Mission:Space update (confirmed)

*Q*

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Offering multiple missions could be really cool and a really great way to spread awareness about the possibilities of space exploration. Like, for example, if they offered a mission where you land on an comet Rosetta-style. As much press as that mission got, I bet a lot of people still don't know that that's a thing and that there's potential for mining comets and asteroids and such for resources and everything.
 

lazyboy97o

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It's real hardware, and it lends incredible authenticity to the M:S experience (and the first one made cost $38 million dollars) -- never mind that the JPL provided imagery of Mars to make the video appear more authentic...
I am fairly certain the original has since been replaced with a replica.

Offering multiple missions could be really cool and a really great way to spread awareness about the possibilities of space exploration. Like, for example, if they offered a mission where you land on an comet Rosetta-style. As much press as that mission got, I bet a lot of people still don't know that that's a thing and that there's potential for mining comets and asteroids and such for resources and everything.
The only downside to multiple missions is that the capsules are connected to a common centrifuge.
 

GCTales

Well-Known Member
Offering multiple missions could be really cool and a really great way to spread awareness about the possibilities of space exploration. Like, for example, if they offered a mission where you land on an comet Rosetta-style. As much press as that mission got, I bet a lot of people still don't know that that's a thing and that there's potential for mining comets and asteroids and such for resources and everything.

Based on how the ride is designed, I don't see that happening unless you have centrifuge A and C "mission to mars" and centrifuge B and D "land on comet" or they drastically change the control software... which would cause its own complications.

The underlying technology to know and control the direction / vector of the G forces imposed on the riders requires very specific inputs and rider positioning to avoid inducing some nasty side effects (e.g., motion sickness/Coriolis illusion / vestibular illusions) adn the rsultant protein spills.

IIRC there are 10 capsules per centrifuge. The way the manufacturer designed it had all the pods on each device move in the same manner - to ensure that the G forces are correctly aligned for the riders. They would all have to have some identical motion.. you can't speed up capsule 1,3,5,7,9 to 3G and 2,4,6,8,10 to only 2G. You can move the capsule in different angles to change the vector direction of the G force and make it feel different...
 

marni1971

Park History nut
Premium Member
Offering multiple missions could be really cool and a really great way to spread awareness about the possibilities of space exploration. Like, for example, if they offered a mission where you land on an comet Rosetta-style. As much press as that mission got, I bet a lot of people still don't know that that's a thing and that there's potential for mining comets and asteroids and such for resources and everything.
I wouldn't say "multiple"
 

lazyboy97o

Well-Known Member
Based on how the ride is designed, I don't see that happening unless you have centrifuge A and C "mission to mars" and centrifuge B and D "land on comet" or they drastically change the control software... which would cause its own complications.

The underlying technology to know and control the direction / vector of the G forces imposed on the riders requires very specific inputs and rider positioning to avoid inducing some nasty side effects (e.g., motion sickness/Coriolis illusion / vestibular illusions) adn the rsultant protein spills.

IIRC there are 10 capsules per centrifuge. The way the manufacturer designed it had all the pods on each device move in the same manner - to ensure that the G forces are correctly aligned for the riders. They would all have to have some identical motion.. you can't speed up capsule 1,3,5,7,9 to 3G and 2,4,6,8,10 to only 2G. You can move the capsule in different angles to change the vector direction of the G force and make it feel different...
The easy solution to such a desire would be different audio and video synchronized to the same movements.
 

*Q*

Well-Known Member
I am fairly certain the original has since been replaced with a replica.


The only downside to multiple missions is that the capsules are connected to a common centrifuge.

Based on how the ride is designed, I don't see that happening unless you have centrifuge A and C "mission to mars" and centrifuge B and D "land on comet" or they drastically change the control software... which would cause its own complications.

The underlying technology to know and control the direction / vector of the G forces imposed on the riders requires very specific inputs and rider positioning to avoid inducing some nasty side effects (e.g., motion sickness/Coriolis illusion / vestibular illusions) adn the rsultant protein spills.

IIRC there are 10 capsules per centrifuge. The way the manufacturer designed it had all the pods on each device move in the same manner - to ensure that the G forces are correctly aligned for the riders. They would all have to have some identical motion.. you can't speed up capsule 1,3,5,7,9 to 3G and 2,4,6,8,10 to only 2G. You can move the capsule in different angles to change the vector direction of the G force and make it feel different...
I was just going off of Martin's hint that you will be able to choose your mission before you board. I see two options:
1) Each centrifuge is a different mission, so you could have four different missions. I wouldn't really expect they would do more than that, anyways.
2) You could design multiple ridefilms to match the same simulator movement profile. Everything at the beginning would be the same, anyways, with the launch.Then, for example, towards the end one capsule could be showing a landing on Mars while another is landing on Europa.
 

rushtest4echo

Well-Known Member
Based on how the ride is designed, I don't see that happening unless you have centrifuge A and C "mission to mars" and centrifuge B and D "land on comet" or they drastically change the control software... which would cause its own complications.

The underlying technology to know and control the direction / vector of the G forces imposed on the riders requires very specific inputs and rider positioning to avoid inducing some nasty side effects (e.g., motion sickness/Coriolis illusion / vestibular illusions) adn the rsultant protein spills.

IIRC there are 10 capsules per centrifuge. The way the manufacturer designed it had all the pods on each device move in the same manner - to ensure that the G forces are correctly aligned for the riders. They would all have to have some identical motion.. you can't speed up capsule 1,3,5,7,9 to 3G and 2,4,6,8,10 to only 2G. You can move the capsule in different angles to change the vector direction of the G force and make it feel different...

The easy solution to such a desire would be different audio and video synchronized to the same movements.

You're both right.
 

GCTales

Well-Known Member
I was just going off of Martin's hint that you will be able to choose your mission before you board. I see two options:
1) Each centrifuge is a different mission, so you could have four different missions. I wouldn't really expect they would do more than that, anyways.
2) You could design multiple ridefilms to match the same simulator movement profile. Everything at the beginning would be the same, anyways, with the launch.Then, for example, towards the end one capsule could be showing a landing on Mars while another is landing on Europa.
Yes... Both ideas would work...

I guess in my mind.. #2 really isn't a different ride. Option 1 would work... Though I remember that during the initial install stages they did not want to have all four running at once... But regardless... Different mission on each... Lower motion level on 2 and higher on 2....
 

larryz

I'm Just A Tourist!
Premium Member
To me it means reusing the primary components of a previous attraction but changing the theme and or decor and other elements to present a new experience. However inevitably any "overlay" is constrained by technological and physical limitations of the old ride system and or components and thus is arguably handicapped at day one vs a brand new purpose built ride system.
My point in referencing the Halloweentown Overlay in the DLR's HM was to emphasize that from a Disney perspective, overlays are temporary -- each year, DLR converts both their HM and their SM to seasonally themed experiences, then puts them back just like they were after the respective holidays.
 

larryz

I'm Just A Tourist!
Premium Member
Based on how the ride is designed, I don't see that happening unless you have centrifuge A and C "mission to mars" and centrifuge B and D "land on comet" or they drastically change the control software... which would cause its own complications.

The underlying technology to know and control the direction / vector of the G forces imposed on the riders requires very specific inputs and rider positioning to avoid inducing some nasty side effects (e.g., motion sickness/Coriolis illusion / vestibular illusions) adn the rsultant protein spills.

IIRC there are 10 capsules per centrifuge. The way the manufacturer designed it had all the pods on each device move in the same manner - to ensure that the G forces are correctly aligned for the riders. They would all have to have some identical motion.. you can't speed up capsule 1,3,5,7,9 to 3G and 2,4,6,8,10 to only 2G. You can move the capsule in different angles to change the vector direction of the G force and make it feel different...
You could do it if you designed different missions with the same G profiles.
 

GCTales

Well-Known Member
You could do it if you designed different missions with the same G profiles.
you could, but this would require the EXACT same motion at the same time... and a large amount of testing to ensure the visuals are matching the motion....Not something I would want to try on the same motion base.

the situation postulated by someone else earlier - I think different mission on each centrifuge would be preferable over a different mission on each capsule... less complexity (software wise) is preferred over a more complex solution..
 

Coaster Lover

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In the Parks
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Voyages to Pandora (is that even a possibility? I sure hope not)? The timing actually works out really nicely as I'm heading to Orlando July 29th through August 6th... hopefully, the refurb isn't extended and I get to see it fresh out of rehab...
 

MCast

Well-Known Member
Hmm...what do they have in store for us here? Maybe they're replacing the vomit bags to be GOTG themed? One can only hope.
 

Bacon

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