That i don't know. I can't nail it down. But I do know there should be minor placemaking and enhancements, infrastructure changes and a major project.
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Miceage Update: New Soarin film by 2015, DHS refurb on the way.
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Wikkler
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They mean get an entire makeover like DCA did.
captainkidd
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Ahhhh Disneyland. Where Disney actually still cares about it's park.
Nmoody1
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Heaven forbid people walk anywhere! All these people movers and moving walkways are quite unecessary, people already get to and from the studio just fine without the above.... Have some actual park attractions - not ways to make people even lazier in getting places!
PeoplemoverTTA
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I am not an insider (nor do I claim to be), but through a friend of a friend on my trip last week, I did encounter someone with some scoop on changes for DHS. From what I'm told (and obviously these plans could change significantly, if they're even valid), we could expect a 40% increase in park size in the next 5 years. I heard more than that, but I don't want to jeopardize anyone's job or anything. Regardless of the validity of the rumors (including work already being done near AoA), it was fun to hear them and think about their potential!
I don't have kids, so maybe that's the reason, but I find more and more that I love DHS (while acknowledging that it needs more attractions). It's impossible to hit every show and attraction in one day, and I enjoy just about everything there (even AI...sometimes). And with the kiddy focus in MK, it has fallen to my #3 park lately. I never thought that would happen! But when every new addition is focused solely on kids (and not kids of all ages), it's hard to get excited about the Magic Kingdom, other than to hit the classics and get the obligatory castle shot.
Californian Elitist
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Californian Elitist
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No one said anything about making the park into DCA, and it most certainly isn't a cheesy amusement park. If Cars Land, Buena Vista Street, Pacific Wharf, etc. count as cheesy then I must have low standards or you've never visited DCA before.
By "DCA-style makeover", it's interpreted as one big sum of money going into different parts of the park for experience enhancement. That's all. You don't have to worry about DHS turning into DCA. I find it a little ironic that you don't want DHS to be like DCA, but you want Cars Land.
Calvin Coolidge
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DHS cannot just be "left alone." It needs serious, serious help. Frankly, DHS looks far more "cheesy" at this point than DCA 2.0.
Turtle
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Of all the parks DHS needs some work. It only has 5 attractions in which three of them consistently have hour waits because there aren't any other ridesWhat's cheesy about DHS? If any park needs some TLC it's Epcot.
doctornick
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Um, what? I just couldn't disagree more.
Some of DHS is fantastic -- the headline attractions, the general theming of Sunset Blvd and Hollywood Blvd (if they remove the hat). But the rest if mostly a thematic mess with a terrible layout. There needs to be far more rides and more cohesive theming. It would help if TDO could decide what the park will be -- a "working studio" (which is no longer true) or simply a theme park to celebrate Hollywood/movies/entertainment.
Structurally, it would be nice if they could build a connection from around RNR to Animation courtyard. The dead ends in the park are frustrating and don't help with guest flow.
DonaldDoleWhip
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Great Old Hollywood theme? The only parts of the park that showcase Old Hollywood are Hollywood Boulevard and Sunset Boulevard. And Hollywood Boulevard suffers from the presence of a cheesy, oversized hat. DHS once had two interesting icons (much like DCA does now: DCA has Carthay Circle Theatre and Grizzly Peak, while DHS has the Chinese Theatre and Earful Tower), but they've both been pushed aside for the plastic hat.
What's cheesy about DHS? If any park needs some TLC it's Epcot.
The hat, the 20-year-old stage shows (that are both inferior to Aladdin at DCA), the backlot tour, the Great Movie Ride (dated show scenes and a CM script that's beyond cheesy), American Idol still being in the park, and of course the barely-themed 'backlot' vibe beyond Hollywood and Sunset Boulevard.
The park needs serious help. I still love (parts of) it, but DHS would be lucky to be as impressive as DCA is now.
doctornick
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That's a big part of the problem and something they need to address by increasing the amound of space devoted to guest areas. There are rumors that some of this might occur, if the parking access road is redirected (could allow for the current road to be added to the park) and if the backstage buildings behind Baklot Express/Star Tours are torn down and replaced by onstage stuff. There's space near the IJ stunt show and the BatB theater that are undeveloped and could be used. The Premiere Theater is unused most of the time, the former Sounds Dangerous space is underutilized as a signup area, and Soundstage is sitting essentially empty.
And, certainly, both LMA Baklot Tour take up a lot of space with little yield.
Basically put, there's a lot of stuff that could be done to expand DHS's footprint and offerings if they wanted to pursue it.
ctxak98
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well...it has 5 moving rides....but many more attractions. Attractions can be a show or walkthrough!
ctxak98
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I think what he is trying to say is that Hollywood Boulevard and Sunset Boulevard are fine the way they are in terms of LOOK. he is fine with them adding new shows or taking away the ugly hat if they don't touch the LOOK of the Boulevards and I for one agree! Its a unique space only DHS has and its very beautiful come night time! I want new shows and new attractions like the DCA makeover, But I don't want a carbon copy of what they have or how the makeover was done. DCA needed the facelift towards the front of the park....DHS doesn't. It just needs a few more rides to sit along all the other shows and attractions. Hope I clarified a little bit!?
Texas84
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How about dropping the sidewalk and incorporating the people mover? Probably doesn't help your budget.
danlb_2000
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Californian Elitist
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Have you been to DCA?
Calvin Coolidge
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What's cheesy about DHS? If any park needs some TLC it's Epcot.
While I'll concede that Epcot probably deserves more help than DHS, a DCA-sized upgrade could go to great lengths to make the park a more complete, full experience, maybe one that's worth the new one-day ticket price.
DonaldDoleWhip
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Nobody ever suggested changing the theme of two boulevards at DHS, since Hollywood Boulevard and Sunset Boulevard are the strongest parts of the park right now. DHS not only needs new attractions - it needs placemaking in the non-boulevard areas (and the removal of the hat, of course). I strongly believe DHS needs a DCA-style makeover, and that doesn't mean plopping a ferris wheel somewhere or altering the best-themed areas of the park.
Furthermore, to anyone who actually understands what took place at DCA (the person I quoted clearly doesn't), they would know that a lot of DCA remained the same after the makeover. Grizzly Peak, Condor Flats, and Pacific Wharf, for example, barely changed at all over the past 5 years. That's because the makeover was focused on the weakest areas of the park: the atrocious Sunshine Plaza, Paradise Pier, and Hollywood Pictures Backlot. Some of these areas still need work (Paradise Pier and Hollywood Land), but my point is the refurbishments didn't drastically alter the areas of DCA that were already solid. That shouldn't be a concern at all for DHS - the concern is if DHS will receive enough to fix its flaws. I don't think Cars Land is the only thing DHS needs (and it might not need it at all, if the park receives other noticeable enhancements).
