Marvel Land Discussion and Rumors

britain

britain

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Hatbox Ghostbuster said:
Yeah...but to be fair, aviation was born on the East Coast in Ohio and North Carolina.

I'm just saying, they're not constructing areas like "San Francisco Land" or creating attractions around Yosemite. They're going to "California-vague" route.
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Yes, but I think the concern is that a New York-specific Spider-Man attraction will totally break the California-vague route.

And would I want them to bend over backwards to have Spidey in this attraction doing his thing in downtown LA? No, I'd rather they break the park's 'theme' in order to build better attractions.
 
Hatbox Ghostbuster

Hatbox Ghostbuster

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britain said:
Yes, but I think the concern is that a New York-specific Spider-Man attraction will totally break the California-vague route.
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I agree completely. Which is kinda why I'm really curious to see what they do. This could be the proverbial nail in the coffin of the "California" theme. Rumors circulated a lot a while back that we'd eventually see a new name for the park.
 
Disney Irish

Disney Irish

Premium Member
britain said:
Yes, but I think the concern is that a New York-specific Spider-Man attraction will totally break the California-vague route.

And would I want them to bend over backwards to have Spidey in this attraction doing his thing in downtown LA? No, I'd rather they break the park's 'theme' in order to build better attractions.
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Hatbox Ghostbuster said:
I agree completely. Which is kinda why I'm really curious to see what they do. This could be the proverbial nail in the coffin of the "California" theme. Rumors circulated a lot a while back that we'd eventually see a new name for the park.
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If there is some California reference it'll probably be similar to how HKDL does their Iron Man attraction.

And I'd be all for a name change.
 
TROR

TROR

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Hatbox Ghostbuster said:
I can't believe we're all forgetting about the MOST California things that are in DCA:
-Ariel's Undersea Adventure (duh, ocean)
-Starbucks (.....coffee?)
-Bugs Land (duh, bugs, grass, etc!!)
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Bug's Land was a quick rush job in 2002 in order to address the complaints of there not being enough kids rides. It doesn't fit, but it clearly wasn't an attempt to step away from the theme of California.

I don't see how Starbucks is a problem? It's not a themed land or attraction. It's a food service. That's like complaining about how the shirts sold at DCA aren't made in California.

TLM doesn't need to tie into the theme of California, though. What it needs to do is tie into the theme of Paradise Pier. Does it do that? I suppose. I mean, ocean. Or you could say piers used to have dark rides and that's what this is supposed to be. I've also heard the argument that the exterior of the attraction is based off of old Victorian aquariums, which is an interesting take. Anyways, TLM has never bugged me like Bug's Land, Marvel, or Pixar Pier.
 
Hatbox Ghostbuster

Hatbox Ghostbuster

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TROR said:
Bug's Land was a quick rush job in 2002 in order to address the complaints of there not being enough kids rides. It doesn't fit, but it clearly wasn't an attempt to step away from the theme of California.

I don't see how Starbucks is a problem? It's not a themed land or attraction. It's a food service. That's like complaining about how the shirts sold at DCA aren't made in California.

TLM doesn't need to tie into the theme of California, though. What it needs to do is tie into the theme of Paradise Pier. Does it do that? I suppose. I mean, ocean. Or you could say piers used to have dark rides and that's what this is supposed to be. I've also heard the argument that the exterior of the attraction is based off of old Victorian aquariums, which is an interesting take. Anyways, TLM has never bugged me like Bug's Land, Marvel, or Pixar Pier.
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lol. Starbucks was a total joke.
 
TROR

TROR

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If they put Spider-Man in California, I'll be upset because it won't be using Spider-Man to his fullest potential. If they put Spider-Man in New York, I'll be upset because it won't belong in DCA.

There's no winning for them. They deserve this.
 
Disney Irish

Disney Irish

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TROR said:
Bug's Land was a quick rush job in 2002 in order to address the complaints of there not being enough kids rides. It doesn't fit, but it clearly wasn't an attempt to step away from the theme of California.

I don't see how Starbucks is a problem? It's not a themed land or attraction. It's a food service. That's like complaining about how the shirts sold at DCA aren't made in California.

TLM doesn't need to tie into the theme of California, though. What it needs to do is tie into the theme of Paradise Pier. Does it do that? I suppose. I mean, ocean. Or you could say piers used to have dark rides and that's what this is supposed to be. I've also heard the argument that the exterior of the attraction is based off of old Victorian aquariums, which is an interesting take. Anyways, TLM has never bugged me like Bug's Land, Marvel, or Pixar Pier.
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TLM took over the same building that was Golden Dreams which was themed to look like the Palace of Fine Arts in SF. Other than a paint job its still the same building, as far as I can tell. So no it has nothing to do with Victorian aquariums, if anything it could be said the warehouse does look like any 20th century aquarium.

Really means that when they took away Golden Dreams and repainted it, that took away the Palace of Fine Arts tie-in, and thus away from California.
 
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TROR

TROR

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DisneyIrishGuy said:
TLM took over the same building that was Golden Dreams which was themed to look like the Palace of Fine Arts in SF. Other than a paint job its still the same building, as far as I can tell. So no it has nothing to do with Victorian aquariums.

Really means that when they took away Golden Dreams and repainted it, that took away the Palace of Fine Arts tie-in, and thus away from California.
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Other than the dome, TLM is a completely new structure.
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Disney Irish

Disney Irish

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TROR said:
Other than the dome, TLM is a completely new structure.
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You just proved my point even more.

The warehouse doesn't have anything to do with Victorian or California. If anything it looks like ANY 20th century aquarium around the country. So that is a real stretch.

Again the Dome is what was the whole tie-in to the California theme as it represented a real place in SF. Once that got repainted and the rest of the warehouse changed it lost all California references. Unless you want to make the very very very thin argument that California has aquariums
 
Antaundra

Antaundra

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Marvel fits in California because of California comic book culture. Comic Con is one of the oldest and largest comic book conventions and it's based in California. It makes as much sense as Carsland.
 
spacemt354

spacemt354

Chili's
Antaundra said:
Marvel fits in California because of California comic book culture. Comic Con is one of the oldest and largest comic book conventions and it's based in California. It makes as much sense as Carsland.
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Cars Land makes sense for me due to Route 66 and the naturalistic setting (even though Radiator Springs is technically in Arizona) But Marvel's headquarters are in New York City so I don't see the connection just because 'comics'

Unless it has Iron Man (Malibu), Ant-Man (San Fran), West Coast Avengers (unlikely), or the story takes place in California, I really don't see how it fits. Even then, Spider-Man in a California setting would be a complete injustice to the character in my opinion.
 
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Antaundra said:
Marvel fits in California because of California comic book culture. Comic Con is one of the oldest and largest comic book conventions and it's based in California. It makes as much sense as Carsland.
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There's a Swiss mountain in Tomorrowland next to a tropical lagoon so Marvel characters in California wouldn't be that big of a deal.
 

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