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Marvel coming to WDW?!?!

Rodan75

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What if Universal made Snow White and Peter Pan rides?
It is certainly possible. The public domain gets pretty icky pretty quickly for everyone.

Although it seems doubtful that Universal or anyone else (beside DIS) will touch Snow White or Peter Pan anytime soon after what happened with PAN and what is looking like what will happen with Winters War.
 

doctornick

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Assuming that a character is not part of the Fantastic Four and Avengers 'Families' just because they had their first appearance in FF or were once an Avenger and are not currently leveraged in a more than incidental way at IoA which groups would be considered available for WDW?
  • Guardians of the Galaxy
  • Inhumans
  • BH6
  • Squadron Supreme and any 'New Universe' characters
  • Netflix's Defenders? (Daredevil, Luke Cage, Iron Fist, JJ, Hellcat, Punisher)
  • Ghost Rider?
  • Blade ?
  • Agents of Atlas
Hmmm, you brought up a very interesting option... The Squadron Supreme. I have no idea if Marvel plans to use them at all, but they are in a whole different reality (the evil version of that group from the mainstream Marvel universe is the Squadron Sinister). Doing something like an animated film (a la BH6) or a Marvel Studios film, but detached from the MCU might be something to bring those characters some more mainstream attention. They are pretty classic archetype heroes being based on DC's Justice League and I could see them being used effectively in a theme park land.

Two other groups I would think about:
1. Power Pack -- this group of kids aren't related to the characters at Uni except when Franklin Richards was a member. It's talked about that they would be a natural fit for the Big Hero 6 treatment of an animated, family friendly movie and could be used in the parks as long as Franklin Richards isn't involved.
2. Runaways -- this is a group that has had a film treatment done and was previously in talks for inclusion in the MCU. Wouldn't be shocked if we see a movie, or at least a TV series, at some point and I think they'd be usable in the parks.
 

asianway

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Assuming that a character is not part of the Fantastic Four and Avengers 'Families' just because they had their first appearance in FF or were once an Avenger and are not currently leveraged in a more than incidental way at IoA which groups would be considered available for WDW?
  • Guardians of the Galaxy
  • Inhumans
  • BH6
  • Squadron Supreme and any 'New Universe' characters
  • Netflix's Defenders? (Daredevil, Luke Cage, Iron Fist, JJ, Hellcat, Punisher)
  • Ghost Rider?
  • Blade ?
  • Agents of Atlas
Families Clearly within Universal's east of the Mississippi Theme Park rights:
  • The Avengers
  • X-Men (and likely all mutants)
  • Fantastic Four
  • Hulk
  • Original Defenders/Invaders
  • Spider-Man
Are there any other Marvel family groups? Obviously Universal has all of the big ones represented clearly and beyond incidentally. It would be hard for Disney to use any of the families they have control over outside of Guardians or BH6 at the Theme Parks.
You would have a hard time convincing anyone the Inhumans are not in the FF family
 
I hope Sandler is next, he hasn't been funny in quite a bit of time.
He learned that by making films like Blended and Just Go with It, he essentially gets paid to be on vacation while making a 2 hour informercial for the hotels he is staying at and after the films regardless of if they are flops, attendance and room occupancy has gone up particularly the resort used in the film Blended.
 

doctornick

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You would have a hard time convincing anyone the Inhumans are not in the FF family
All depends on how broadly "family" is defined; the documents don't really make it clear and it would be up to the lawyers to duke it out. That said, I would think Crystal and Medusa are definitely out, given that they've been a members of the FF.

Edit: That said, I'd find it hard to argue that the Agents of SHIELD/MCU version of Inhumans -- where they are a surrogate for Mutants -- would be prohibited by the Uni contract. Maybe the Royal Family would be excluded (I think that's in the gray area) but using Quake and the folks in AoS would likely be fine (or an attraction based on the notion that you, the guest, are an Inhuman and get powers when exposed to the Terrigen Mist).
 

Mike S

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Throw Tomb of Dracula in DHS and watch smoke come out of Uni's collective ears. Gotta love the Public Domain. Speaking of, if they wanted, I don't see why Marvel couldn't do something with a bunch of Golden Age Public Domain characters, like the original Daredevil or the Fox Features Syndicate Thor and then put those guys in somewhere, to up the trolling exponentially.
Thor would've been a much better fit for Norway. Uni can't stop Disney from using a new depiction of a Norse God can they? Like you said, gotta love the public domain.
 
Thor would've been a much better fit for Norway. Uni can't stop Disney from using a new depiction of a Norse God can they? Like you said, gotta love the public domain.
They can. Disney/Marvel screwed up by pretty much putting all the Marvel Characters into one cinematic universe. The only ones for sure they can use are Big Hero 6 as they never were an avenger or an x-men nor part of fantastic 4. (Blade is also off limits as he was an avenger) and yes Universal can argue that even if they use the New depiction of Thor (which is female), Universal already has the rights to any styling of the character Marvel has approved of. And with Disney putting 67+ superheroes in Infinity Wars films they all become for sure without a doubt under the Avenger family.
 

Mike S

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They can. Disney/Marvel screwed up by pretty much putting all the Marvel Characters into one cinematic universe. The only ones for sure they can use are Big Hero 6 as they never were an avenger or an x-men nor part of fantastic 4. (Blade is also off limits as he was an avenger) and yes Universal can argue that even if they use the New depiction of Thor (which is female), Universal already has the rights to any styling of the character Marvel has approved of. And with Disney putting 67+ superheroes in Infinity Wars films they all become for sure without a doubt under the Avenger family.
I didn't mean the female Thor. I meant making a ride about the mythical Norse God with zero ties to anything Marvel. It's public domain.
 

Matt_Black

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Pinocchio is in the Shrek pre-show. The characters themselves are public domain, they just can't use Disney's representation of those characters.
Indeed. For further clarification, other versions of Snow White give different names to the dwarfs, because in the original story, they didn't have names. Disney named them and, more importantly, copyrighted and trademarked them.
 

Matt_Black

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arent them more related to the xmen anyway?
I mean, they are mutated/uplifted by the Kree.
How does that connect them to the X-Men? The alien race the X-Men have ahad the most contact with is the Shi'ar. You could say that because of the Kree/ Shi'ar War, that's the connection, but that is incredibly tenuous, at best. The only other Kree/ X-Men connection is Rogue/ Carol Danvers, and that's very long and complicated and makes my head hurt thinking about it.

EDIT: I just remembered that Crystal and Quicksilver were married and have a daughter. So there's that too.
 
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Matt_Black

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Medusa took sue storms slot when she had Franklin
To be fair, a LOT of people have been on the Fantastic Four. Other substitute members include but are not limited to the Hulk, She-Hulk, Crystal, Ms. Marvel (no, not Carol, and now, not the current one, either), Ant-Man, Spider-Man, Wolverine, Ghost Rider, the Black Panther, Namor, Luke Cage, and probably several others I'm forgetting.
 

WDW1974

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Original Poster
Haven't been back here hardly at all since I broke this news a month ago and as much as I hate to break it to the naysayers, things are still moving forward on both coasts.

From a well-placed source:

"The Tower project is moving along through approvals and design refinements, and the project now has a proposed timeline that closes the attraction this October instead of January as a more elaborate pre-show and queue plan has been given the thumbs up by TDA.

The project isn't formally funded yet as part of Fiscal '17, that won't happen until June or July, but WDI keeps getting happy words and encouragement from TDA and Burbank. TDA could care less about the upset fans, as they consider them to be of the same variety that were upset about Aladdin and Mad T Party closing. TDO continues to balk at the price tag but Chapek thinks the Guardians franchise is the right way to go long term. "

In other words, almost a done deal for Anaheim and still likely for Orlando ... please stick that in your Tweeter!
 
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