Man falls out of Balcony at Contemporary Resort

[bgraham34]

My cousin just told me about this and I checked the forums, dang that is terrible but It is amazing how often things like this happen around the country.

 

[AngryEyes]

It seems the preferred jump location in Las Vegas is the parking garage. Lots of openings, plenty of height, and pavement below, in most cases. Again, you don't hear about most of them.

 

[Woody13]

Baker Act

suicide, IS in most states, Illegal....but it's all in how the laws are written. If you are crossing the streat and you take one step outside the crosswalk, you could be arrested, but they typically don't.

inflicting bodily harm to someone OR yourself is indeed illegal, no matter if you die as a cause of it or not. Plus, you are putting others in danger. we all know you can't prosecute a dead person, but dead or alive, they still commited a crime. Now, whether they actually charge you with anything, is HIGHLY doubtful.

Since you are from Florida you should know about the Baker Act. All people that attempt suicide in Florida are presumed to be mentally ill. Law Enforcement Officers and hospital emergency room doctors in the state of Florida must "Baker Act" all persons suspected of attempted suicide. There are both criminal and civil penalties if responsible professionals fail to remand suicidal persons to involuntary treatment.

It's Chapter 394 of the Florida Statues-known as the Florida Mental Health Act or the Baker Act.

P.S. People that attempt suicide in the state of Florida will not be charged with a crime!<O</O

 

[MrNonacho]

Hopefully to put the smiley portion of this discussion to rest, they also appear at the end of Woody's post just above mine. It's just an artifact of copying and pasting.

 

[Woody13]

Can't leave this one alone.

For the most part, suicide (or it's attempt) is not illegal. Most states (if not all) have laws that allow law enforcement to take someone into custody for a mental evaluation by a mental health professional. As far as a punishible offense, think about it...someone commits suicide. What are you going to do, prosecute a corpse?

And as far as stopping someone from trying to commit suicide...yes. Healthy organisms repel anything harmful to the organism. This is a basic rule of biology and science as we know it. People who try to harm themselves are probably (note - probably) suffering from some form of mental illness. They at least deserve intervention and a chance of getting help.

Of course, there are other dynamics involved with people who want to terminate their lives due to terminal illness and similar circumstances.

So, yes, Woody, I would try to stop you. Because I care. :wave:

Excellent post (as usual) and you know your stuff! You have wisely left the door open for self-deliverance.

 

[Pumbas Nakasak]

left the door open for self-deliverance.

Is the postal service that bad?

 

[Peter Parker]

New member of forum

Not exactly what I had in mind when I registered to this forum. You just got to hope that their were no kids present to witness this.

 

[Woody13]

Is the postal service that bad?

Yes it is. That's why in the U.S. we have the expression, "going postal". It's a euphemism for death.

 

[fngoofy]

Type-o, I imagine, since we just past JUNE 4-5.

Seems very odd that someone would go to WDW to finish it all off. I'm going to make a guess that he suffered from medically diagnosed depression and/or was intoxicated.

WDW is actualy a very popular place for "offing" oneself.

Happiest place on earth?

Gotta be better than the unhappiest place on earth.

I can only imaging some of the front desk conversations:

CM: Ok, and checkout will be on 6/12 @ 11:00am
Guest: Yeah, that's what you think...

or

Guest: I specificly asked for a room with a parking lot view...

or

CM: Disney Priority Seating, how can I help you?
Guest: I need to book 8 reservations to the SciFi Drive Inn
CM: Ok, that's 8 for diner
Guest: No, dinner for 8 days...yeah, 5 should do it, but to be on the safe side, let's make it 8

or

Guest: What time is the 3 o'clock parade?
CM: I'll be right back...

 

[Woody13]

Hopefully to put the smiley portion of this discussion to rest, they also appear at the end of Woody's post just above mine. It's just an artifact of copying and pasting.

It's because you use Mozilla Firefox as your Web browser! They don't show up in IE.

 

[AEfx]

It's because you use Mozilla Firefox as your Web browser! They don't show up in IE.

A few errant smiley faces is a small price to pay for not using Internet Exploiter.

AEfx

 

[Woody13]

A few errant smiley faces is a small price to pay for not using Internet Exploiter.

AEfx

That's true, on a Disney site. However, I visit several secure sites that will not allow Firefox. I would never use Firefox on a banking site for example nor would I use it for a credit card transaction or anything requiring security.

 

[AEfx]

That's true, on a Disney site. However, I visit several secure sites that will not allow Firefox. I would never use Firefox on a banking site for example nor would I use it for a credit card transaction or anything requiring security.

It's site specific, obviously.

I have no problem establishing secure connections with any sites - and still I trust FireFox more because of the inherent security in not using IE.

To each their own, I guess.

AEfx

 

[Ziggie]

I use Firefox almost exclusively (on the recommendation of my Hubby's IT guy). Also, you can setup Firefox to launch certain pages/sites via IE.

 

[mkt]

I still use Opera, and pay for it... because, I can't stand IE, and I don't care for Firefox

 

[Woody13]

- and still I trust FireFox more because of the inherent security in not using IE.AEfx

You can turn off Active X anytime you wish. Don't fall for the "added security" ploy. Firefox is full of big holes.

 

[speck76]

Not exactly what I had in mind when I registered to this forum. You just got to hope that their were no kids present to witness this.

whatever.....

nothing like hiding reality from children to "keep them safe"

 

[AEfx]

You can turn off Active X anytime you wish. Don't fall for the "added security" ploy. Firefox is full of big holes.

I don't fall for anything, Woody. It's based on personal experience.

My computer use to pick up bugs, spyware, malware, and browser hijacks all the time.

None of that happens in FireFox. I have not had one instance of spyware, never had my browser hijacked, and not had one piece of ad-ware make it to my PC.

This isn't the place for this discussion, but regardless : FireFox is inherently more secure in the first place because 99.9% of "bad" things out there are written for IE specificly. This may change in the future, but I'd much rather be using a program that has openly available code than from a company that hides it all away and we can't see really what they are doing.

Then again, if I was worried about "security" I'd be much more worried about companies like CitiBank who loose 3.9 million customer records that include SS#'s and the fact that I know that stuff happens all the time - not so much that someone is going to hack my PC and intercept my order for Amazon.

AEfx

 

[AEfx]

whatever.....

nothing like hiding reality from children to "keep them safe"

Speck, I'd like to give you the benefit of the doubt, but I believe the person whom you replied to was speaking in the past tense (grammar mistake or not) saying that they have to hope that no children who were there to "witness this", as in the subject of the thread, not the thread itself (as a thread isn't time specific to be witnessed). They did say they didn't expect to read this topic when they registered; I believe they were making two different points.

Regardless, even if they were refering to the thread, it's still shamefull of you to say - if you really think of worrying about exposing children who are at Disney World (or reading about it) to a dead body splattered on the ground is "hiding them from reality", then you must be one sick individual. An adult would be easily traumatized by this, much less a child. Not everyone has this sad, stoic attitude you'd wish us to believe you have.

I'm all for being practical, and I think the majority of parents over protect their kids to a damaging extent, but seriously - the callous attitude you have presented on this topic is really disturbing already - even for you. I hope you weren't suggesting what I think you were. Really, for your own personal well-being.

Are you really that much of a heartless individual, or do you just play one on this website?

AEfx

 

[Pumbas Nakasak]

Because if you really think of worrying about exposing children who are at Disney World to a dead body splattered on the ground is "hiding them from reality",

I'm all for being practical, and I think the majority of parents over protect their kids to a damaging extent,

AEfx

Speaking as a parent I have mixed feelings on this, I dont want to expose them to splattered bodies, especially at somewhere that is associated with childhood and innocence, Im sure that amplifies the effect of the unpleasantness.

And I would definately agree that throughout the western world, largely thanks to media sensationalism, we have denied our kids the freedoms that we had through feers of abduction etc. We have compoundedthis buy trying to shelter them form the harsh realities. I found myself getting very angry having returned from a tour in the Balkans, at my kids moaning about really trivial things, having witnesed and heard some of, mans worse traits.

I suppose if they are going to be confronted with such horrors it is best done with some support and security near buy. I think death should be less of a taboo , just I like to keep reality and Disney apart.

Sorry for the thread drift ,