Mickey’s Not So Scary Halloween Party 2025

larryz

I'm Just A Tourist!
Premium Member
This makes no sense. The parties are capped well below the park’s maximum capacity. Everybody knows that; indeed, it’s a major selling point.

You seem to be implying that something sneaky or untoward is happening, but it’s not at all clear to me what you’re actually accusing Disney of.
It's no more "sneaky" or "untoward" than Disney's standard marketing practices.
 

MisterPenguin

President of Animal Kingdom
Premium Member
Except it's not unusual for "sold out" nights to cough up additional "tickets"...
That's been rarer and rarer. Coming out of COVID, Disney kept opening up limited tickets as they were able to nail down enough employees to operate ops.

Tickets also open up when people cancel, or move their vacation date.

Or instead of a nefarious presumption that Disney is playing mind games, it could be an intentional decision to hold back on sales and then release tickets later to give people a chance to get the date they want. Disney does this with Genie+ passes.

But to claim they are drumming up business for Party Nights which have been faithfully selling out and don't need any drumming up is bizarre. And it's a conspiracy that requires a lot of people to stay mum and not spill the beans to their family and friends or to social media when they're not with TWDC any more.
 

Comped

Well-Known Member
Even better yet, your resort concierges can double their tip income by MAGICALLY providing Deluxe hotel guests $200 party tickets to go along with their $400 Minnie Van rides to and from the airport...
Tip income? Resort concierge CMs are forbidden, as all (non server/bartender) are, from accepting tips... The number of times I had to literally back away, spin around, and hold out my hands to show that I didn't take a guests' money the offered after I performed their requested service, was too damn many. Disney is very specific that we could not take any form of tip. (Except cast complements, but I collected those mostly without having to ask... Some of my colleagues were a bit more blatant.) If I took $20 from an old lady for fixing her trip-long magic band issue (something I had to refuse more than once), I would have been fired, despite that being more than an hour's wage for 5 minutes of work.

Non-cash gifts, from cake to expensive bags to pins, were all well and good though. Would have preferred the cash, but that pin holds a special place in my collection for a reason.
 
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easyrowrdw

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Tip income? Resort concierge CMs are forbidden, as all CMs are, from accepting tips... The number of times I had to literally back away, spin around, and hold out my hands to show that I didn't take a guests' money the offered after I performed their requested service, was too damn many. Disney is very specific that we could not take any form of tip. (Except cast complements, but I collected those mostly without having to ask... Some of my colleagues were a bit more blatant.) If I took $20 from an old lady for fixing her trip-long magic band issue (something I had to refuse more than once), I would have been fired, despite that being more than an hour's wage for 5 minutes of work.

Non-cash gifts, from cake to expensive bags to pins, were all well and good though. Would have preferred the cash, but that pin holds a special place in my collection for a reason.
The Bell Services CMs who accept my cash when they transfer my luggage or bring it up to my room are breaking the rules?
 

peter11435

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No they significantly cut back after 2019.
No. In 2019 they briefly experimented with a slightly higher cap and then it was temporarily lowered following Covid. The current cap that has been used for the past several years is more than double what it was 10+ years ago and only a small percentage (singly digit) lower than the highest cap they have ever used for parties.
 

larryz

I'm Just A Tourist!
Premium Member
They look like standard run-of-the-mill commercials to me.

What is sneaky or untoward about them?
Do you see any crowds in any of those commercials? Any hint of the complexity of having to buy dated tickets, make park reservations, ordering your food over an app, making reservations to see characters or ride rides, or having to pay extra to avoid hours in line...?
 

MisterPenguin

President of Animal Kingdom
Premium Member
No. In 2019 they briefly experimented with a slightly higher cap and then it was temporarily lowered following Covid. The current cap that has been used for the past several years is more than double what it was 10+ years ago and only a small percentage (singly digit) lower than the highest cap they have ever used for parties.
I was ready to swear off the Holiday Parties in 2019 because of how crowded they were.

Then, COVID.

The Holiday Parties I experienced last year were no where near the crowds of 2019. The videos of Live Vloggers showing a nearly empty Fantasyland or Frontierland on a Party night show that to be the case.
 

Chi84

Premium Member
Do you see any crowds in any of those commercials? Any hint of the complexity of having to buy dated tickets, make park reservations, ordering your food over an app, making reservations to see characters or ride rides, or having to pay extra to avoid hours in line...?
You may be missing the point of marketing and advertising.

None of the things that you mention are hidden. They're all on MDE as well as on multiple sites that deal with Disney planning. The official and unofficial guides explaining how to avoid crowds and navigate the complexities of WDW were around when I started visiting in 1984.

It's never been a secret that Disney is the kind of vacation that requires significant planning.

Commercials are designed to get people into the parks, not warn them off.
 
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MisterPenguin

President of Animal Kingdom
Premium Member
Do you see any crowds in any of those commercials? Any hint of the complexity of having to buy dated tickets, make park reservations, ordering your food over an app, making reservations to see characters or ride rides, or having to pay extra to avoid hours in line...?
I know what you mean. I'm disappointed that stores' Black Friday ads don't show people trampled underfoot.
 

Prince-1

Well-Known Member
Do you see any crowds in any of those commercials? Any hint of the complexity of having to buy dated tickets, make park reservations, ordering your food over an app, making reservations to see characters or ride rides, or having to pay extra to avoid hours in line...?

And Burger King makes their burgers look really really tasty in their commercials when they are total garbage. It's called advertising.
 

larryz

I'm Just A Tourist!
Premium Member
You may be missing the point of marketing and advertising.

None of the things that you mention are hidden. They're all on MDE as well as on multiple sites that deal with Disney planning. The official and unofficial guides explaining how to avoid crowds and navigate the complexities of WDW were around when I started visiting in 1984.

It's never been a secret that Disney is the kind of vacation that requires significant planning.

Commercials are designed to get people into the parks, not warn them off.
I know what advertising is about -- it's about creating a need for a product. Disney commercials are good at that, plucking at heartstrings and concepts about family togetherness and memories -- and they're good at glossing over what an otherwise clueless family will have to experience (or spend) to get the kind of vacation their ads project, if not actually promise.

Despite the ubiquitous information people CAN research, evidence abounds of people who don't take advantage of it.
 

Chi84

Premium Member
I know what advertising is about -- it's about creating a need for a product. Disney commercials are good at that, plucking at heartstrings and concepts about family togetherness and memories -- and they're good at glossing over what an otherwise clueless family will have to experience (or spend) to get the kind of vacation their ads project, if not actually promise.

Despite the ubiquitous information people CAN research, evidence abounds of people who don't take advantage of it.
I still don't know why you consider them sneaky or untoward. They're doing what commercials are supposed to do and, as you pointed out, they are good at it.

MDE is filled with the information you need to plan a Disney vacation. There's nothing Disney can do if people don't take advantage of it.

I'm not sure what type of commercial you would propose.
 

Figments Friend

Well-Known Member
So let’s talk about something fun related to the Halloween Event for those who are planning to attend.

How about costumes….
Who here is wearing their own costume this year, or perhaps deciding it’s time for a change?
Maybe wear a new costume instead of the same old thing…?

Let’s hear what y’all are wearing this year, and what ideas you may have for a fun party costume.

Don’t forget, you will be in Florida…in 125 degree weather with 200% humidity…even at night time.
Perhaps Tarzan would be a good choice…?

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