Mickey and Minnie’s Runaway Railway - Disneyland

[Disney Irish]

Wait but if it’s so subjective, why are all the answers going to be the same?

Because everyone has come to understand that X attraction is considered an E-Ticket, so they go with it. Everyone's list may vary slightly, but overall with DL everything is pretty set in stone.

But with new attractions its different, its subjective based on personal experience and tastes.

So while you may not consider MF:SR an E-Ticket, others do. Just in the same way today you may not consider Tiki Room an E-Ticket, but yet it was and is still considered one to many people.

 

[mickEblu]

Because everyone has come to understand that X attraction is considered an E-Ticket, so they go with it. Everyone's list may vary slightly, but overall with DL everything is pretty set in stone.

But with new attractions its different, its subjective based on personal experience and tastes.

So while you may not consider MF:SR an E-Ticket, others do. Just in the same way today you may not consider Tiki Room an E-Ticket, but yet it was and is still considered one to many people.

I can agree that it’s slightly more subjective with newer attractions but disagree with your rationale for why we agree certain attractions at DL are E tickets. We all disagree about all kinds of things here. Now all of a sudden we all agree on what an E ticket is only because it’s set in stone?

Also as great as Tiki Room is, I think you re wrong in your assessment that “many” find it to be an E ticket.

Falcon is an E ticket if you are Pilot and haven’t got sick of that one mission yet.

 

[Disney Irish]

I can agree that it’s slightly more subjective with newer attractions but disagree with your rationale for why we agree certain attractions at DL are E tickets. We all disagree about all kinds of things here. Now all of a sudden we all agree on what an E ticket is because it’s set in stone?

Also as great as Tiki Room is, I think you re wrong in your assessment that “many” find it to be an E ticket.

Falcon is an E ticket if you are Pilot and haven’t got sick of that one mission yet.

Well I disagree, I was an Engineer and I found the experience very enjoyable and thrilling. I enjoyed way more than I do Star Tours (which now that I'm older I get nausea on). So to me its an E-Ticket.

As for the rest, if you have attractions that are 30+ years old (which most at DL are). Everyone is going to agree on which are the top attractions, thus E-Tickets.

 

[mickEblu]

Well I disagree, I was an Engineer and I found the experience very enjoyable and thrilling. I enjoyed way more than I do Star Tours (which now that I'm older I get nausea on). So to me its an E-Ticket.

As for the rest, if you have attractions that are 30+ years old (which most at DL are). Everyone is going to agree on which are the top attractions, thus E-Tickets.

So you agree then. Our modern view of what attractions classify as an E ticket are pretty objective.

 

[Disney Irish]

So you agree then. Our modern view of what attractions classify as an E ticket are pretty objective.

That is not what I said.

If DL was adding a new attraction every couple of years it would be different but they aren't. So with new attraction that are few and far between its going to be highly subjective.

 

[mickEblu]

Also @Disney Irish to be honest at the sake of hurting my own argument, i realize most people will consider Falcon an E ticket. I just thing those people are being a little blindsided by it’s E ticket sized Queue, Star Wars nostalgia, and Impressive rockwork and Falcon parked outside.

EDIT: actually wait a minute that doesn’t hurt my argument. That strengthens it. With Falcon I’m just in the minority. Maybe with the other 10% people who might classify it as a D. Probably less.

 

[TROR]

Indiana Jones Adventure is an F-ticket. Pirates, Mansion, Space, and most of what y’all think of as E-tickets fall into this category as well.

 

[Disney Irish]

Also @Disney Irish to be honest at the sake of hurting my own argument, i realize most people will consider Falcon an E ticket. I just thing those people are being a little blindsided by it’s E ticket sized Queue, Star Wars nostalgia, and Impressive rockwork and Falcon parked outside.

Just because you think its lesser of an attraction and doesn't merit the E-Ticket moniker doesn't make any of those people that do any less valid. This is why I said for new attractions its highly subjective.

 

[mickEblu]

Indiana Jones Adventure is an F-ticket. Pirates, Mansion, Space, and most of what y’all think of as E-tickets fall into this category as well.

Yeah I mean you re right if Falcon is an E, POTC is an H ticket.

 

[Disney Irish]

Also @Disney Irish to be honest at the sake of hurting my own argument, i realize most people will consider Falcon an E ticket. I just thing those people are being a little blindsided by it’s E ticket sized Queue, Star Wars nostalgia, and Impressive rockwork and Falcon parked outside.

EDIT: actually wait a minute that doesn’t hurt my argument. That strengthens it. With Falcon I’m just in the minority. Maybe with the other 10% people who might classify it as a D. Probably less.

I'll even take it one step further, if you feel that MF is a D and people are only blinded by the queue and such. Then that makes ST a D or even a C also for the same reasons. However I would imagine most (maybe even yourself) consider it an E.

 

[mickEblu]

Just because you think its lesser of an attraction and doesn't merit the E-Ticket moniker doesn't make any of those people that do any less valid. This is why I said for new attractions its highly subjective.

Their valid opinions. Wrong but valid.

 

[Disney Irish]

Their valid opinions. Wrong but valid.

They are no more wrong than you my friend...

 

[mickEblu]

I'll even take it one step further, if you feel that MF is a D and people are only blinded by the queue and such. Then that makes ST a D also for the same reasons. However I would imagine most (maybe even yourself) consider it an E.

I think you re right. I think subconsciously I probably would have said Star Tours is an E. However, upon reflection I’d say it’s a D. I’m probably in the minority there too.

 

[Disney Irish]

I think you re right. I think subconsciously I probably would have said Star Tours is an E. However, upon reflection I’d say it’s a D. I’m probably in the minority there too.

Which then gets back to my point, the modern E-Ticket classifications are really subjective.

So then if its the majority that classify something as an E-Ticket, would that make it then an E-Ticket?

 

[mickEblu]

Which then gets back to my point, the modern E-Ticket classifications are really subjective.

So then if its the majority that classify something as an E-Ticket, would that make it then an E-Ticket?

No I just happen to be in the minority for those 2 attractions. I didn’t say 100% of people agree on everything.

Good question. It wouldn’t make it so but it would mean that modern classifications of E tickets are more objective.

 

[Disney Irish]

No I just happen to be in the minority for those 2 attractions. I didn’t say 100% of people agree on everything.

Wait, so because a majority thinks of something as an E, that makes the majority wrong? How does that work in something that we both agree on the surface is subjective?

 

[mickEblu]

Wait, so because a majority thinks of something as an E, that makes the majority wrong? How does that work in something that we both agree on the surface is subjective?

It doesn’t make the majority right. It just means more people agree on what an E ticket is these days and that it’s a lot more objective than it was in the past, which was my original point.

 

[Disney Irish]

It doesn’t make the majority right. It just means more people agree on what an E ticket is these days, which was my original point.

I just think you can't admit I was right about this....

Basically it comes down to what I said, modern E-Ticket classification is subjective.

 

[mickEblu]

I just think you can't admit I was right about this....

Basically it comes down to what I said, modern E-Ticket classification is subjective.

How could it not be subjective? I never said it wasn’t subjective at all. I said that it’s more objective than we like to realize. The majority of fans will agree on which attractions are E tickets. That alone is proof that there is a modern set of criteria we go by to determine what an E ticket is. Some of them are scale, length, thrill etc..

I just happen to be in the minority in my opinion of Falcon and Star Tours. Partly because I think both of these attractions are anomalies in that they are both very well themed (Falcon to a lesser extent) screen attractions. But at the end of the day you are still just being moved around in front of a small screen and it would be wrong to put them in the same category as the likes of POTC, HM, Indy etc..

I feel like you want to make this black and white and I’m saying come play in the gray area with me.

 

[TROR]

The original Star Tours was definitely an E-Ticket. With the drop in quality plus outdated technology, it certainly isn’t that anymore.