Man Accused of Stealing Buzzy's Clothing from Disney World Arrested

DreamfinderGuy

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Which is it? How are the police reports inaccurate but not contradictory to your claims? What exactly are your current claims?
The clothes police report stated his original red jacket was stolen, which hasn't been in the building since 1989, his rubber hands were stolen, which haven't been in the building since the early 1990s, and that the clothes theft occurred in August when it occurred in July. So yes, the police reports have been wrong.
No one sees you as a legitimate source of information. And if they do, that’s their first mistake.
I will reiterate that I have been attached to this case longer than anybody else here and have been regularly fighting misinformation surrounding it, but nobody's forcing you to believe me. I can back up any claim I state as factual with evidence, and have several times.
 

DreamfinderGuy

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You seem to be very emotional about this topic. Why is this?
It's because they've wanted this to be "their story" for the last six years because they've made some public records requests. It has been a very long history of baseless jabs against me, my friends, and the Stolen Kingdom doc because we haven't been working with them.
 

Goofyernmost

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But you're still pushing the narrative that the theft possibly never occurred and Disney has had it the whole time -- with no evidence offered.

You're the one discrediting yourself here by pushing claims that either have no evidence or are contradicted by police records. Then you try to change the subject to portray me as acting like I know who committed the theft or where Buzzy ended up -- which I have not and would not claim to know. I'm saying the theft happened, because that's what real evidence like the police records state.

And then you seem to simultaneously want to be treated as a legitimate source of information on this topic while also claiming you're not accountable for this baseless speculation or having been proven wrong in the past. You don't see the disconnect there?

This is one of the reasons I'm quite skeptical about "Stolen Kingdom."
I understand your passion for the topic, but let me say this. It is said that because there is no solid, irrefutable evidence that Buzz was stolen there is likewise no irrefutable evidence that he wasn't. You have to find the body, like humans, before you can say that he was taken by someone else. Inuendo and likelihood is not evidence it is just conjecture and circumstantial evidence. My conjecture is that it could be either. It isn't unusual for Disney to do their quick change stuff in the middle of the night, what is unusual is that with a staff on duty cleaning up the parks and making mechanical changes all night long, how could it have been done without anyone seeing or hearing anything. Also, like a mystery show the fact that there were maintenance people around every night of the year that no one would have paid any attention to a pick up or van being present within the park.

Police reports are not evidence unless they catch the thief, which they haven't so you decide because it doesn't really matter what any of us in a chat room think. If memory serves me the removal of Buzzy was left with cut lines, fluid on the floor and a very unprofessional scene leading one to think it was stolen, which it might have been, but again pure conjecture. Find the body and you find the thief if there is one, but it is also possible that Buzzy sleeps with the fishes along with the subs. Either way, Buzzy is now and ever shall be history, with a slightly more amusing ending.
 

Tha Realest

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It's because they've wanted this to be "their story" for the last six years because they've made some public records requests. It has been a very long history of baseless jabs against me, my friends, and the Stolen Kingdom doc because we haven't been working with them.
Yeah, it feels overly personal and sour gripes that s/he is not the one telling this story. Or, rather, they’ve told their story and no one’s bothered to listen.
 

OrlandoRising

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It's because they've wanted this to be "their story" for the last six years because they've made some public records requests. It has been a very long history of baseless jabs against me, my friends, and the Stolen Kingdom doc because we haven't been working with them.
When have I ever said this should be “my story?” I never have.

Yes, I did do plenty of reporting on it, all for a side gig that’s just a hobby, and because of that work, we have records and information we wouldn’t otherwise have. I don't know why you have a dismissive attitude towards that kind of work and its value. It's thanks to journalists following up on tips with these record requests that proved this whole story was more than just rumors.

I’m even referenced in the police report investigating Dave Ensign’s claims about Buzzy being in Central Shops because I was first to do some digging on that claim with my sources. So yeah, I think I've earned some right to speak about this topic.

I’ve spread no baseless claims about the doc, just my real concerns about the narrative I’ve heard it’s pushing.

My main concern is this story is done justice, perhaps in a way that spurs some public pressure so we can find out exactly who stole Buzzy and how.

The fact the we’re back to relitigating whether the theft even happened, when it did, that's what I’m worried about. The doc could waste a unique opportunity by asking all the wrong questions.
 
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