mickEblu
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Ah shoot. I was hoping the word “estimate” would help my cause.
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Ah shoot. I was hoping the word “estimate” would help my cause.
DisneyRoy
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Pretty sure those ride systems are cloned...better known as Dinosaur and Test Track.
Mike S
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If that was a legitimate problem no omnimover would’ve been built post Haunted Mansion.
Movielover
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Mike S
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I think they’re talking about being cloned at WDW specifically.
ppete1975
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Cars land would have been huge in florida. Should have happened years ago, I also wonder if you could build it with 4 cars side by side instead of 2 to increase the capacity a bit. But I really don't see it ever happening, which is a shame.
Timothy_Q
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The ride would just look like a giant freeway.
There would be no space for any theming around the tracks to make it feel like you're driving through the desert
GlacierGlacier
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Tomorrowland Speedway 2
MrPromey
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I'm guessing you haven't been on these attractions at both WDW and Disneyland.
in Marni's defense, a lot of these are similar but not the same and some are very different.
As a few examples, Space Mountain is an entirely different kind of rollercoaster, Splash Mountain uses a different ride system, People mover, different ride system and different experience, etc.. Then you go into things like Small World which has the same theme and overall ride idea but the DL has an outside element and the boats travel through a flume like ride system rather than the open-water-like one at WDW... and Pirates for which DL has a much longer ride, Tiki Room much more elaborately built out at DL, Toad having two different track layouts in WDW with different experiences vs one, etc...
Clone specificaly suggets a duplicate ride and none of these really were for a number of reasons. I'm assuming you didn't include ToT because you know the WDW version is very different from all the rest and that's kind of what it is in this situation.
I can understand why saying WDW's Haunted Mansion is a clone of DL's even though there are a few small differences or to a degree, the same with Thunder Mountain and a few others but having done all of these attractions on both coasts, I can understand why Marni would say what he said in questioning the term "clone" to describe them.
When there is a different story or entirely different ride design, it's hard to consider it a clone and for the purposes of this discussion where people are specifically talking about a unique experience being housed in the central location of a park vs. something that Disney is cost-cutting by spreading out the development and ride design for across multiple parks, I agree with those who aren't seeing things your way.
In fact, the fact that so many attractions between DL and WDW (and other parks around the world) that share the same name offer different experiences, is one of the cool things about visiting different ones to have an experience that is unique and new but also familiar.
I think it's fine for there to be two identical or near identical attractions across parks but in the obvious major central locations like this one, and like say, Spaceship Earth, it feels (to me and many others, at least) like they ought to be unique.
I think that's all anyone is disagreeing with you on, here - no hard feelings.
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trainplane3
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Looks like external work is complete:
http://blogmickey.com/2018/11/photos-chinese-theater-courtyard-work-completed/
The former entrance to The Great Movie Ride has been closed off, with an apparently new entrance appearing nearby.
http://blogmickey.com/2018/11/photos-chinese-theater-courtyard-work-completed/
The former entrance to The Great Movie Ride has been closed off, with an apparently new entrance appearing nearby.
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aladdin2007
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Is the rock waterfall with plants still there in the corner? I forget if it was the left side or right.
Marc Davis Fan
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Do we have an idea of how much queue space there will be? If there isn't sufficient indoor queue space, will the queue spill out into the front of the building. It wouldn't look good for the physical/visual centerpiece of the park to have a giant queue of people right in front of it...
Timothy_Q
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Have you seen Spaceship Earth?
Goofyernmost
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There are a number of people that you can ask for a definition of Clone and you will get different answers from everyone. I do not put ride system in that definition. If the attractions is a water ride then it is a water ride and the show scenes are basically the same. People here have issues if an attraction uses the same ride system with a different story because they consider it a clone. As if there can even possibly be a different ride system for every attraction that exists.
The Cars ride was talked against because it was the same ride system as Test Track, yet at one time there were 5 omni mover rides in Future World of the original EPCOT alone. No problem with the ride system on that one. And then there was Energy and over in MGM the GMR was basically the same ride system... no problem there. I don't even remember anymore the ones that I called a clone, but, all I used for identity was that same title, the same story (with some changes) and basically the same thing with show or ride vehicle. However, Cars and Test are completely different stories. Energy and GMR were completely different stories. They were not clones. They are simply attractions that share the same ride system technology.
Tiki Room in DL is exactly what it was in WDW until many years later they made some changes in the WDW show, however, it was the same attraction. Pirates was the same scene the same ride system and the same story, but, the beginning was more a New Orleans setting and it was in the New Orleans section. The beginning of the ride transitioned into the same Pirates ride with a couple of missing or different scenes. The idea was cloned in WDW after the one in DL.
Everyone is the same IP between DL and WDW. If a very large portion of it is the same story and concept then it is a clone in my book and along the lines of attractions in a theme park. I think clones are good especially if they are more then 1000 miles apart, to deny those, that for whatever reason, of enjoying a ride because it already exist 3000 miles or an ocean away, are just selfish and unreasonable. In the theme park world it is a good thing. If it is loved on the West coast it will probably be loved on the East coast. In my travels the one clone that stood out to me was Soarin. I had first seen it in DL and it was a walk on. I then went to the one in Epcot and the line was unbelievable and has remained that way to the point that they needed to add another theater. To have denied that particular clone would have been unfair to WDW guests. It was actually more popular as a clone then the original was. I see no problem in that.
wdizneew
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Technically, the queue for SSE is under the ball and the front of the ball is just a concrete graveyard with massive tombstones
Technically less than there used to be. The original indoor theatre queue area will become two separate and alternate preshow rooms.
J. D.
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Yep.
NormC
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He was just checking to see if us kids were having a fun time.
Goofyernmost
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I don't, I was just trolling for the passive aggressive. Guess I hooked one. Unlike you and others at least I try to explain my thoughts. You guys just dismiss others and attempt to belittle and contradict just for the sake of contradicting.