Man Accused of Stealing Buzzy's Clothing from Disney World Arrested

ParadoxPortals

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DreamfinderGuy said:
This is what they’ve wanted for the last seven years. The whole story is horrible optics for them.
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This is why I feel like it has to be that Buzzy was stolen, not lost in the Archives. Disney could've dealt with this drama years ago by showing him off at a D23 nonchalantly which would've quickly ended the fan community's speculation; *someone* had to know Buzzy was sent to the Archives; if he is there then he must be findable and a high value target worth the effort to locate. I feel like the police reports have to point to something (IE a real theft).
 
WaluigiTime

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ParadoxPortals said:
This is why I feel like it has to be that Buzzy was stolen, not lost in the Archives. Disney could've dealt with this drama years ago by showing him off at a D23 nonchalantly which would've quickly ended the fan community's speculation; *someone* had to know Buzzy was sent to the Archives; if he is there then he must be findable and a high value target worth the effort to locate. I feel like the police reports have to point to something (IE a real theft).
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What baffles me is that Buzzy was incredibly heavy and washing machine sized.
 
DreamfinderGuy

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ParadoxPortals said:
This is why I feel like it has to be that Buzzy was stolen, not lost in the Archives. Disney could've dealt with this drama years ago by showing him off at a D23 nonchalantly which would've quickly ended the fan community's speculation; *someone* had to know Buzzy was sent to the Archives; if he is there then he must be findable and a high value target worth the effort to locate. I feel like the police reports have to point to something (IE a real theft).
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Consider how poor it would have looked for them to admit they let a story get out of hand and the police continue an investigation after they figured out they had him the whole time. That is why we will never see him at a D23 Expo
 
OrlandoRising

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ParadoxPortals said:
This is why I feel like it has to be that Buzzy was stolen, not lost in the Archives. Disney could've dealt with this drama years ago by showing him off at a D23 nonchalantly which would've quickly ended the fan community's speculation; *someone* had to know Buzzy was sent to the Archives; if he is there then he must be findable and a high value target worth the effort to locate. I feel like the police reports have to point to something (IE a real theft).
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The police reports are the proof that the theft happened.

But hey, what do I know, I'm just an actual journalist.
DreamfinderGuy said:
Consider how poor it would have looked for them to admit they let a story get out of hand and the police continue an investigation after they figured out they had him the whole time.
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The narrative that Disney knowingly misled the police for years is baseless speculation, and frankly, it's coming from people like you who seem to be chasing clout and just want attention.
 
DreamfinderGuy

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OrlandoRising said:
The narrative that Disney knowingly misled the police for years is baseless speculation, and frankly, it's coming from people like you who seem to be chasing clout and just want attention.
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I'm not sure what kind of clout chasing I could possibly be doing at this point for a story that has been out of the news cycle and most people's minds for six years now. I was already the person to break the story originally and I'm featured in a documentary about it, I don't think I could wring more clout out of this if I tried. Whether Disney has the figure or some collector has him, we're not seeing him again at this rate.

It's not baseless either, as you know I've been tied to this story for a long time now and wouldn't suddenly change my opinion so drastically unless I was given good reason to. The only hard facts we have for this case are that the clothes were stolen, the figure was removed, and police reports were made for both. Beyond that it's all speculation.
 
OrlandoRising

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DreamfinderGuy said:
It's not baseless either, as you know I've been tied to this story for a long time now and wouldn't suddenly change my opinion so drastically unless I was given good reason to.
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But it is baseless, because you've yet to provide any actual evidence to refute police records that the theft happened. Your opinion isn't evidence.
 
Sir_Cliff

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OrlandoRising said:
The narrative that Disney knowingly misled the police for years is baseless speculation, and frankly, it's coming from people like you who seem to be chasing clout and just want attention.
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Maybe I am being naïve here, but wouldn't Disney get in quite a bit of trouble if they falsely reported a theft? It would be one thing if the report was subsequently amended to show the item had been found, but my understanding was that the investigation was suspended or paused. Surely they'd be in trouble if they found Buzzy and just didn't tell the police?
 
lazyboy97o

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DreamfinderGuy said:
Consider how poor it would have looked for them to admit they let a story get out of hand and the police continue an investigation after they figured out they had him the whole time. That is why we will never see him at a D23 Expo
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Consider that it’s a crime to knowingly make false statements to the police regarding an investigation. You’re entire premise is that multiple people placed themselves in legal jeopardy so that Disney could save face with a very small audience. It’s literally a conspiracy theory.
 
ParadoxPortals

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Sir_Cliff said:
Maybe I am being naïve here, but wouldn't Disney get in quite a bit of trouble if they falsely reported a theft? It would be one thing if the report was subsequently amended to show the item had been found, but my understanding was that the investigation was suspended or paused. Surely they'd be in trouble if they found Buzzy and just didn't tell the police?
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Yeah, whilst I personally believe the stolen-and-sold-to-a-collector theory, I'd never fully discounted the other idea as it seemed to me the claim was that Disney found the figure and then appropriately ended the police investigation without making a public announcement admitting their embarrassing misplacement / temporary loss of the highly-valuable AA; the claim never seemed to be that they were lying to the police for whatever reason and trying to drag it all out.
 
DreamfinderGuy

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Sir_Cliff said:
Maybe I am being naïve here, but wouldn't Disney get in quite a bit of trouble if they falsely reported a theft? It would be one thing if the report was subsequently amended to show the item had been found, but my understanding was that the investigation was suspended or paused. Surely they'd be in trouble if they found Buzzy and just didn't tell the police?
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Surprisingly no, they have no obligation to update the police. At minimum a theft was presumed to have occurred at the time the report was filed, so it wasn't knowingly malicious.
lazyboy97o said:
Consider that it’s a crime to knowingly make false statements to the police regarding an investigation. You’re entire premise is that multiple people placed themselves in legal jeopardy so that Disney could save face with a very small audience. It’s literally a conspiracy theory.
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Nobody placed anybody in any kind of legal jeopardy, but yeah, you can call it a conspiracy theory. This is a big reason nobody who knows anything says anything (well, this and the NDAs), it reads just like one. I'm not asking anybody to believe me, but as someone that's been attached to the story since before it was public I am confident enough in it and more or less have it as a case closed in my mind. We're not getting another update so it's every man's inference for themselves from here on out.
 
JoeCamel

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DreamfinderGuy said:
Surprisingly no, they have no obligation to update the police. At minimum a theft was presumed to have occurred at the time the report was filed, so it wasn't knowingly malicious.

Nobody placed anybody in any kind of legal jeopardy, but yeah, you can call it a conspiracy theory. This is a big reason nobody who knows anything says anything (well, this and the NDAs), it reads just like one. I'm not asking anybody to believe me, but as someone that's been attached to the story since before it was public I am confident enough in it and more or less have it as a case closed in my mind. We're not getting another update so it's every man's inference for themselves from here on out.
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Was going to get one of these when you first posted but that is like your opinion you know man? The world is not that complicated. Buzzy went for a joyride and no one except the ride driver knows what happened to him. MY theory is he met the woodchipper in a scrapyard but neither of us will know and trying to spin it into a dastardly Disney conspiracy is just fantasy in the sky

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lazyboy97o

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DreamfinderGuy said:
Surprisingly no, they have no obligation to update the police. At minimum a theft was presumed to have occurred at the time the report was filed, so it wasn't knowingly malicious.

Nobody placed anybody in any kind of legal jeopardy, but yeah, you can call it a conspiracy theory. This is a big reason nobody who knows anything says anything (well, this and the NDAs), it reads just like one. I'm not asking anybody to believe me, but as someone that's been attached to the story since before it was public I am confident enough in it and more or less have it as a case closed in my mind. We're not getting another update so it's every man's inference for themselves from here on out.
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This requires the sheriff’s department to be falsifying public records. According them, it wasn’t just a report that was filed that Disneynust didn’t bother to update. They claim to have followed up and even searched Central Shops. So if Disney had the figure at Central Shops then somebody was lying and committing a crime. Disney either hid the figure and lied to the police for reasons or the sheriff’s department never followed up and lied about it for reasons.

 
DreamfinderGuy

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lazyboy97o said:
This requires the sheriff’s department to be falsifying public records. According them, it wasn’t just a report that was filed that Disneynust didn’t bother to update. They claim to have followed up and even searched Central Shops. So if Disney had the figure at Central Shops then somebody was lying and committing a crime.

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I doubt he was ever in Central Shops, if he was then people there would have talked when the sheriff's office searched the place. If the company took him he was likely dismantled on site and shipped to Burbank.
 
lazyboy97o

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DreamfinderGuy said:
Central Shops Animatronics Dept.
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DreamfinderGuy said:
Central Shops has Buzzy last I heard. We’ve got three people sticking to that story (Unless Hmmm and Dave are the same person, which I doubt). I was all for the stolen theory based on the evidence we had originally, but it was just a botched removal. The stolen accusation actually originally came from in-house Disney (A CM in the know) and was spread to about half a dozen people as far as I’m aware. Then in about a month I took it mainstream after Spikes said to do so. We didn’t know the full story back then, and even now there’s lots of unanswered questions. What I do know is that he’s safe and sound in Central Shops all fixed up, at least as I am told.
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DreamfinderGuy said:
I doubt he was ever in Central Shops, if he was then people there would have talked when the sheriff's office searched the place. If the company took him he was likely dismantled on site and shipped to Burbank.
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When and why did you change your mind on that?
 
lazyboy97o

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DreamfinderGuy said:
Dude, those posts are five and a half years old. I was 15 and parroting whatever came through my messages. Obviously if the police searched Central Shops and there’s an official report saying he was never there that’s grounds to change your mind.
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You were just telling us how close you’ve been to all of this and it shouldn’t be believed…
 

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