Haymarket2008
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Why invest in a themed bar if it is just going to be totally gutted within a year? Things just aren't adding up.
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Marvel coming to WDW?!?!
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Matt_Black
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The bar hasn't been confirmed at this point yet, has it?
GhostHost1000
Premium Member
If this happens to ToT this will rank as one of the stupidest ideas they have ever come up with....and they have a lot of them already (especially as of late)
StageFrenzy
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A themed bar is relatively cheap and super easy for Disney. It's F&B which means there is a quantifiable ROI and if they are serving alcohol it will be super quick. If they weren't planning it before I don't know why not now.
seabreezept813
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Sounds like you could just save yourself money and go to 6 flags or the local fair. Drop rides will always be around, so no worries there. Elaborately themed and visually stunning drop rides, well I guess those might not always be around. I don't have any kids of my own yet, but I always imagined that when I do I could bring them to Disney and they would experience the Disney magic. But with decisions like these, I'm not sure I will want to show anyone the Disney of the future. Of course, I'll keep hoping that an intervention of intelligence will occur.
lazyboy97o
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Then go to an amusement park and ride an S&S Double Drop.
Otamin
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This is an absolutely repulsive idea and one that sums up everything wrong with the company.
Unfortunately I've always put off riding the ride out of fear regarding the drop, but I was looking to change that on my visit early next year (I haven't been to WDW since 2008).
Unfortunately I've always put off riding the ride out of fear regarding the drop, but I was looking to change that on my visit early next year (I haven't been to WDW since 2008).
Mike S
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*Someone should paste Tower of Terror over the Statue of Liberty and make a nice gif.
If all you care for is the drop go to Six Flags Great Adventure and ride Zumanjaro (tallest in the world) and leave Tower of Terror to those of us with a taste for proper theming. I also suggest watching SyFy channel around New Years while they have a Twilight Zone marathon and educating yourself.
seabreezept813
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It's concerning that this topic seems to have been forgotten about here. As if defeat has already become the new reality. Even if this is unlikely or hyperbolic, I'll fire off some new emails just to make sure the Disney interns know about my disgust so I can pretend it will make a difference.
BrianLo
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THIS needs to be discussed. THIS is why these crap idea can come to fruition. The fan community has completely lost its voice thanks to all the absolute unimportant minutiae the community gnashes their teeth about every 2 minutes.
The boy who cried wolf, as it were. That comment from your source is so telling.
Anaheim in particular lost its rally behind their leader (Al Lutz) and now it might as well not have a voice at all.
if you cry wolf so many times your voice is ignored no doubt
AnotherDayAnotherDollar
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My post got deleted and I'm not gonna type everything again. Basically I don't have the attachment to ToT that you guys do and couldn't care less if they retheme it to GoTG or something else. I also don't care if they keep it the same. The underlying tech is good, the random dropness is good, and that's what's important to me. The theme is second fiddle to the tech to me. That's not to say I want some off the shelf machine. I do want a theme. I just don't care what that theme is as long as it is good.
Taking away the emotion, and from a business perspective, it makes sense to retheme it and get rid of it so they don't have to pay any more royalties to CBS. They are already gonna have to pay big royalties to Fox, so I'm sure they wanna keep that to a minimum. I will say that GoTG deserves much better, like Transformers or Spiderman attraction kind of investment, but Disney is not gonna build a super hero island anytime soon, and GoTG will join up with the avengers, so this might be temporary anyways.
Suggesting I go to Six Flags is laughable because those parks suck and it's not just because of the rides. Things change all the time and I don't cling on to history. I want more Harry Potters and Everquests in my theme parks, less dr. doom fall and space voyager or whatever that ride is they have at epcot.
Taking away the emotion, and from a business perspective, it makes sense to retheme it and get rid of it so they don't have to pay any more royalties to CBS. They are already gonna have to pay big royalties to Fox, so I'm sure they wanna keep that to a minimum. I will say that GoTG deserves much better, like Transformers or Spiderman attraction kind of investment, but Disney is not gonna build a super hero island anytime soon, and GoTG will join up with the avengers, so this might be temporary anyways.
Suggesting I go to Six Flags is laughable because those parks suck and it's not just because of the rides. Things change all the time and I don't cling on to history. I want more Harry Potters and Everquests in my theme parks, less dr. doom fall and space voyager or whatever that ride is they have at epcot.
Mike S
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I did like Aladdin though the one time I saw it.
Launchpad McQuack
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The New Fantastic Four (Hulk, Wolverine, Spider-Man, Ghost Rider) is still one of the most gloriously 90s inventions from Marvel, and I love it. The only thing more "90s" from Fantastic Four was Invisible Woman's weird "4 cleavage" costume.
Mike S
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"You're gonna wish you had 4 hands."
Wikkler
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Wouldn't it be just as good if the Storybook Land Canal Boats had no scenery? Just a concrete ditch.
Launchpad McQuack
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I don't get the whole idea that just because Guardians will appear in an Avengers brand movie that they will automatically fall under the Avengers "family" clause. If that were the case, they would already be in the Avengers family, as would almost all of the X-Men, Spider-Man, Daredevil, Luke Cage, Fantastic Four, Iron Fist, Jessica Jones, Silver Surfer, Galactus, Kang, Doctor Doom, Venom, etc since they have all appeared in Avengers comic books or cartoons at some point. It would be like saying Disney/Marvel can't make a Captain Marvel movie because she used to hang out with the X-Men during the Claremont era. I know movie and theme park rights are VERY different, but I feel like the same general idea applies. Plus, I'm assuming the Disney and Universal lawyers know the ins and outs a lot better than we do, so if they are going to use Guardians, they have the rights to Guardians.
All that being said, Guardians in ToT is the worst. I've said it before, but it deserves to be repeated. I hate this idea. I could accept them taking over RnRC. I would prefer just something entirely new.
All that being said, Guardians in ToT is the worst. I've said it before, but it deserves to be repeated. I hate this idea. I could accept them taking over RnRC. I would prefer just something entirely new.
Cesar R M
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lots of insults in spanish.. I'm proud!
Cesar R M
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Meh, I'm more interested in the Foundation 4.
I still wonder why the hell Spiderman has been member of both Xmen (as teacher) AND fantastic four (as assistant and caretaker)
lazyboy97o
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Lutz's attitude towards Disneyland is exactly why there is a reactionary push towards these types of quick and cheap projects. He never argued from any sort of theory of theme. His biggest concern with these types of projects was if a person he liked was in change and the expense, the more lavish the better and doubly better if it was more than Walt Disney World was spending. So long as its overly expensive and ornamented the "committed" Disneyland locals will hop on board.