Mickey and Minnie's Runaway Railway confirmed

[No Name]

Attractions rarely have little to no guests boarding. Remember that unless the line is physically empty, there are people boarding the ride at a constant rate. So regardless of whether, say, Spaceship Earth has a 20 minute wait or a 20 hour wait one afternoon, the same number of people get to ride in that period of time.

I really think it depends on the pre-show. Some are amazing and add to the story. Others get repetitive, off the top of my head.
MK:
Tiki Room : Good!
Haunted Mansion: Good!
Stitch (RIP): Good!
COP?(Kinda): Good!

Epcot:
Mission Space: Bad
Test Track v1: Bad
Test Track v2: Good (I like building cars)
Ellen's Energy: OK
Soarin': OK
The Living Seas (no Nemo): Good

Hollywood Studios:
Muppets: OK
Back lot Tour (Water Tank): Good
Rock n' Rollercoaster: OK
Tower of Terror: Good

Animal Kingdom:
FOP: OK
Dinosaur: Ok to Bad

I'm sure I missed a ton though.

The original Test Track preshow was one of the greatest works produced by mankind. How dare you speak poorly of it?

 

[ParksAndPixels]

You lost me when you said the Muppets preshow was just “OK.” That will forever be the greatest preshow at Disney and I refuse to queue up until I can watch the preshow video from the beginning.

My favorite park quote: “Tourists, what do they know...”

Also, the Dinosaur pre-show would be vastly improved simply by improving the projection quality/ brightness and perhaps light theming in the room. The rest of that queue is well themed and it just stops in the preshow room.

 

[180º]

My favorite park quote: “Tourists, what do they know...”

Also, the Dinosaur pre-show would be vastly improved simply by improving the projection quality/ brightness and perhaps light theming in the room. The rest of that queue is well themed and it just stops in the preshow room.

I know it’s highly convenient, but the hokey projector set up in the blank room is totally like something you’d find in a museum, or someplace where the visitor’s center is an afterthought. It sets up for an amazing contrast to to lavish, intensely vivid load area and the sensory overload of a ride to come. I find the preshow both humorous and dramatically effective on many levels.

 

[ParksAndPixels]

I know it’s highly convenient, but the hokey projector set up in the blank room is totally like something you’d find in a museum, or someplace where the visitor’s center is an afterthought. It sets up for an amazing contrast to to lavish, intensely vivid load area and the sensory overload of a ride to come. I find the preshow both humorous and dramatically effective on many levels.

When attraction first opened, it didn’t annoy me because the image looked good. Now due to lack of maintenance on the projector/ bulbs the preshow is almost lost. Even though I’ve seen it numerous times, people are always talking and ignoring what is happening. When it gets to that point, it’s time to act.

 

[marni1971]

I feel like attendance wasn't the only factor... wouldn't a CM have to spiel on each ride vehicle? I can only imagine how the area might have been impacted running a fully staffed attraction like that with little to no guests boarding... MMRR won't have that issue as they'll probably only require dispatch and unload positions inside the attraction..

Cost was the reason GMR closed. Cost of running it and the cost of the work that was needed.

 

[peter11435]

My favorite park quote: “Tourists, what do they know...”

Also, the Dinosaur pre-show would be vastly improved simply by improving the projection quality/ brightness and perhaps light theming in the room. The rest of that queue is well themed and it just stops in the preshow room.

The lack of theme and detail in the preshow rooms is the theme. It’s very typical of museum/exhibit presentation rooms.

The projectors need work.

 

[LittleBuford]

Cost was the reason GMR closed. Cost of running it and the cost of the work that was needed.

But would it have closed if it had been super popular?

 

[marni1971]

But would it have closed if it had been super popular?

If in their minds something else can be as popular, cost much less to run, and come in around the same price as the GMR update would have cost, it makes perfect business sense.

GMR was popular. It was suffering in the satisfaction surveys for having dated content. I forget the figures but the attraction had a high utilisation but a low %excel score.

They just can’t see off the spreadsheet to the lack of overall park capacity.

 

[LittleBuford]

If in their minds something else can be as popular, cost much less to run, and come in around the same price as the GMR update would have cost, it makes perfect business sense.

GMR was popular. It was suffering in the satisfaction surveys for having dated content. I forget the figures but the attraction had a high utilisation but a low %excel score.

They just can’t see off the spreadsheet to the lack of overall park capacity.

Thanks for your answer. The middle paragraph (about the satisfaction surveys) sums up what I mean about the ride not being super popular. It seems unlikely to me that they would have replaced it had the numbers been healthier.

 

[marni1971]

Thanks for your answer. The middle paragraph (about the satisfaction surveys) sums up what I mean about the ride not being super popular. It seems unlikely to me that they would have replaced it had the numbers been healthier.

Again, it came to money. GMR need so much work. The sets were old. Some of the IP dated. The travelling theatres were shot. The audio and lighting was life expired. Why spend 200 million fixing the problems, when they could spend the same money on a new, highly marketable ride that will need a tenth of the manpower and have far less physical maintenance budgets.

GMR was pulling more utilisation than say Small World or Jungle Cruise.

Much like Imagination they got rid of the pesky items that cost so much to maintain and fix.

 

[The Empress Lilly]

They just can’t see off the spreadsheet to the lack of overall park capacity.

Nor to the overall park-wide artistic effect.

DHS without the GMR feels like the MK without Fantasyland. DHS needs the immersion into classic movies and scenes and actors. TGMR was the last bastion that provided that. DHS needs that the way the MK needs the immersion into classic animation movies and scenes and characters that FL provides.

When I walk DHS now I feel like I did for months after I had quit smoking. Something was just missing. The enjoyment is not there, replaced by a vague emptiness.

 

[solidyne]

The lack of theme and detail in the preshow rooms is the theme. It’s very typical of museum/exhibit presentation rooms [...]

The lack of theme and detail in Dino-Rama is the theme. It's very typical of dumpy roadside carnivals.

 

[jt04]

The lack of theme and detail in Dino-Rama is the theme. It's very typical of dumpy roadside carnivals.

I think it is great in that aspect. It is just in the wrong land imo. I have the same complaint about Circustopia being part of Fantasyland.

 

[ᗩLᘿᑕ ✨ ᗩζᗩᗰ]

The lack of theme and detail in Dino-Rama is the theme. It's very typical of dumpy roadside carnivals.

Except it isn't. The visuals were not taken far enough to be satirical or embellished enough to embody the dumpy charm of those classic roadside attractions. As a result the land looks more like a cheaply built theme park land and less like the primitive, quirky, shoddy roadside carnival aesthetic of the 50s & 60s they were attempting to reproduce. This mismatch would be even more apparent had Imagineering plopped down the original Excavator coaster with it's rusty junkyard dino sculptures amongst the rest of Dino-Rama's pristine, vibrant and exceptionally toonifed visuals.

 

[180º]

The lack of theme and detail in Dino-Rama is the theme. It's very typical of dumpy roadside carnivals.

Haha, good point. I’d argue that the key difference here is Dino-Rama has no payoff to its dumpy theme. Dinosaur’s hokey preshow is the set up for a satisfying contrast to follow.

But let’s do replace the projectors!

 

[peter11435]

The lack of theme and detail in Dino-Rama is the theme. It's very typical of dumpy roadside carnivals.

Well... yes actually.

 

[Goofyernmost]

Well... yes actually.

Which is, I believe, exactly what they were aiming for. Good job Joe!

 

[TP2000]

Looks like external work is complete:
http://blogmickey.com/2018/11/photos-chinese-theater-courtyard-work-completed/

The former entrance to The Great Movie Ride has been closed off, with an apparently new entrance appearing nearby.

The place will be mobbed for years to come, so why not have the queue enter through the main entrance doors? It's such a grand way to go in, instead of shuttling in through a side door off the courtyard. It would give the vibe of the original theater, which always has a big crowd in front also.

Or is it such that the new pre-show area can only be accessed via the side door?

 

[marni1971]

The place will be mobbed for years to come, so why not have the queue enter through the main entrance doors? It's such a grand way to go in, instead of shuttling in through a side door off the courtyard. It would give the vibe of the original theater, which always has a big crowd in front also.

Or is it such that the new pre-show area can only be accessed via the side door?

As before the original entrance is reserved for fatpass.

 

[ᗩLᘿᑕ ✨ ᗩζᗩᗰ]

As before the original entrance is reserved for fatpass.

is that because the doors are wider?