Marvel Land Discussion and Rumors

britain

britain

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TROR said:
I know, but it's a common thing I hear people say in an actual defense of the current state of DCA.
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I agree that it is a lame defense. But when you think of theme parks & amusement parks across the world, it's common to see a city or state name in the title and it DOESN'T have anything to do with the content of the park. While we all know that Disney California Adventure was conceived with the same logic as "DisneySea" or "Disney Hollywood Studios" perhaps for Joe Q. Public, it's just registering on a "Six Flags over Georgia" "Universal Studios Orlando" or "Tokyo Disneyland" sort of level.

Maybe the execs are hoping that every time someone says "So, you gonna drop the 'California' from the name and call it Disney Adventures?" if they just ignore the question, then over the years it will effectively happen mentally if not officially.

I don't think that will work, though. Disney is just too big on THEME parks, and their titles mean things. Someone will always be asking when they'll drop the C... until the actual C drops into the sea.
 
Hatbox Ghostbuster

Hatbox Ghostbuster

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britain said:
I agree that it is a lame defense. But when you think of theme parks & amusement parks across the world, it's common to see a city or state name in the title and it DOESN'T have anything to do with the content of the park. While we all know that Disney California Adventure was conceived with the same logic as "DisneySea" or "Disney Hollywood Studios" perhaps for Joe Q. Public, it's just registering on a "Six Flags over Georgia" "Universal Studios Orlando" or "Tokyo Disneyland" sort of level.

Maybe the execs are hoping that every time someone says "So, you gonna drop the 'California' from the name and call it Disney Adventures?" if they just ignore the question, then over the years it will effectively happen mentally if not officially.

I don't think that will work, though. Disney is just too big on THEME parks, and their titles mean things. Someone will always be asking when they'll drop the C... until the actual C drops into the sea.
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I C what you did there...but you do bring up an interesting point of other theme parks using the geographical location name in the park's title, irrelevant to the actual park itself.
 
Disney Irish

Disney Irish

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TROR said:
The problem with this is that it implies the park's name has to be Disney California - Adventure rather than Disney - California Adventure, which is what it actually is according to all park maps, merchandise, and entrance gates.

The title "California Adventure" refers to a California based adventure. It can be a wide variety of adventures, from Indiana Jones to Marvel characters, but they need to be set within California or have some ties to the state.
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Too many people put too much emphasis on the word California. When the park started it was Disney's California Adventure, indicating adventures in a physical place. Since the dropping of the 's in the name it has come to represent less of the physical place and more of the inspiration of what California represents.

This is even indicated in the re-dedication speech:

To all who come to this place of dreams, welcome. Disney California Adventure celebrates the spirit of optimism and the promise of endless opportunities, ignited by the imagination of daring dreamers such as Walt Disney and those like him who forever changed- and were forever changed by- The Golden State. This unique place embraces the richness and diversity of California... Its land, its people, its stories and, above all, the dreamers it continues to inspire.
 
Hatbox Ghostbuster

Hatbox Ghostbuster

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DisneyIrishGuy said:
Too many people put too much emphasis on the word California. When the park started it was Disney's California Adventure, indicating adventures in a physical place. Since the dropping of the 's in the name it has come to represent less of the physical place and more of the inspiration of what California represents.

This is even indicated in the re-dedication speech:

To all who come to this place of dreams, welcome. Disney California Adventure celebrates the spirit of optimism and the promise of endless opportunities, ignited by the imagination of daring dreamers such as Walt Disney and those like him who forever changed- and were forever changed by- The Golden State. This unique place embraces the richness and diversity of California... Its land, its people, its stories and, above all, the dreamers it continues to inspire.
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In other words...the perfect park for a New York cityscape setting inhabited by superheroes??
 
Hatbox Ghostbuster

Hatbox Ghostbuster

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Put another way...DCA's MarvelLand will be less themed around an actual part of California, and more about the theme of California??

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SSG

SSG

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I think the whole 'California' debate is kind of moot. We all know Disney originally intended for DCA to have attractions based on places and things in California. Whether that was a good idea or not isn't really the point. The point is Disney has been moving away from that idea the past few years. And if Marvel goes into DCA in a big way, the California theme is reduced even more. If Disney isn't pursuing that theme where it counts--in the park--then the name of the park doesn't really matter much. For me, the name has no bearing on things I like or don't about DCA.
 
TROR

TROR

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SSG said:
I think the whole 'California' debate is kind of moot. We all know Disney originally intended for DCA to have attractions based on places and things in California. Whether that was a good idea or not isn't really the point. The point is Disney has been moving away from that idea the past few years. And if Marvel goes into DCA in a big way, the California theme is reduced even more. If Disney isn't pursuing that theme where it counts--in the park--then the name of the park doesn't really matter much. For me, the name has no bearing on things I like or don't about DCA.
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Don't understand the "Disney has been removing CA for the past few years" argument. Up until Mission Breakout, everything that has been added since 2008 has tied back to the California
 
Hatbox Ghostbuster

Hatbox Ghostbuster

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TROR said:
Don't understand the "Disney has been removing CA for the past few years" argument. Up until Mission Breakout, everything that has been added since 2008 has tied back to the California
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I think the CA theming has always been there, but has grown more ambiguous lately.
Radiator Springs isn't truly California. With the addition of Pixar Pier...the east coast has a ton of piers too.
Soarin' around the World is well...now global.

Having said all that though, no, the lack of direct CA connection doesn't make people love or hate the park any more than they normally would. For me, it's just a curious issue in how they're going to ultimately handle ML.
 
TROR

TROR

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Hatbox Ghostbuster said:
I think the CA theming has always been there, but has grown more ambiguous lately.
Radiator Springs isn't truly California. With the addition of Pixar Pier...the east coast has a ton of piers too.
Soarin' around the World is well...now global.
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Soarin' still ties back to the theme of aviation, at least. Cars Land expands on the themes of car culture and Route 66 that was once in Paradise Pier.
 
Hatbox Ghostbuster

Hatbox Ghostbuster

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TROR said:
Soarin' still ties back to the theme of aviation, at least. Cars Land expands on the themes of car culture and Route 66 that was once in Paradise Pier.
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Yeah...but to be fair, aviation was born on the East Coast in Ohio and North Carolina.

I'm just saying, they're not constructing areas like "San Francisco Land" or creating attractions around Yosemite. They're going to "California-vague" route.
 
Disney Irish

Disney Irish

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TROR said:
Soarin' still ties back to the theme of aviation, at least. Cars Land expands on the themes of car culture and Route 66 that was once in Paradise Pier.
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Hatbox Ghostbuster said:
Yeah...but to be fair, aviation was born on the East Coast in Ohio and North Carolina.

I'm just saying, they're not constructing areas like "San Francisco Land" or creating attractions around Yosemite. They're going to "California-vague" route.
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Which means again its not about the physical place of California but rather the things like the ideas and creations inspired by California.
 
SSG

SSG

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TROR said:
Don't understand the "Disney has been removing CA for the past few years" argument. Up until Mission Breakout, everything that has been added since 2008 has tied back to the California
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BVS, sure, California all the way. Cars Land? I know it's supposed to represent California car culture, but it's really generic desert and car culture is everywhere. And the town of Radiator Springs is located in Arizona. If you want proof, look at the map of Route 66 in Radiator Springs Curios, which specifically places the town in Arizona. Pixar Pier? Nothing evocative of California there. Soarin'? The aviation tie but it's growing tenuous. Marvel? Nope.
 

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