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Mickey and Minnie's Runaway Railway confirmed

DoubleJ21

Well-Known Member
Finally got a chance to watch some of the new Mickey shorts, honestly they're pretty great, not sure why I had so many grievances upon the fact that they were using the new character designs for the ride. Should be interesting to see what they cook up.
In particular, I'm curious to see what the animatronic Mickey and Minnie look like and how they will envision the characters in three dimensions instead of the 2D we've seen them in the shorts.
 
It remains to be seen whether the design/effects of the animatronics is part of the “2 1/2 D” thing.

Also, it’a noteworthy that @lentesta/TouringPlans lists it as a “major attraction” (third tier, behind “headliner” and “super headliner”). I wonder if that’s an error, or just them being conservative with their predictions?
 

lentesta

Well-Known Member
It remains to be seen whether the design/effects of the animatronics is part of the “2 1/2 D” thing.

Also, it’a noteworthy that @lentesta/TouringPlans lists it as a “major attraction” (third tier, behind “headliner” and “super headliner”). I wonder if that’s an error, or just them being conservative with their predictions?
I will be surprised if it’s not a headliner. But you never know what kind of ride you’ll get from current management.
 
It remains to be seen whether the design/effects of the animatronics is part of the “2 1/2 D” thing.

Also, it’a noteworthy that @lentesta/TouringPlans lists it as a “major attraction” (third tier, behind “headliner” and “super headliner”). I wonder if that’s an error, or just them being conservative with their predictions?
It's really a super headliner. If it was opening in a year with nothing else, it would likely be right up there. However...
 

MisterPenguin

Rumormonger
Premium Member
It remains to be seen whether the design/effects of the animatronics is part of the “2 1/2 D” thing.

Also, it’a noteworthy that @lentesta/TouringPlans lists it as a “major attraction” (third tier, behind “headliner” and “super headliner”). I wonder if that’s an error, or just them being conservative with their predictions?
From what our insiders who've seen the specs have said, then Len is way off.

Going by their excitement the tiers would be:
1. Class by itself, Super E+ (Super Headliner): RotR​
2. Super Es (Headliners): SWSR, MMRR, ToT​
3. Regular Es (Major Attractions): F!, Indy Stunt Show, RnRC, Star Tours​
4. Ds (Minor Attractions): the projections shows with their now greatly reduced fireworks, TSM, MV3D, Frozen Singalong, Ariel show, BatB show, Slinky​
5. Cs (Diversions): Launch Bay, M&Gs, Jedi Academy, Saucers, SW Stage Show, SW First Order March, WD Presents​

Of course, such divisions can get rather subjective whether something belongs one step up or down. Problem is that Len only has four levels above 'Diversions' and DHS is going to have a whole bunch of E-Ticket rides that invite further classification.
 

TJ Vazquez

Well-Known Member
From what our insiders who've seen the specs have said, then Len is way off.

Going by their excitement the tiers would be:
1. Class by itself, Super E+ (Super Headliner): RotR​
2. Super Es (Headliners): SWSR, MMRR, ToT​
3. Regular Es (Major Attractions): F!, Indy Stunt Show, RnRC, Star Tours​
4. Ds (Minor Attractions): the projections shows with their now greatly reduced fireworks, TSM, MV3D, Frozen Singalong, Ariel show, BatB show, Slinky​
5. Cs (Diversions): Launch Bay, M&Gs, Jedi Academy, Saucers, SW Stage Show, SW First Order March, WD Presents​

Of course, such divisions can get rather subjective whether something belongs one step up or down. Problem is that Len only has four levels above 'Diversions' and DHS is going to have a whole bunch of E-Ticket rides that invite further classification.
Spot on. In my simpleton mind, it sounds like this one will be Super Headliner when opened, but will likely fall to a Headliner when SW:GE opens shortly after.
 
From what our insiders who've seen the specs have said, then Len is way off.

Going by their excitement the tiers would be:
1. Class by itself, Super E+ (Super Headliner): RotR​
2. Super Es (Headliners): SWSR, MMRR, ToT​
3. Regular Es (Major Attractions): F!, Indy Stunt Show, RnRC, Star Tours​
4. Ds (Minor Attractions): the projections shows with their now greatly reduced fireworks, TSM, MV3D, Frozen Singalong, Ariel show, BatB show, Slinky​
5. Cs (Diversions): Launch Bay, M&Gs, Jedi Academy, Saucers, SW Stage Show, SW First Order March, WD Presents​

Of course, such divisions can get rather subjective whether something belongs one step up or down. Problem is that Len only has four levels above 'Diversions' and DHS is going to have a whole bunch of E-Ticket rides that invite further classification.
I wonder if we should start using F and G tickets instead of Super E and Super E+, after all Disneyland opened with A-D and added E later.
 

dmw

Well-Known Member
Why do we need more than 6?
E+: Defies Categorization
E: Super Headliner
D: Headliner
C: Major Attraction
B: Minor Attraction
A: Diversion
How many others who follow pro cycling immediately thought of HC when reading the "Defies Categorization"? :p
For those who don't follow pro cycling (ie Tour de France), hills in cycling road races are categorized on a scale of 1-4, with 4 being the easiest and 1 the hardest. Then, HC (French abbreviation for Hors catégorie ) for any hills deemed more difficult than a 1 and thus beyond categorization.
 
From what our insiders who've seen the specs have said, then Len is way off.

Going by their excitement the tiers would be:
1. Class by itself, Super E+ (Super Headliner): RotR​
2. Super Es (Headliners): SWSR, MMRR, ToT​
3. Regular Es (Major Attractions): F!, Indy Stunt Show, RnRC, Star Tours​
4. Ds (Minor Attractions): the projections shows with their now greatly reduced fireworks, TSM, MV3D, Frozen Singalong, Ariel show, BatB show, Slinky​
5. Cs (Diversions): Launch Bay, M&Gs, Jedi Academy, Saucers, SW Stage Show, SW First Order March, WD Presents​

Of course, such divisions can get rather subjective whether something belongs one step up or down. Problem is that Len only has four levels above 'Diversions' and DHS is going to have a whole bunch of E-Ticket rides that invite further classification.
Based on this categorization, what else would be considered a "Super E+"? Would it only be Shanghai's Pirates of the Caribbean so far? I recall our insiders (I think it was Martin, but not sure) comparing RotR to PotC Shanghai in scale and spectacle. I had the good fortune to ride PotC Shanghai in 2016, and while it was indeed a spectacular attraction and a tremendous feat of Imagineering, I'm not certain that I would put in a "class by itself" (but again, that doesn't exclude it from being a wonderful attraction).
 

MisterPenguin

Rumormonger
Premium Member
Based on this categorization, what else would be considered a "Super E+"? Would it only be Shanghai's Pirates of the Caribbean so far? I recall our insiders (I think it was Martin, but not sure) comparing RotR to PotC Shanghai in scale and spectacle. I had the good fortune to ride PotC Shanghai in 2016, and while it was indeed a spectacular attraction and a tremendous feat of Imagineering, I'm not certain that I would put in a "class by itself" (but again, that doesn't exclude it from being a wonderful attraction).
I would agree to that.
 

kurtk

Active Member
It will be interesting to see if 2 of the new attractions live up to the hype above. Most people (myself included) seem to be looking forward to SWSR more than RotR. I know this is based on just rumors and the little that has been released from Disney but RotR is really going to have to be something to be rated that high. The show cars don't look that great and they don't look like they were made for speed or any fast motion. I know there will be life-sized AT AT's but how much of it is going to be projection screens. Will they have live cast members?

Likewise, the subject of this thread, MMRR doesn't seem to be on par with ToT. It looks fun but hard to believe it will be that great. This one is projections and screens screens.

I really do hope I am surprised and Disney ups the game that much.
 
Based on this categorization, what else would be considered a "Super E+"? Would it only be Shanghai's Pirates of the Caribbean so far? I recall our insiders (I think it was Martin, but not sure) comparing RotR to PotC Shanghai in scale and spectacle. I had the good fortune to ride PotC Shanghai in 2016, and while it was indeed a spectacular attraction and a tremendous feat of Imagineering, I'm not certain that I would put in a "class by itself" (but again, that doesn't exclude it from being a wonderful attraction).
While not quite as large in scale I think I’d place rides like Splash, Everest, Tower, IJA, and maybe even Pirates and Mansion in that category too. Just rides that tell a story great or have lager than life immersive set pieces.
 
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