Mickey and Minnie's Runaway Railway confirmed

[Rodan75]

"Mickey makes so many ugly faces in the new shorts "

It's called pushing expressiveness. One of the characteristics of good animation
These are all from within the same 1 minute of a single short of the "real mickey"

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It wasn't that long ago that the CGI 3-D animated model of Mickey was also seen as heresy. 'Classic' is an every changing frame of reference.

If the ride is as good as is rumored, then most people will quickly embrace this version. If it sucks, then the pitchforks will be back.

Look at the journey of the Pandora thread, or for a shorter read, look at the Winnie the Pooh live action thread.

 

[MisterPenguin]

"Mickey makes so many ugly faces in the new shorts "

It's called pushing expressiveness. One of the characteristics of good animation
These are all from within the same 1 minute of a single short of the "real mickey"

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Those are so ugly and grotesque. That stretched neck makes me want to gag. Whoever was the animator that approved that should be fired and never allowed to do anything in animation ever again!!!

 

[Timothy_Q]

Those are so ugly and grotesque. That stretched neck makes me want to gag. Whoever was the animator that approved that should be fired and never allowed to do anything in animation ever again!!!

IT LOOKS LIKE REN & STIMPY!!!!

 

[smile]

"Mickey makes so many ugly faces in the new shorts "

It's called pushing expressiveness. One of the characteristics of good animation
These are all from within the same 1 minute of a single short of the "real mickey":

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'prehistoric mickey' stuff?... srsly, congrats on combing thru the b&w's to find this one minute
- if there weren't later, ever more refined mickey's leading to one that pops kinda locked in, that might actually make some sense to introduce.

It wasn't that long ago that the CGI 3-D animated model of Mickey was also seen as heresy. 'Classic' is an every changing frame of reference.

If the ride is as good as is rumored, then most people will quickly embrace this version. If it sucks, then the pitchforks will be back.

Look at the journey of the Pandora thread, or for a shorter read, look at the Winnie the Pooh live action thread.

it's wise to risk using a style some may consider cheap or lacking when you could have used the established one we all know everybody loves, which has proven to be lasting thru generations?
don't think there's any possible way this attraction would have been harmed using 'classic' mickey... which leads me to wondering 'why?'

also, i appreciate respect for fact it's a daring, fresh, and new choice, but still would have highly preferred the mickey walt left us with, if for no other reason
- so, i suppose, also consider my stance a rejection to what i view as continued un-walting... which, i'll admit, is a fools errand

do think it's important, however, that whenever one might find themselves conceptually at odds, they retain the ability to allow themselves to still enjoy an attraction/land on it's own, for what it is, even if it may lessen their overall impact -

i approach fop and nrj in such a way

IT LOOKS LIKE REN & STIMPY!!!!

have you ever even seen ren and stimpy?
the notion there wasn't influence on the new shorts is absurd.

 

[Timothy_Q]

'prehistoric mickey' stuff?... srsly, congrats on combing thru the b&w's to find this one minute

LOL now you want to discredit 1930's Mickey (aka the decade with by far the most Mickey productions) as "prehistoric"?

That is hilarious

 

[smile]

LOL now you want to discredit 1930's Mickey (aka the decade with by far the most Mickey productions) as "prehistoric"?

That is hilarious

hyperbole, of course - what i mean by that is a mickey before he was refined by the creator...
well, one of the creators, anyway ... which, to come full circle, is also one of the reasons he was so far removed from those early mickey's - distancing from ub

 

[TJJohn12]

also, i appreciate respect for fact it's a daring, fresh, and new choice, but still would have highly preferred the mickey walt left us with, if for no other reason

Walt left Mickey himself behind. The last Mickey short - The Simple Things - was released in 1953, a full 13 years before his death. Mickey didn't hit the screen again until 1983, another 17 years later. And even the 1953 Mickey was very much off model from what we might expect from the corporate Mickey that graces resort drink cups, for instance:

The 1953 Mickey used in The Simple Things (and ostensibly) Walt approved actually looks like something you'd find on a bad t-shirt out on I Drive.

It's also worth remembering that Walt approved these nightmares too:

What I'm saying is that a personal preference for any one Mickey is like how we view any other art - personally.

 

[ToTBellHop]

I'm sure you've said this before, but do you know about how long this ride going to be?

I would ballpark 7 min. Based upon my understanding of the basic plot and scene list. I have not had adequate access to ride schematics to measure ride path and I don’t know ride vehicle speed to give anything more precise.

It should feel luxuriously long by today’s standards as long as we can forget what was there before...

 

[doctornick]

Using Transformers as comparison to a “knock your socks off” E-ticket is disheartening to say the least.

Why? I mean, I'm not a fan of Transformers at all, but Martin was talking about the ride mechanics and it is high quality in that department. I mean, Spider-Man is basically the same type of ride and has a good argument for being the best ride in the Orlando area. It's execution that is key and that's where IMHO Transformers fails. It's too frantic with indistinct scenes and characters and such to be an effective ride.

But in terms of how show scenes are set up in Transformers, I think there's good potential for a top notch ride using similar techniques.

 

[flynnibus]

Walt left Mickey himself behind. The last Mickey short - The Simple Things - was released in 1953, a full 13 years before his death

Meh... Disney was notorious for his pivots in attention and virtually ignoring the old stuff. By that time, he hadn't just left Mickey shorts behind.. he had left all animation behind for a long time (never mind the Shorts being culled themselves due to the changing market) and had already phased past his Live Action stuff too. By this era in the company, Walt was virtually rouge... which is how he started WDI/WED to house and incubate his Disneyland vision.

 

[Timothy_Q]

Meh... Disney was notorious for his pivots in attention and virtually ignoring the old stuff. By that time, he hadn't just left Mickey shorts behind.. he had left all animation behind for a long time (never mind the Shorts being culled themselves due to the changing market) and had already phased past his Live Action stuff too. By this era in the company, Walt was virtually rouge... which is how he started WDI/WED to house and incubate his Disneyland vision.

So, 1930s Mickey doesn’t count because it’s prehistoric and unpolished, 1950s Mickey doesn’t count because Walt had already abandoned animation, and 2013 Mickey is cheap and an insult to the “real Mickey”.

Maybe you guys just don’t like Mickey

 

[flynnibus]

So, 1930s Mickey doesn’t count because it’s prehistoric and unpolished, 1950s Mickey doesn’t count because Walt had already abandoned animation, and 2013 Mickey is cheap and an insult to the “real Mickey”.

Maybe you guys just don’t like Mickey

My post debunked the cite being made.. not supported it. Mickey was still very prominent... just his last short really is not relevant to the discussion.

 

[Kram Sacul]

So we're really still arguing about the whole Mickey thing. Good. The shorts are cute but the art style is still trash. Fortunately the actual attraction has more going for it.

 

[Disneyhead'71]

So we're really still arguing about the whole Mickey thing. Good. The shorts are cute but the art style is still trash. Fortunately the actual attraction has more going for it.

"Art style". Hmmm.

"Art".

Do you guys really want art? Or do you just want to wallow in "the brand"?

 

[marni1971]

I would ballpark 7 min. Based upon my understanding of the basic plot and scene list. I have not had adequate access to ride schematics to measure ride path and I don’t know ride vehicle speed to give anything more precise.

It should feel luxuriously long by today’s standards as long as we can forget what was there before...

Don’t forget RVs will stop, start, change direction and.... play.

 

[MisterPenguin]

Don’t forget RVs will stop, start, change direction and.... play.

Just like Antarctica Empire of the Penguin!

Oh, wait..

 

[MisterPenguin]

"Art style". Hmmm.

"Art".

Do you guys really want art? Or do you just want to wallow in "the brand"?

But it's "comfort brand." After listening to 12 tone operas and attending performance art in a sweatshop, it's nice to wallow in it.

 

[Movielover]

Meh... Disney was notorious for his pivots in attention and virtually ignoring the old stuff. By that time, he hadn't just left Mickey shorts behind.. he had left all animation behind for a long time (never mind the Shorts being culled themselves due to the changing market) and had already phased past his Live Action stuff too. By this era in the company, Walt was virtually rouge... which is how he started WDI/WED to house and incubate his Disneyland vision.

So by that same logic we should only be embracing the new style of Mickey since that is what the Studio has "moved on" to use in current production. You can't just pick and say what to ignore based on personal preference.

Also I guess we finally know what happened at DHS that knocked out the Cooling the other day...

 

[smile]

Don’t forget RVs will stop, start, change direction and.... play.

play is a uniquely adaptive act, not subordinate to some other adaptive act, but with a special function of its own in human experience

 

[Princess Leia]

Walt left Mickey himself behind. The last Mickey short - The Simple Things - was released in 1953, a full 13 years before his death. Mickey didn't hit the screen again until 1983, another 17 years later. And even the 1953 Mickey was very much off model from what we might expect from the corporate Mickey that graces resort drink cups, for instance:

The 1953 Mickey used in The Simple Things (and ostensibly) Walt approved actually looks like something you'd find on a bad t-shirt out on I Drive.

It's also worth remembering that Walt approved these nightmares too:

What I'm saying is that a personal preference for any one Mickey is like how we view any other art - personally.

Okay, hoping someone can answer this- what was the deal with those open flap looking things on Mickey & Minnie’s noses??? Were they there so people could speak clearer/ see/ breathe/ scare people???