Mickey and Minnie’s Runaway Railway - Disneyland

[TROR]

Actually the Mickey you get in the parks is even different depending on the era from where it was referenced. For example in F! has Mickey with several different looks (not just waredrobe) based on the different eras referenced.

Here is a better look at the differences over the years:

http://disney.wikia.com/wiki/Mickey_and_Minnie_Through_the_Years

Point is you have one that you prefer, which is fine. But overall most are either not that critical of it, or just accept that Mickey has had many looks over the years.

You're getting into the fine details. I'm referring to the flesh face with eyeballs, no shirt, gloves, yellow shoes, and red shorts with two white ovals. Does he differ a little from artist to artist and even short to short? Yes. That's not my point.

These are all the same Mickey. From 1939 to 2006+.

 

[Disney Irish]

I don't hate the look of this style of Mickey, but I wouldn't say this is the new style of Mickey. They use it seemingly strictly for the shorts and I don't even know if they are still making new ones. Nothing else, including products in stores, toys, other Disney shows, park appearances, etc. look anything like the style in the shorts.

The new shorts are still being produced, they are on season 5. And the parks have used them in merch.

 

[TROR]

The Mickey Mouse they use on merchandise is worse than the Mickey Mouse from the shorts. It's just downright offensive, honestly.

 

[Disney Irish]

You're getting into the fine details. I'm referring to the flesh face with eyeballs, no shirt, gloves, yellow shoes, and red shorts with two white ovals. Does he differ a little from artist to artist and even short to short? Yes. That's not my point.

These are all the same Mickey. From 1939 to 2006+.

Those artist differences though are what define Mickey to specific eras.

This version of Mickey is very specific to the style of artist that oversees Mickey now, Paul Rudish. But with him taking Iwerks version as the basis it looks very much in line with a Disney style,

I understand you don't like it, and can appreciate your opinion. But in my opinion I don't think park guests are as critical of this as you are. As such, again in my opinion, most are going to accept this version of Mickey in the attraction.

 

[Disney Irish]

The Mickey Mouse they use on merchandise is worse than the Mickey Mouse from the shorts. It's just downright offensive, honestly.

That is for a very specific limited run merchandise specifically art, commissioned by Disney to a specific artist. Because it was popular Disney has done a few clothing options with that same image. Again its very limited. I've had a hard time finding it in the parks when I go because I've wanted to get the other paintings in that collection.

 

[TROR]

Those artist differences though are what define Mickey to specific eras.

This version of Mickey is very specific to the style of artist that oversees Mickey now, Paul Rudish. But with him taking Iwerks version as the basis it looks very much in line with a Disney style,

I understand you don't like it, and can appreciate your opinion. But in my opinion I don't think park guests are as critical of this as you are. As such, again in my opinion, most are going to accept this version of Mickey in the attraction.

Most are going to accept a giant turd [see: Mission Breakout]. I don't care about the majority's opinion. I care about mine.

 

[Deleted member 107043]

I don't hate the look of this style of Mickey, but I wouldn't say this is the new style of Mickey. They use it seemingly strictly for the shorts and I don't even know if they are still making new ones. Nothing else, including products in stores, toys, other Disney shows, park appearances, etc. look anything like the style in the shorts.

Yeah, there are various artistic interpretations of Mickey currently in use across Disney, from the Studio to the theme parks.

 

[George Lucas on a Bench]

Disneyland guests hold Mickey Mouse to a higher standard. Their version shoots pyrotechnics across from The Haunted Mansion and defeats an obvious robot dragon foe.

 

[Disney Irish]

I don't care about the majority's opinion. I care about mine.

And yet its the majority that Disney cares about...

 

[TROR]

And yet its the majority that Disney cares about...

I can guarantee you the majority think of the Mickey Mouse I described before they ever think of the new version. It's not an issue of caring what the majority think, it's an issue of pushing the current Disney property to make those who are currently in charge look better. If they push the 1950's version of Mickey, they aren't pushing something they oversaw so they don't care.

 

[Californian Elitist]

Most are going to accept a giant turd [see: Mission Breakout]. I don't care about the majority's opinion. I care about mine.

I usually find the opinions of general park guests irrelevant.

 

[mickEblu]

I think Mickey is too iconic to just focus on one version of him. It should have been an adventure through time with all the different versions of him as we bounce around through the different eras and then insert whatever adventurous storyline makes sense. I think this would have made for a more timeless attraction and be better than locking themselves into the current/ modern version of Mickey. Although if it’s mostly screens, I guess it can be easily updated. Which is of course part of the problem. Attractions being created with the intention of making them easy to update and not just creating something timeless. Anyway, if we want to talk $, I think my version would sell more merch too with like 12 different Mickeys being showcased.

 

[Disney Irish]

I can guarantee you the majority think of the Mickey Mouse I described before they ever think of the new version. It's not an issue of caring what the majority think, it's an issue of pushing the current Disney property to make those who are currently in charge look better. If they push the 1950's version of Mickey, they aren't pushing something they oversaw so they don't care.

I'm not sure why you have this "us vs them" type of idea about this. Maybe because you feel "they" are attacking your childhood, I don't know. But its ALL Disney, every version. Disney executives make same money with the 1950s version, as they do with the current version. So I can assure you they aren't picking this specific version just to push something "they" oversaw.

 

[Disney Irish]

I think Mickey is too iconic to just focus on one version of him. It should have been an adventure through time with all the different versions of him as we bounce around through the different eras and then insert whatever adventurous storyline makes sense. I think this would have made for a more timeless attraction and better than locking themselves into the current and modern version of Mickey. Although if it’s mostly screens, I guess it can be easily updated. Which is of course part of the problem. Attractions being created with the intention of making them easy to update and not just creating something timeless. Anyway, if we want to talk $, I think my version would sell more merch too with like 12 different Mickeys being showcased.

I wanna see your version. I'd buy it...

 

[mickEblu]

I usually find the opinions of general park guests irrelevant.

Right. As a theme park enthusiast I really don’t care about what the lowest common denominator enjoys. People don’t know what they want until you give it to them. But in Disney’s eyes, they don’t have to give us POTC’s if people are getting excited about Incredicoaster.

 

[TROR]

I'm not sure why you have this "us vs them" type of idea about this. Maybe because you feel "they" are attacking your childhood, I don't know. But its ALL Disney, every version. Disney executives make same money with the 1950s version, as they do with the current version. So I can assure you they aren't picking this specific version just to push something "they" oversaw.

It's their legacy. They want it to be remembered.

 

[Disney Irish]

Right. As a theme park enthusiast I really don’t care about what the lowest common denominator enjoys. People don’t know what they want until you give it to them. But in Disney’s eyes, they don’t have to give us POTC’s if people are getting excited about Incredicoaster.

Some projects like SW:GE seem to conflict with that though. This Mickey attraction as well, different Mickey look aside.

I try to look at it project by project. I know that is sometimes difficult.

 

[Kram Sacul]

I think Mickey is too iconic to just focus on one version of him. It should have been an adventure through time with all the different versions of him as we bounce around through the different eras and then insert whatever adventurous storyline makes sense. I think this would have made for a more timeless attraction and be better than locking themselves into the current/ modern version of Mickey. Although if it’s mostly screens, I guess it can be easily updated. Which is of course part of the problem. Attractions being created with the intention of making them easy to update and not just creating something timeless. Anyway, if we want to talk $, I think my version would sell more merch too with like 12 different Mickeys being showcased.

Nope, we're stuck with this mangled Mickey and his badly drawn friends. Bad decision but I think the attraction will at least be interesting to watch. It better be. They killed off the Great Movie Ride for this garbage.

 

[Disney Irish]

It's their legacy. They want it to be remembered.

Now you're reaching. But agree to disagree.

 

[mickEblu]

Some projects like SW:GE seem to conflict with that though. This Mickey attraction as well, different Mickey look aside.

I try to look at it project by project. I know that is sometimes difficult.

True. I actually thought about SWL when writng my last post but it seems more like the exception these days and not the rule.