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Disney Irish

Disney Irish

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lightningtap347 said:
Ed Norton's Hulk is a part of the MCU... yet you don't see him as Bruce Banner!
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Yet there hasn't been a standalone Hulk movie since, hence not a reboot just an actor change. Don Cheadle also replaced Terrance Howard as well.

When a new standalone Hulk movie starring Mark Ruffalo (or any other actor than Ed Norton) is released then you can call it a reboot.
 
lightningtap347

lightningtap347

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DisneyIrishGuy said:
Yet there hasn't been a standalone Hulk movie since, hence not a reboot just an actor change. Don Cheadle also replaced Terrance Howard as well.

When a new standalone Hulk movie starring Mark Ruffalo (or any other actor than Ed Norton) is released then you can call it a reboot.
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Right, but that's still confusing, which I think was his point. It can be confusing, they are not 100% with the continuity as you had stated.
 
spacemt354

spacemt354

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lightningtap347 said:
Ed Norton's Hulk is a part of the MCU... yet you don't see him as Bruce Banner!
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That's not a reboot, that's an actor recast. They kept the same previous character events and storylines in tact, just with a different actor playing the role - Harlem, Thunderbolt Ross, etc. They've done that several times already with War Machine, Thanos, etc.

Heck with that definition Harry Potter was 'rebooted' starting with Prisoner of Azkaban and a new Dumbledore.
 
Disney Irish

Disney Irish

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lightningtap347 said:
Right, but that's still confusing, which I think was his point. It can be confusing, they are not 100% with the continuity as you had stated.
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Other than the actor, all other aspect of the story is within the same continuity. So how is that confusing?

In fact if I recall correctly I believe when Mark Ruffalo is introduced as Banner he even makes a joke about his previous "actor".
 
lightningtap347

lightningtap347

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DisneyIrishGuy said:
Other than the actor, all other aspect of the story is within the same continuity. So how is that confusing?

In fact if I recall correctly I believe when Mark Ruffalo is introduced as Banner he even makes a joke about his previous "actor".
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I'm not saying I'm confused, as I am up to speed with Marvel all the time. But you cannot tell me that it cant get confusing at times with everything that is going on regarding comic book films. I can see how he can be confused over what is/isn't MCU currently, and what is/isn't current. If someone were to not be so heavily involved I can see how they would be confused with recasts or say, watching a non MCU Marvel movie and not understanding different continuities between what is/isn't MCU.
 
spacemt354

spacemt354

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lightningtap347 said:
I'm not saying I'm confused, as I am up to speed with Marvel all the time. But you cannot tell me that it cant get confusing at times with everything that is going on regarding comic book films. I can see how he can be confused over what is/isn't MCU currently, and what is/isn't current. If someone were to not be so heavily involved I can see how they would be confused with recasts or say, watching a non MCU Marvel movie and not understanding different continuities between what is/isn't MCU.
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Initial confusion is one thing and understandable, continued confusion would be due to not doing individual research to find out what is/isn't MCU if one is genuinely curious (it really doesn't take that long to do a google search)

Not that you are, but you can't blame Marvel or the MCU if someone hasn't followed the last nine years of films and all of a sudden is confused watching film #14 in the series with regard to the continuity of the characters.
 
Disney Irish

Disney Irish

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lightningtap347 said:
I'm not saying I'm confused, as I am up to speed with Marvel all the time. But you cannot tell me that it cant get confusing at times with everything that is going on regarding comic book films. I can see how he can be confused over what is/isn't MCU currently, and what is/isn't current. If someone were to not be so heavily involved I can see how they would be confused with recasts or say, watching a non MCU Marvel movie and not understanding different continuities between what is/isn't MCU.
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I think its pretty clear. Starting in 2008 with Iron Man the MCU was formed. All films that are part of the MCU are within the same universe and same continuity. Other than a couple actor recasts everything has remained within that same universe and continuity.

Doing a simple 3 second search will give you this same information.
 
Disney Irish

Disney Irish

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spacemt354 said:
Initial confusion is one thing and understandable, continued confusion would be due to not doing individual research to find out what is/isn't MCU if one is genuinely curious (it really doesn't take that long to do a google search)

Not that you are, but you can't blame Marvel or the MCU if someone hasn't followed the last nine years of films and all of a sudden is confused watching film #14 in the series with regard to the continuity of the characters.
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Completely agree. And I'm not even an uber fan. Imagine an uber fan in this discussion lol...
 
dweezil78

dweezil78

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DisneyIrishGuy said:
Yet there hasn't been a standalone Hulk movie since, hence not a reboot just an actor change. Don Cheadle also replaced Terrance Howard as well.

When a new standalone Hulk movie starring Mark Ruffalo (or any other actor than Ed Norton) is released then you can call it a reboot.
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The Hulk issue is complicated. Can't remember exactly, but basically Universal has the rights to do Hulk movies but Disney is allowed to do what they please with the character as long as its not a standalone Hulk movie. That's why he has such a large role in the new Thor movie (I haven't seen it yet, so not sure how big). It's basically their workaround for not being able to do an actual Hulk movie.
 
spacemt354

spacemt354

Chili's
dweezil78 said:
The Hulk issue is complicated. Can't remember exactly, but basically Universal has the rights to do Hulk movies but Disney is allowed to do what they please with the character as long as its not a standalone Hulk movie. That's why he has such a large role in the new Thor movie (I haven't seen it yet, so not sure how big). It's basically their workaround for not being able to do an actual Hulk movie.
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Correct.

Essentially, Marvel/Disney own the production rights for the Hulk character.

If they wanted to, they could make a Hulk stand-alone movie in the MCU, but Universal still owns the distribution rights for Hulk stand-alone films, so if a Hulk stand-alone film was made, Universal would get a cut. And Disney doesn't want that

So instead, owning the production rights, they put the Hulk in other films where he isn't the title character so they don't have to work with Universal.
 
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Disney Irish

Disney Irish

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dweezil78 said:
The Hulk issue is complicated. Can't remember exactly, but basically Universal has the rights to do Hulk movies but Disney is allowed to do what they please with the character as long as its not a standalone Hulk movie. That's why he has such a large role in the new Thor movie (I haven't seen it yet, so not sure how big). It's basically their workaround for not being able to do an actual Hulk movie.
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spacemt354 said:
Correct.

Essentially, Marvel/Disney own the production rights for the Hulk character.

If they wanted to, they could make a Hulk stand-alone movie in the MCU, but Universal still owns the distribution rights for Hulk stand-alone films, so if a Hulk stand-alone film was made, Universal would get a cut. And Disney doesn't want that

So instead, owning the production rights, they put the Hulk in other films where he isn't the title character so they don't have to work with Universal.
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Actually from what Kevin Feige and Mark Ruffalo have indicated its Universal that doesn't want to play ball. I mean a deal was stuck with Sony for Spider-Man. So why wouldn't Universal want to do a similar deal with Hulk where they both get a cut?

Well here is my theory, it all comes down to the theme park rights to the Marvel characters. Disney wants these back at all costs. So its dangling the Hulk solo movies in front of Universal saying we can make these and split the revenue. But you have to give up the exclusive claims to the Marvel character in the theme parks on the East Coast (only place Disney is limited).

Otherwise I don't see any other reason why Universal wouldn't want to distribute the IH films if made my Marvel. Marvel is basically printing money at this point, so Universal would be stupid to say no if there was just a movie deal on the table.
 

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