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Man Accused of Stealing Buzzy's Clothing from Disney World Arrested

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NoFunInBand

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Bullseye1967 said:
You would be amazed how many guilty people give you permission to search somewhere that may incriminate them. Mind if I look in your garage, so I can write in my report that you weren't involved? Do you care if I check your car real quick, so I can get you back on your way? You would be surprised what people agree to if you ask the right way.
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I took a digital forensics class in college and the professor could not stress enough to always just ask the suspect what their password is. Because more often than not they'll just... tell you. Even if there's, let's say, really really bad stuff on there. Kinda weird how that is.
 
My95cobras

My95cobras

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flynnibus said:
Thx for your input. Yeah, as you say at the end, it was in plain sight so I think it moot. But my question comes from the point where they ordered him (not asked him) to put the phone on the table and how that could play out otherwise. To me that was the point I was curious about.. If it's an instruction/order.. not a request.. and how the person understands that instruction.

For instance.. lets assume Spikes walks into the interview room (w/o phone in hand) and they say "Can you put your phone on the table?". Is that a request, or is that an order for him to comply with? If it's seen as an order... is that a search of his person? Or is that him voluntarily putting phone out there?

As we've all said in this particular case.. he's sitting there texting on his phone so its in plain view.. so then it's just about securing it. But I'm trying to distinquish how much of a mistake he made in having it out.. vs if he kept it on his person and out of sight would he have been able to keep it from being seized?

But he would have had to deny having it on them.. because given the progression we saw, I'd expect the police to simply ask him questions about his phone that would try to lure him into revealing it.

Based on your experience and what you saw... Do you think this meeting was all about securing that phone from the start?
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I believe that was a part of it, but interviewing has many angles. If you go in looking to only accomplish one thing and only one angle, you won’t get far.

Like an attorney, know the answers to the questions before you ask them.

I have another question. What did they do with the car? They said leave the car where it is... where was it?
 
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RaveOnEd

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My95cobras said:
I believe that was a part of it, but interviewing has many angles. If you go in looking to only accomplish one thing and only one angle, you won’t get far.

Like an attorney, know the answers to the questions before you ask them.

I have another question. What did they do with the car? They said leave the car where it is... where was it?
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He probably drove it there and it's parked outside the station.
 
Bullseye1967

Bullseye1967

Is that who I am?
Premium Member
flynnibus said:
Thx for your input. Yeah, as you say at the end, it was in plain sight so I think it moot. But my question comes from the point where they ordered him (not asked him) to put the phone on the table and how that could play out otherwise. To me that was the point I was curious about.. If it's an instruction/order.. not a request.. and how the person understands that instruction.

For instance.. lets assume Spikes walks into the interview room (w/o phone in hand) and they say "Can you put your phone on the table?". Is that a request, or is that an order for him to comply with? If it's seen as an order... is that a search of his person? Or is that him voluntarily putting phone out there?

As we've all said in this particular case.. he's sitting there texting on his phone so its in plain view.. so then it's just about securing it. But I'm trying to distinquish how much of a mistake he made in having it out.. vs if he kept it on his person and out of sight would he have been able to keep it from being seized?

But he would have had to deny having it on them.. because given the progression we saw, I'd expect the police to simply ask him questions about his phone that would try to lure him into revealing it.

Based on your experience and what you saw... Do you think this meeting was all about securing that phone from the start?
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I have no doubt the interview was 80% or greater about getting his phone. The other 20% was just seeing what they could get out of him. Getting the phone was the next logical step in the investigation. Chances were very high he would have it with him.

Answering your other question, If he denied having the phone on his person, they could not legally have taken it from him. But if they suspected he did have it, the next step would be to advise him that lying to the police can result in him being charged with obstruction among other things. The idea about calling the phone to see if it rings in his pocket is absolutely legal. A traffic stop after he left the station for some minor infraction and the officer routinely checking him for weapons would probably been the step after that. One way or another I have no doubt they were going to get that phone,
 
OrlandoRising

OrlandoRising

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GhostlyGoofy said:
With your FOIA request can you say if you spotted anything further regarding Buzzy's whereabouts?
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Other than further confirmation that the AA was stolen, no. OCSO's statement remains the same: Buzzy has not been recovered and the theft investigation is still active.

If the police had information about Buzzy's whereabouts, they'd be using that in the investigation.
 

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