TROR
Well-Known Member
Can we have Robert Downey Jr. play 1960's Iron Man, yes or no?
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Disney Irish
Premium Member
Ok, let me restate it a different way. The MCU characters themselves can be used as a jumping off point, but don't expect the MCU in DCA. It is its own universe separate from the MCU or any other Marvel universe.
The Marvel Theme Park Universe, as it has been coined, will have its own universe in which we the theme parkgoer will be part of it. This is already shown in both GotG and IronMan in HKDL. So just because the characters are the representation of the ones shown in the MCU they don't have anything to do with the MCU or its stories.
Disney Irish
Premium Member
I suppose, but I doubt it. Your statement of the MTPU being modern day was so far correct, which I know you hate the idea. But its all about immersive experiences. The MTPU is all about involving the parkgoer in the story in some way. Having 1960's Iron Man won't do that unless you find a way to transport the guests into the 1960s during the attraction.
Additionally with the two attractions so far known they will be set in modern day, Avengers Coaster and the Spider-Man attraction.
TROR
Well-Known Member
I have this really cool idea for having guests be able to time travel it's called entering a theme park
spacemt354
Chili's
I think you're overcomplicating it. In simpliest terms, its like any other attraction based on a film.
Cars (the film) is not reliant on what happens in RSR. But RSR is inspired by the film.
The only reason why Marvel is being questioned for more connevtivity to the films is due to the 'it's all connected' theme the MCU carries.
Disney Irish
Premium Member
And you stated that a theme park was about experiencing things you can't in the real world. Well this fits the bill, I don't know of any place in the real world where I can go on an adventure with any superhero from Marvel.
Disney Irish
Premium Member
However it needs to be stated because even on this board the MCU and its locations gets used as the reason why the attractions don't work in DCA. However as has been shown in both the current attractions the locations of MCU and its stories are not being used.
SSG
Well-Known Member
Sure, that fits as well as Carsland, which isn't very well. It's looking for a California connection which is tenuous at best. This circles back to my point that Disney doesn't consider DCA a park themed to California any more.
spacemt354
Chili's
No, it's the unecessarily thin stretches that the storylines are taking to 'fit' in DCA that people have issues with.
If the park was simply called the Disney Studios, there would be no need for such ridiculous premises like 'the Collector has a collection in DCA' in order to fit in the park. It's weak story-telling.
Disney Irish
Premium Member
And I'm all for changing the name of the park just so people can stop with the "It doesn't fit into the California theme" just because of the left over name.
TROR
Well-Known Member
How about we keep the name and theme of the park and ditch the low quality work WDI has been putting out lately?
Disney Irish
Premium Member
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Deleted member 107043
And Winnie the Pooh, a teddy bear who first appeared in the 1920s and lives in a forest presumably somewhere in the UK, has a home at DL Park in the American frontier in the 1800s. Does it bug me? Yes, but it's hardly the end of the world, and the same will be the case if Disney positions Spiderman in California.
Disney Irish
Premium Member
The California in the name is representative of that same low quality of DCA 1.0 that you have an issue with. So why keep the name? The name is what everyone in the fandom gets stuck on. So to solve that issue remove California from the name and call it something else.
TROR
Well-Known Member
But it is the end of the world in regards to themed entertainment. High quality storytelling and immersion is gone and it's been replaced by IPs with no purpose.
No it's not. I love the California theme and want it embraced, not tarnished.
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Deleted member 107043
Oooookaaay you win. LOL. Where they put them is really not that important to me. I'm not going to change my opinion and neither are you so let's just agree to disagree.
SSG
Well-Known Member
That's a fair position. But that theme isn't being embraced. I'm talking about what is; not what some people might like.
Disney Irish
Premium Member
DCA 1.0 was a failure even by Disney's own admission. I'm sure if it wouldn't have cost them so much they would have torn down all of DCA and start over. The fact they tried put lipstick on a pig with some of the DCA 2.0 changes doesn't mean the overall California as a location theme wasn't still a failure.
That is the past, we are talking about the future now, with DCA 2.1 or 3.0 whatever number you want to use. The California location as a theme isn't being embraced as @SSG stated. So with that said I think the fandom needs to understand this and move on.
spacemt354
Chili's
Until the park's message is clear and coherent once again, the gripes are 100% valid.
TROR
Well-Known Member
I know it isn't being embraced. I want it to be, however, as I like the theme and believe there's a lot to be done with it. Whether they change the name or not, I will continue to complain about them straying from the theme.