Suspended
AEfx said:
Were you on the same package?

They aggregate them just for this reason.

AEfx
That's what were were kind of wondering. I should have tried it with some random person behind us in line. lol
 

Mori Anne

Active Member
In the Parks
No
I was reading this post and I got to thinking.........

Maybe DIsney is doing them more for security reasons to help identify possible terrorists possibly wanting to use Disney World as there next target and just want to update their systems with a more accurate equipment?????:lookaroun

BTW Hello to all of you, it has been awhile since I have been online. Hopefully you all have been doing well.......
 

wannab@dis

Well-Known Member
moriah said:
I was reading this post and I got to thinking.........

Maybe DIsney is doing them more for security reasons to help identify possible terrorists possibly wanting to use Disney World as there next target and just want to update their systems with a more accurate equipment?????:lookaroun

BTW Hello to all of you, it has been awhile since I have been online. Hopefully you all have been doing well.......

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bassman

New Member
mousermerf said:
I think Universal already uses these - and if they're the same ones, then they're worse than the current system. I've never seen anyone's scan work properly at Universal.

your right they do, to get a locker.
i hope they aren't the same things at MK, the universal ones are pointless and frustrating,itr doesn't scan your thumb proberly and that voice.grr

'place...thumb....fermly....on....the....scanner..............
remove.....thumb......place......thumb......on......scanner....again.........
thank.........you':mad: man they get frustrating

BTW if they are a different system then im all for them,not that the two finger things did much anyway
 

s25843

Well-Known Member
wannab@dis said:
Biometric scanners DO NOT record images of the fingerprint. They have an algorythm that computes a numerical representation of the ridges and size of the print. Each vendor has their own algorythm so it's unlikely it could be shared between other companies, etc.

Even if the same vendor is used, each installation can use different encryption hashes for storage. In other words, the data would mean nothing without a key.

Yes, I know the current Bio's do not record your fingerprints, I was saying IF they were to switch to such a system
 

wannab@dis

Well-Known Member
s25843 said:
Yes, I know the current Bio's do not record your fingerprints, I was saying IF they were to switch to such a system
Even if they switch the system in the OP... it would still be a biometric scanner. It wouldn't capture the image of the fingerprint.
 

Hakunamatata

Le Meh
Premium Member
It wont be too long until they implement retinal scan technology. Then all the AP holders will have to worry about getting mugged for their eyeballs....
 

unkadug

Follower of "Saget"The Cult
hakunamatata said:
It wont be too long until they implement retinal scan technology. Then all the AP holders will have to worry about getting mugged for their eyeballs....
or how about DNA scanning? Please remove a hair sample for us to test or a drop of blood if you don't mind!! :rolleyes:
 

kal1484

Well-Known Member
biggbird5182 said:
How do the 2 finger ones even work?

They don't.....I've gotten mad more times waiting for stupid idiots to try and get their fingers in those stupid things.


peter11435 said:
Most times it only takes 1-2 minutes. The scanners do not cause nearly the problems some people like to say.

The days you went, busy busy days, I can tell you almost 100% that some of the CMs, after a while just said ":X it" because it was too fustrating. Not to mention the fact that it's not even the long lines it's that ONE person who gets infront of you, takes 3 minutes to get their tickets out to their wife and two kids, one in a stroller trying to get in the gate and can't get the finger thing right. It only takes one idiot to take 10 minutes of your time...wish they'd make an AP line, hopefully at least 1/2 the people would get it right w/in a minutes.
 

MickeyTigg

New Member
Original Poster
wannab@dis said:
From what I understand, all tickets bought in a transaction are linked within their systems. The biometrics are then linked to that "group" of tickets and not an individual ticket. I'm not sure if that's the case for APs.

With AP's each ticket has the individual so the biometric scan is for each person (except kids which are not scanned).
 

MickeyTigg

New Member
Original Poster
gsimpson said:
For anyone who wishes to know the ACLU's motives for their actions simply look up the identity and history of its founding members. No point in me or anyone else telling you what to think, read the history and make reach your own conclusions. You will find the name is very misleading and probably be surprised at how antagonistic toward individual liberties they actually are.

I presonally agree with many people on this post that they are evil.

Hey everyone....let's keep this discussion on topic....I didn't not want or intend this thread to become discussion of the merits of the ACLU.
 

MickeyTigg

New Member
Original Poster
Sledge said:
My dad and I have switched passes back and forth numerous times and they never said a thing. :lookaroun

This is probably why the single finger scans are being tested. When only AP holders got scanned, the system was fairly tight on what matched. In fact, my wife and tried it a few years ago and it caught it.

Rumors have persisted since that after they instituted MYW tickets, the had to reduce the sensitivity of the system otherwise it was delaying too many poeple getting into the parks...it was causing a problem.
 

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