Mansion stretch room too frightening for children

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GrammieBee

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While princessfaire is certainly entitled to her opinion and has defended it despite all of the negativity showered upon her posts, what is scary is that her thinking has morphed, in her mind, into a crusade for all young children not to be scared or upset by anything in her concept of a warm and fuzzy Walt Disney World. She truly believes that because it is "Disney" every ride and attraction should be suitable for every child no matter how young or timid they are. She wants a place that is essentially a kiddyland where everything is fluffy and mushy and has said that if we don't agree with her we need to go someplace else.

What is worse, because of the standard letter she received in response to her complaint, she now believes that Disney really listened to her, agrees with her and is working to change the park to the way she thinks it should be. She has absolutely no concept that she and her child need to adapt to the park rather than the park adapting to her. Plus she certainly has no idea of the underlying principle of the Disney parks that there should be something for everyone to enjoy; not that everyone should or would enjoy everything.

Save us from those who are sure they know what is best for the rest of us because their way is the right way.
 
mouse_luv

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Mr Ferret 88 said:
There was hot cheese in the Stretching room ???
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Okay that would be absolutely EPIC! I didn't think they could make my fave ride any better (other than maybe adding Hatty), but hot plastic cheese just may be it. ;)

GrammieBee said:
While princessfaire is certainly entitled to her opinion and has defended it despite all of the negativity showered upon her posts, what is scary is that her thinking has morphed, in her mind, into a crusade for all young children not to be scared or upset by anything in her concept of a warm and fuzzy Walt Disney World. She truly believes that because it is "Disney" every ride and attraction should be suitable for every child no matter how young or timid they are. She wants a place that is essentially a kiddyland where everything is fluffy and mushy and has said that if we don't agree with her we need to go someplace else.

What is worse, because of the standard letter she received in response to her complaint, she now believes that Disney really listened to her, agrees with her and is working to change the park to the way she thinks it should be. She has absolutely no concept that she and her child need to adapt to the park rather than the park adapting to her. Plus she certainly has no idea of the underlying principle of the Disney parks that there should be something for everyone to enjoy; not that everyone should or would enjoy everything.

Save us from those who are sure they know what is best for the rest of us because their way is the right way.
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This! Thank you. I'd hate for her to go to DLR anytime and ride the HM there with her special jr. snowflake. Hatty would scare the ever living $#%#^ out of her and then she would be protesting to remove him too. :mad:
 
ninjaprincesst

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PrincessFairest said:
Parents should not need to adjust when visitng a place called Walt Disney World aka a place design for family and children. It is the people who always have to have thrill or scary attractions in order to have fun who need to visit six flags, Universal or busch Garden where those requests can be met. If I take my daughter to those places and she is scared it is not right for me to complain there, as those parks are designed to be age specific and have rides or shows that cater to audience which can handle scares. But disney is not those kind of parks and which is why we love it there. Oh and Disney agrees with me! Have gotten back a email response from last week and they agree and said will continue to provide and improve ride and attractions to accomodate all its guests. Do not believe me? I can foward you the email. and this is the type of service and understanding we have come to expect from Disney which is why we will return for years to come. It is what disney does that no other theme park or company can match. Sorry you do not feel the same way but it is good to know the company itself does not see me as a bad parent for wanting my child to enjoy all ride and attraction the park has to offer.
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You obviously don't even know you were given a brush you off standard form letter they are not going to change the whole park because your kid was afraid. So I guess Disney world is only supposed to be for 2 year olds and have no attractions that are not for a 2 year old. Come on woman get over yourself.
 
Goofyernmost

Goofyernmost

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GrammieBee said:
Save us from those who are sure they know what is best for the rest of us because their way is the right way.
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That certainly is the world we live in today isn't it? People killing people because they don't agree with anyone else's beliefs. Put downs from people that should be responsible leaders, instead of plans, just complaints. It is indeed a sad, sad place right now, this world of ours.
 
The Empress Lilly

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Dole Whip Happy Hour said:
For some people newer to the Magic Kingdom, the Mansion could be a surprise.

Many of the rides especially in Fantasyland are little kid friendly, so sweet, lovable, fun, wonderful, and magical ( I could go on). Walking though Main Street and Fantasyland, after It's a Small World and the Peter Pan ride, and seeing Tangled bathrooms, I don't think it is a stretch for a parent to think "how scary could it be?" about the Mansion. They have seen how little kid friendly the Magical Kingdom has been at that point, and let their parent guards down. Only to end up very surprised at the ride and be dealing with some very upset kids. I don't see this as bad parenting, or not having prepared their kids enough for the ride.
Yes, it's a parent fail, but can you see how it could happens? how a parent might feel a little peeved about it.

I don't think this means they should change the ride in any way..I would suggest they put up a sign warning people the ride could be scary for little ones, but no one would read it, let alone pay attention to it....Except for the few that have a beef with the ride and would use the sign to defend what ever position they take up. See you Honor, we have proof Disney acknowledges the ride is.....
I have a friend whose 2nd grader could watch Nightmare on Elm Street and laugh her butt off....my son at 5 years old had to run from the room when Dora went into the Spooky Forest. He is 13 now and loves the Tower of Terror.... Everyone is different, they learn and develop differently. There is no way one person should choose what's best for the millions that will see that ride or argue against the millions that have seen it. But one person could see something of value that millions have missed.

If your kids are a little apprehensive about loud noises, sights or darkness, then going to a ride named The Haunted Mansion should be check out before getting in line, but even going online at disenyworld.com, part of the description of the Haunted Mansion is...
Creepy Fun for Little Ones
The Haunted Mansion contains some mildly frightening subject matter. But there is no gore, the ghostly residents are friendly and the experience is appropriate for all ages.

while this is true, "Mildly frightening" is very subjective here when it comes to smaller children.
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Ah, a thoughtful reply in between the bullying.

"I would suggest they put up a sign warning people the ride could be scary for little ones, but no one would read it,"​

I would argue there was a warning. Once upon a time, before lesser gods waxed feathers for wings and sought to soar to the same heights as the gods before them and messed with the MK's near flawless design, the whole run-up to the Mansion WAS the warning sign. Classic Disney design didn't need a warning sign so tell something spooky was coming up, the way it didn't need forty foot marquees to mark an entrance.
They solved it by an eerie walk away from the small kid friendly zone of Fantasyland, now compromised with Rapunzel and a giftshop and clutter. Then you would slowly walk up to the eerie mansion, along a graveyard, the foreboding Mansion looming above you, wolves howling in the distance, as you finally entered the family crypt...

People got the message. Nowadays, you enter through a kiddie playground. Because modern designers had forgotten why the run-up to the Mansion was the way it was. They plussed (minussed) it thoughtlessly, at least mistakenly, with cartoony faces, doing cartoony games. With a brightly coloured Mansion, behind nice trees and with playful clutter everywhere. How is one supposed to know anymore that something scary is coming up? The scares hit the visitor unexpectedly, rather than as the logical next step in a sequence of events, of a singular mood. What's more, all the scares are now beyond the point of no return.

(Also, no, one does not read an elaborate guidebook before every attraction. Get real. Besides, visitors should be free to enjoy their time and surroundings, to get caught up in the moment, rather than look in their spreadsheet)

Vintage: Spooky! Danger lurking!
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Modern: Look kids, bubbles!
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Seabasealpha1

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PrincessFairest said:
We recently returned from a 11 day Disney trip March 4 - 14. Exhausting but worth every minute of it. yet there are a few things I noticed and am concerned about, mainly the Haunted Mansion stretch room toward the beginning of the attraction. This was the first trip for our only daughter faire age 5. We thought this would be a good age for her first visit as it would be when she would be old enough to remember alot of the magic yet young enough to believe in the magic. One thing that really got her upset and in tears was the opening scene to Haunted Mansion at MagicKingdom. We never expected there would be a few moments of total darkness plus the lightning and scream nearly sent her into a fit. Disney is a place for families with children!!!!! I was appalled at how no cast member told us we probably should not take her into that scene. We spoke to a cast member at the ride exit who smiled to cheer her up, but still that beginning scene needs to either be changed or removed if disney is going to market as a family park for children. The rest of the ride is amazing, as our little princess faire could sit close to mommy and daddy if scared and there was no pitch black darkness. The music was fun and the characters inside the ride were more appropriate for children during most of the scenes. The beginning however really disturbed her and made her not wanting to ride too much more that day as she was still in shock of the total darkness. The majority of our vacation was great besides that one moment of terror in my daughters eyes. Please consider an update or change in the stretch room, maybe just to remove the total darkness to take into consideration the emotions and vulnerability of the child. When older she will learn to appreciate the ride for what it is as a classic.
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I just saw this one...and...

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Punzle

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I have to say I am still a little scared of the Haunted Mansion, but it's not the two seconds of darkness that scares me. It's the creepy paintings and evil things trying to bust out of the doors. Then I remind myself I am a fully grown adult and its not real.
 
MrHappy

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I went from having defended her, to wanting to offend her (but I won't). However, one more post by the princess and I think I'll go to the next stage...Compromise. Like, keep the lights off but lets not 'drag ourselves into the dead center' as not to go elbow to elbow with strangers. I'll write a letter :facepalm:
 
Cesar R M

Cesar R M

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Goofyernmost said:
That certainly is the world we live in today isn't it? People killing people because they don't agree with anyone else's beliefs. Put downs from people that should be responsible leaders, instead of plans, just complaints. It is indeed a sad, sad place right now, this world of ours.
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pretty sure its always been this way. Except dumb people now have very easy ways to get heard everywhere.
The youtube memes of people doing and saying stupid things is a very fine example.
And people have killed each other for dumb stuff since humanity started. We only evolved on the reasons.
Instead of killing each other for the last apple the other troglodyte has.. humans now kill for losing in a Ps3 game.

So technically, humanity as always been a facepalming creature. :hilarious:
 
Goofyernmost

Goofyernmost

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Cesar R M said:
pretty sure its always been this way. Except dumb people now have very easy ways to get heard everywhere.
The youtube memes of people doing and saying stupid things is a very fine example.
And people have killed each other for dumb stuff since humanity started. We only evolved on the reasons.
Instead of killing each other for the last apple the other troglodyte has.. humans now kill for losing in a Ps3 game.

So technically, humanity as always been a facepalming creature. :hilarious:
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True, but, it has had it's ups and downs over the years. It is far more intense right now because of the explosion of the media. WWII was a report of trouble in other lands so we felt isolated from it. It didn't affect us so we turned our heads away from it. It was reported, it just didn't generate any concern until Dec. 7, 1941, then all of a sudden it became our only focus. So you are correct, the human race is a colossal fail. As a group we are all dumber then a bucket of rocks and as gullible as any allegedly educated carbon based creatures can possibly be.
 
LindsaySue2

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PrincessFairest said:
We recently returned from a 11 day Disney trip March 4 - 14. Exhausting but worth every minute of it. yet there are a few things I noticed and am concerned about, mainly the Haunted Mansion stretch room toward the beginning of the attraction. This was the first trip for our only daughter faire age 5. We thought this would be a good age for her first visit as it would be when she would be old enough to remember alot of the magic yet young enough to believe in the magic. One thing that really got her upset and in tears was the opening scene to Haunted Mansion at MagicKingdom. We never expected there would be a few moments of total darkness plus the lightning and scream nearly sent her into a fit. Disney is a place for families with children!!!!! I was appalled at how no cast member told us we probably should not take her into that scene. We spoke to a cast member at the ride exit who smiled to cheer her up, but still that beginning scene needs to either be changed or removed if disney is going to market as a family park for children. The rest of the ride is amazing, as our little princess faire could sit close to mommy and daddy if scared and there was no pitch black darkness. The music was fun and the characters inside the ride were more appropriate for children during most of the scenes. The beginning however really disturbed her and made her not wanting to ride too much more that day as she was still in shock of the total darkness. The majority of our vacation was great besides that one moment of terror in my daughters eyes. Please consider an update or change in the stretch room, maybe just to remove the total darkness to take into consideration the emotions and vulnerability of the child. When older she will learn to appreciate the ride for what it is as a classic.
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I'm so sorry your daughter had a bad experience. But I disagree that the ride needs to be changed. As others have pointed out every child reacts differently. My daughter always loved this ride and yet was afraid of butterflies at a local butterfly pavilion. Go figure. For future reference you should go on YouTube and believe me there are videos on EVERY single ride in the parks. It will give you a better idea of what to expect and what to avoid for your specific child's needs. Again I'm so sorry she had a bad experience and hopefully with time it will be something she can look back on and laugh about.
 
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