dennis-in-ct
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I just wish the ride was less nauseating. They can cut back on the swaying/rocking motion a bit to make the ride experience more comfortable. Gringotts is exciting and comfortable.
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I just wish the ride was less nauseating. They can cut back on the swaying/rocking motion a bit to make the ride experience more comfortable. Gringotts is exciting and comfortable.
dennis-in-ct
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Our family had a similar comment. Our daughter said “all the experiences felt the same” when we went to WDW for her graduation and did a day at universal.
Anecdotes are anecdotal. A friend of mine said his 7 and 10 year old girls are extremely bored of most of WDW. It's not like MK has a broad range of rides. Boat rides, dark rides, coasters, and a flume. How IOA's experiences all feel the same is a head scratcher, and one easily dismissed based on other biases. MK has FOUR essentially exact duplicate spinner rides!
I can't think of any two rides at IOA that are even remotely similar.
I don't recall "feeling" it, it's just that you see it on the underside of the grill on the table you are under. Could be done with a, wait for it, screen, too.
What can go wrong with it? The two or three small practical effects?
dennis-in-ct
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The comment was said at the studios park - a lot of screens - minions, simpsons, transformers (atfter riding spiderman), twister, Shrek
Trust me - I enjoy universal - both parks.
Disney has more realized environments and varied experiences - they all *feel* different - at universal, the attractions all *felt* the same
This was her college graduation - so it's not a comment from a younger kid
Bleed0range
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I agree the props certainly aren’t up to the Disney level. But they’re not horrible. The way the screens are used in relation to real elements is what I like about it. But yeah the spiders are particularly bad lol.
Compared to what? I don't see Disney doing better on anything except their AAs. I mean, bird on a stick? Dinosaur on a stick? Projections in NRJ? The difference with Potter is it's based on a REAL spider. How many rides at Disney are based on REAL worlds? Outside of the masterpiece Indiana Jones rides, that are 30 years old.
Bleed0range
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Well yeah, their AAs. HP would benefit greatly from something as cool as Hondo is going to be. For an IP like HP, the ride really should have that kind of quality. I wonder if the new Hagrid ride will be any better.
Of course it's going to be better. You'll likely park in front of Hagrid for a while. Having an expensive AA on Forbidden Journey would be a waste, as you go past everything quickly. But the Whomping WIllow is mighty impressive, and doesn't need a strobe light.
Hondo is not even in a ride, he's preshow. Sorta like the Witch at Kong, you know the ride everyone dislikes for screens, yet has an amazing preshow AA. Yet Hondo, a preshow AA for an all screens ride is totally different, because.....
People are so quick to downplay Universal stuff, until they think about what exactly has Disney done better? I still argue Disney does hardly all screen rides lately. Even the worshipped Shanghai Pirates uses, guess what, Screens to set it apart from other Pirates iterations.
I'm interested to see just how much of a part screens are in RotR. The preview videos so far lead me to think they are a BIG part of it.
Like I've said before, Universal could have made Flight of Wizards, using the same tech from Pandora, and it would be panned. Disney makes a ride with a video with no story, a world that you can go on continuous thousand(s) foot swooping drops, and still come out above ground, and it's somehow a masterpiece because it pushes your legs apart a few times.
But MMRR will likely have no AAs. And they'll be deformed if they are.
MadTeacup
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I'm fascinated you're impressed by the Whomping Willow. My first time I rode, I thought it was broken because only the one branch moves. For me, it's not so much the screens that make universal attractions sub-par. It's the lack of a physical connection to integratd them to the real world. Additionally, Universal sucks at telling stories in their newer rides. My first time on Kong, I was so confused that we left all the human characters behind only to hear audio that they somehow survived a seemingly impossible to survive attack. I want to SEE them survive. You argue Flight of Passage has no story. I argue is has multiple small stories that take place throughout a themed attraction much like the Haunted Mansion. There is no way to know if a Universal version of the ride would have been better. It depends on how they would have implemented a story and if they would have included similarly unique special effects. Disney at least tried something new. Universal's last 2 E-ticket equivalents used the exact same boring ride system and between them was the incredibly unoriginal Fallon ride system. Universal has built some great attractions with projectors. Spider used a first-of-it's-kind ride system. The scene where the projected Spidey lands on a physical fire escape that moves beneath him is pure genius. Since then, they have struggled to match Spidey's ability to mesh projections with the physical world. This is the kind of originality I'd like to see again moving forward. This is also the kind of originality I hope to see from MMRR. Unlike you, I expect some fun animatronics to play a part in the attraction.
Bleed0range
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You sound a bit upset and condescending. Yeah, I know Hondo is preshow, but that’s still part of the ride. I’m not arguing that Universal does nothing but screens, I was arguing they don’t and HPFJ was a great combination of screens and props. Someone said the props could be better and I agreed.
MickeyMouse10
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IOA is a far superior park than USF because it has different lands and rides and feels almost Disney like. They didn't go too screen-crazy either for the left and upper sides and instead opted for a coaster and 3 water rides. With just Spiderman as the only screenbased ride until recently.
The layout is better too, with it's version of main street and racetrack pattern. It doesn't feel like you're walking for no reason like I find at it's sister park. Universal seemed like it was rushed out because of Hollywood Studios earlier opening in 89. The front of Studio (Production Central) also isn't very themed and feels like it was a backstage area that they decided at the last moment to make frontstage.
Also Jimmy Fallon... come on.
The layout is better too, with it's version of main street and racetrack pattern. It doesn't feel like you're walking for no reason like I find at it's sister park. Universal seemed like it was rushed out because of Hollywood Studios earlier opening in 89. The front of Studio (Production Central) also isn't very themed and feels like it was a backstage area that they decided at the last moment to make frontstage.
Also Jimmy Fallon... come on.
Rich Brownn
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You have it backwards. Disney's studios was rushed in an effort to block Universal (Its why the used an EPCOT-designed attraction for its flagship).
yensidtlaw1969
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"EPCOT-designed" might be a little too strong a phrase . . . I think the truth is closer to "EPCOT-conceived". The ride that opened at MGM was designed with and for that park as part of that project, despite plucking a concept from a pavilion idea that was bandied about for EPCOT Center.
This.
TJJohn12
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And it would have been even less successful/thematically relevant in EPCOT... but at least we’re back on topic, sort of.
No Name
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I liked Forbidden Journey back in the day because at one point in the ride my feet would come in significant contact with fake foliage and my legs aren’t unusually long by any means. You never really feel the danger you’re supposed to feel on a theme park ride because you know it’s just a ride, but they managed to take that sense of safety away. It was highly immersive. Today the ride just isn’t the same.
I hope MMRR provides a similar sense of immersion.
I hope MMRR provides a similar sense of immersion.
Rich Brownn
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No, it didn't spring into full being from just an idea. The Entertainment Pavilion was well along when it was shunted.