Mickey and Minnie's Runaway Railway confirmed

AEfx

Well-Known Member
Normally, I don't have a problem with clones. I expect them, I think the general public expects similar attractions on both coasts, and I understand the more cost-effective nature of them. I don't find it a "dirty word" at all.

That said - I really was disappointed to hear that the same thing is going into Disneyland, because we lost one of the most unique attractions in the world, what was once (and arguably, still was) the flagship attraction of the Studios - for something that is now just another Disney ride. That such a special location is going to be the home of the same attraction that is being shoved in the backside of Disneyland's Toontown is just depressing.
 

Goofyernmost

Well-Known Member
Normally, I don't have a problem with clones. I expect them, I think the general public expects similar attractions on both coasts, and I understand the more cost-effective nature of them. I don't find it a "dirty word" at all.

That said - I really was disappointed to hear that the same thing is going into Disneyland, because we lost one of the most unique attractions in the world, what was once (and arguably, still was) the flagship attraction of the Studios - for something that is now just another Disney ride. That such a special location is going to be the home of the same attraction that is being shoved in the backside of Disneyland's Toontown is just depressing.
Well, you might be getting a little dramatic about that. Disney history is loaded with memorable and wonderful attractions that were built on both coasts. Without the cloning factor WDW wouldn't have had Pirates, Space Mountain, Thunder mountain, Tiki Room, Peter Pan, Small World, Jungle Cruise, County Bears, Haunted Mansion, Dumbo, People Mover, at one point, Mr. Toad and many others. I'm not sure who had Splash Mountain first... but because of cloning we both have it. Their existence takes nothing away for either. All were unique attractions when first introduced and this new one still began in DHS. It will always and forever be known to have originated in WDW. DHS is going to have enough crowding in a few months so one of the last things it needs is a whole group of West Coasters making special trips as well. (Which is probably one of the incentives for them to build SWL in both locations.) If that and SWL are successes on both coasts, the chances are we will see many more clones in the future. I truly was hoping for a Cars Land to be in Florida as well, but, that one didn't make the cut.
 

AEfx

Well-Known Member
Well, you might be getting a little dramatic about that.

Why am I not surprised you would argue with me about this...LOL.

I specifically said that I basically love clones. I defend them all the time. So your little lecture was really unnecessary.

My personal feelings, as I succinctly stated, are based upon the fact that we lost such a major, unique ride in the most prominent area of the park for a ride that apparently is not as special or appropriate to the location that it was originally thought to be.

That is all.
 

Goofyernmost

Well-Known Member
Why am I not surprised you would argue with me about this...LOL.

I specifically said that I basically love clones. I defend them all the time. So your little lecture was really unnecessary.

My personal feelings, as I succinctly stated, are based upon the fact that we lost such a major, unique ride in the most prominent area of the park for a ride that apparently is not as special or appropriate to the location that it was originally thought to be.

That is all.
I'm not arguing with you about anything, except to say I don't see why it is a disappointment that it won't only be in WDW. You said you were disappointed and I don't understand why. It doesn't take away from it because it is also be someplace else, in my opinion, and that I don't think it is a detriment. Try and understand the difference between expressing an opposing opinion and an argument. I just don't see why an attractions with Mickey Mouse, as the central theme, can ever be inappropriate in any Disney Park. Seems like I read someplace that "it all started with a mouse".
 

LukeS7

Well-Known Member
So you were critical of the site for reporting something that you believe IS happening... ok. I don't get the constant animosity, I guess. I understand that it's a thing here, but it strikes me as a bit much when they're RIGHT.
The animosity doesn't really come from them being right or wrong, but more so their general attitude, including lack of crediting sources (when applicable), as well as the constant patting on the back (choose a handful of articles, several will start with some variation of "As we told you back in [insert date here]" with a link to their old article). Add to that their seeming need to always be right and it just reads as sloppy reporting quite a bit of the time. Just my 2 cents.

Tl;dr: It's not so much about what they're reporting as it is how they're reporting
 

AEfx

Well-Known Member
I'm not arguing with you about anything, except to say I don't see why it is a disappointment that it won't only be in WDW. You said you were disappointed and I don't understand why. It doesn't take away from it because it is also be someplace else, in my opinion, and that I don't think it is a detriment.

Because it is replacing a highly unique, only-one-in-the-world flagship attraction.

I don't know how to put it any more simply for you.
 

Goofyernmost

Well-Known Member
Are you talking about the RR or GMR. I'm talking about cloning not exact location of the clone. GMR was no longer a flagship attraction, it was dead. The last few years I saw it there was never more then one train in use. It lost it's flagship draw years ago.

As far as whether or not having Runaway in more then one place, my opinion, as opposed to yours, is that it really doesn't take away from it at all. I am not necessarily representative of the entire public, but, personally if they had built it just in DL, I would never had crossed the country to see it. That is probably why I don't see anything disappointing about it. PS... I have no underlying desire to change your opinion. My only reason for posting was to express my opinion on the subject. This is still a discussion board isn't it? I don't think I can express it any more simple for you.
 

ToTBellHop

Well-Known Member
Why am I not surprised you would argue with me about this...LOL.

I specifically said that I basically love clones. I defend them all the time. So your little lecture was really unnecessary.

My personal feelings, as I succinctly stated, are based upon the fact that we lost such a major, unique ride in the most prominent area of the park for a ride that apparently is not as special or appropriate to the location that it was originally thought to be.

That is all.
Agreed. As many of us have said all along, it could have and should have replaced Launch Bay. They could have erected a temporary Star Wars experience until Batuu opens elsewhere (like they did some years for Darth's Maul. By the way, remember Star Wars Weekends???).
 

marni1971

Park History nut
Premium Member
Well, you might be getting a little dramatic about that. Disney history is loaded with memorable and wonderful attractions that were built on both coasts. Without the cloning factor WDW wouldn't have had Pirates, Space Mountain, Thunder mountain, Tiki Room, Peter Pan, Small World, Jungle Cruise, County Bears, Haunted Mansion, Dumbo, People Mover, at one point, Mr. Toad and many others. I'm not sure who had Splash Mountain first..
In all fairness most of that list aren’t clones as such.
 

AEfx

Well-Known Member
Are you talking about the RR or GMR. I'm talking about cloning not exact location of the clone.

If you had read my original posting you would know the answer to this and wouldn't be asking me to explain it, again. It is ALL ABOUT the location.

As far as whether or not having Runaway in more then one place, my opinion, as opposed to yours, is that it really doesn't take away from it at all.

And you have just proven that you haven't even read my opinion, because I LOVE CLONES. I defend them quite often. However, in this specific case, I don't care for it because of the specific location.
 

Spash007

Well-Known Member
My biggest issue with them duplicating this ride is the location in DHS. I cannot understand why the Chinese Theater is not the icon for the park - I know it's not the tallest attraction, but between the location and the unique nature of it makes gives it icon status. To put a duplicate ride in an icon is just wrong, especially into something as unique as the Chinese Theater.
 

danlb_2000

Premium Member
My biggest issue with them duplicating this ride is the location in DHS. I cannot understand why the Chinese Theater is not the icon for the park - I know it's not the tallest attraction, but between the location and the unique nature of it makes gives it icon status. To put a duplicate ride in an icon is just wrong, especially into something as unique as the Chinese Theater.

They did the same thing with It's Tough to be a Bug, although that's not an issue anymore since the DCA one has closed.
 

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