Cosmic Commando
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Well other companies do more complicated things! It's not my fault Disney screwed it up!
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MiceAge on the latest news regarding MyMagic+ : Read it and weep.
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Disneyhead'71
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Well, I haven't been carded in many years. But that is beside the point. But yes I do have concerns about giving up personal info....even outside of WDW.
WDWDad13
Well-Known Member
Not if you are Disney and have to comply legally to SOX auditing requirements
Voxel
President of Progress City
You corrected in this assumption, I am gonna assume that the back-end is running on some sort of SQL variant which can limit the information given out based on permission and request information. However this doesn't stop CM's using other CM's information to get High permissions. For instance, when I worked in Retail a few of us new the manager's log-in detail to do over-rides(with his permission), however how do you stop abuse of it.
You can't really expect not giving out that information.
Also a side note about privacy, I will agree with @englanddg, it comes down to the person. You would be surprised how much information is given out by people don't verifying something. The average person is on a security Camera 18 times a day and if you are in London well you can times that number greatly. For the people concerned with personal security, do not go to London they track your every movement. Remember the London riots. They did not arrest anyone over the course of the riots for the most part, but 3 month afterwards, after reviewing all the security footage they arrested, 3,100 were arrested thanks to the camera.
IWantMyMagicBand
Well-Known Member
You think London is bad: Here is the town I live in in the U.K:
http://www.bigbrotherwatch.org.uk/home/2011/03/britains-first-town-with-nowhere-to-hide.html
Do I worry? No as I have nothing to hide. Aside from being tracked, do I worry about being cloned? No, even though it has happened to me before. How? My mum emptied a drawer into the skip (giant metal open bin that you hire to sit on your driveway then when it's full it gets taken to the dump) when she moved that had an envelope with my name and address on it. That's all. Some lovely lowlife opened accounts in my name using just that info. Luckily the bank was switched on and called me.
If I could microchip my family I would, I know where they are then. In fact I'd quite like a MagicChip so if someone did want to steal my child I can track them!
So long as the permission levels are set correctly for each CM then I am happy. There will always be employees in any company that may have the desire to misuse information. The security guard at the supermarket knows what my kids look like, and could get my name etc by zooming in on my bank card. We don't have to show ID in the UK to purchase alcohol or knives unless we look under 25.
Voxel
President of Progress City
That's pretty impressive from a technical point of view, though admittedly somewhat scary.
Your right about microchip and tracking, When Disney first announced MyMagic+ I didn't freak out because Disney could track me, I was happy because this would help in cases of lost children/family members (I like to wonder off, so if its helps my Girlfriend find me she is happy). I wonder how some of theses people would react to the movement to place GPS and monitors into clothing that would Call emergency service is something happened.
As for tracking, almost every Major Retail store uses Wifi on cell phones to track what area guest go the most for statistic and data analysis. This is the future, and while most of it is devised for good and the betterment of situations, you can never fully stop people from taking advantage. But you can place safe guard into place.
LeafsFanNL
Active Member
It shocks me that someone somewhere in the corporate structure didn't kill this in the planning stage. I can't imagine how anyone expected this to return the investment required
JimboJones123
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Goofyernmost
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I have to ask what planet you reside on. I have had a drivers license for 50 years and never once has anyone ever swiped my DL. Not once! Looked at for birth date (not so much anymore, as I guess I'm starting to look over 21) and picture verification (which also surprises me because frankly I have no idea who the old guy is in the picture). I guess the point is that we can spend ourselves into a nervous breakdown if we attempt to consider the absolute unlimited ways that we can become victims. However, to be able to stay sane we must also factor in the likelihood of those things happening, with or without information. The locations that we are dealing with, the motives and the gross amounts of information being let out to random individuals.
Soc. Sec. #'s...I am under the medical care of the VA. All I have ever had to give them to ID myself is the last 4 digits. Even if I could think of any reason why Disney would publish the entire thing (which I cannot) I am at a loss to understand why it would be needed by anyone. Do we know that currently that info actually appears to lower level, no need to know, personnel? Or any level, as far as that goes? Personally, I doubt it.
DisneyGentleman
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No offense, but your "guarantee" gets me what? I can "guarantee" today is not Monday.
WDWDad13
Well-Known Member
about as much as all of the wild ASSUMPTIONS made by others
flynnibus
Premium Member
It's newer technology. Instead of having to type something in from the DL - they can just scan the license like they would a UPC symbol. Maybe your licenses don't have it.. or you simply have come across a vendor who has a system updated to use it.
danlb_2000
Premium Member
SOX auditing only applies to data and systems that directly impact financial reporting. IT control frameworks do enforce access control best practices like how access is requested, removal of terminated employee's etc., but it doesn't necessarily enforce what data a user can see. If they developed an application that allows CM's to see all the data about a guest, there is nothing requiring them to put in extra access controls so that CM in role A can only see the customers name, role B can see name and address, role C can see name and Fastpass reservations, etc. Those sorts of access controls are a good idea but they add to the cost of developing and supporting the system, so are often either dropped or not done at all.
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flynnibus
Premium Member
Many places have a 100% carding policy... including some grocery stores, etc. Are we just as upset with them?
lazyboy97o
Well-Known Member
I think its stupid they still look for an exact date when my card format is only available to those over 21.
flynnibus
Premium Member
Much like the audit discussion here... I think it's a way of enforcing checking and covering liability. By requiring a date input, they can then go after the fact and 'prove' they asked for ID and were presented with one, etc. Of course someone can still lie, etc.. but it's a way of making sure cashiers follow policy.
lazyboy97o
Well-Known Member
That I understand, for me most of the time there is no entry of the date for verification.
ford91exploder
Resident Curmudgeon
Visit a Bar in MA - most of the 'better' establishments swipe your DL as a precondition of alcohol service. The MICROS POS systems for hospitality have DL verification systems.
Swiping a DL in my home state is pretty common especially since selling alcohol to Minors is a First offense Misdemeanor second offense Felony. And it's the SERVER who gets busted and the state liquor commission does not plea bargain and they run stings weekly.
ford91exploder
Resident Curmudgeon
Of course the format itself shows that you are over the age required, But in most cases data is never requested