Man Accused of Stealing Buzzy's Clothing from Disney World Arrested

[JoeCamel]

Surprisingly no, they have no obligation to update the police. At minimum a theft was presumed to have occurred at the time the report was filed, so it wasn't knowingly malicious.

Nobody placed anybody in any kind of legal jeopardy, but yeah, you can call it a conspiracy theory. This is a big reason nobody who knows anything says anything (well, this and the NDAs), it reads just like one. I'm not asking anybody to believe me, but as someone that's been attached to the story since before it was public I am confident enough in it and more or less have it as a case closed in my mind. We're not getting another update so it's every man's inference for themselves from here on out.

Was going to get one of these when you first posted but that is like your opinion you know man? The world is not that complicated. Buzzy went for a joyride and no one except the ride driver knows what happened to him. MY theory is he met the woodchipper in a scrapyard but neither of us will know and trying to spin it into a dastardly Disney conspiracy is just fantasy in the sky

 

[lazyboy97o]

Surprisingly no, they have no obligation to update the police. At minimum a theft was presumed to have occurred at the time the report was filed, so it wasn't knowingly malicious.

Nobody placed anybody in any kind of legal jeopardy, but yeah, you can call it a conspiracy theory. This is a big reason nobody who knows anything says anything (well, this and the NDAs), it reads just like one. I'm not asking anybody to believe me, but as someone that's been attached to the story since before it was public I am confident enough in it and more or less have it as a case closed in my mind. We're not getting another update so it's every man's inference for themselves from here on out.

This requires the sheriff’s department to be falsifying public records. According them, it wasn’t just a report that was filed that Disneynust didn’t bother to update. They claim to have followed up and even searched Central Shops. So if Disney had the figure at Central Shops then somebody was lying and committing a crime. Disney either hid the figure and lied to the police for reasons or the sheriff’s department never followed up and lied about it for reasons.

https://themeparktribune.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/11/Buzzy-Police-Report-11-4-19-release-Orlando-Rising-REDACTED.pdf

 

[DreamfinderGuy]

This requires the sheriff’s department to be falsifying public records. According them, it wasn’t just a report that was filed that Disneynust didn’t bother to update. They claim to have followed up and even searched Central Shops. So if Disney had the figure at Central Shops then somebody was lying and committing a crime.

https://themeparktribune.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/11/Buzzy-Police-Report-11-4-19-release-Orlando-Rising-REDACTED.pdf

I doubt he was ever in Central Shops, if he was then people there would have talked when the sheriff's office searched the place. If the company took him he was likely dismantled on site and shipped to Burbank.

 

[lazyboy97o]

Central Shops Animatronics Dept.

Central Shops has Buzzy last I heard. We’ve got three people sticking to that story (Unless Hmmm and Dave are the same person, which I doubt). I was all for the stolen theory based on the evidence we had originally, but it was just a botched removal. The stolen accusation actually originally came from in-house Disney (A CM in the know) and was spread to about half a dozen people as far as I’m aware. Then in about a month I took it mainstream after Spikes said to do so. We didn’t know the full story back then, and even now there’s lots of unanswered questions. What I do know is that he’s safe and sound in Central Shops all fixed up, at least as I am told.

I doubt he was ever in Central Shops, if he was then people there would have talked when the sheriff's office searched the place. If the company took him he was likely dismantled on site and shipped to Burbank.

When and why did you change your mind on that?

 

[DreamfinderGuy]

When and why did you change your mind on that?

Dude, those posts are five and a half years old. I was 15 and parroting whatever came through my messages. Obviously if the police searched Central Shops and there’s an official report saying he was never there that’s grounds to change your mind.

 

[lazyboy97o]

Dude, those posts are five and a half years old. I was 15 and parroting whatever came through my messages. Obviously if the police searched Central Shops and there’s an official report saying he was never there that’s grounds to change your mind.

You were just telling us how close you’ve been to all of this and it shouldn’t be believed…

 

[Streetway Again]

You were just telling us how close you’ve been to all of this and it shouldn’t be believed…

it’s almost as if people learn from and grow as a result of their experiences throughout their life!

 

[lazyboy97o]

it’s almost as if people learn from and grow as a result of their experiences throughout their life!

We’re talking about yesterday and today…

 

[DreamfinderGuy]

You were just telling us how close you’ve been to all of this and it shouldn’t be believed…

I’m not sure what more you want from me, I openly said I don’t have any hard facts to present and I’m not asking anybody to believe me. We’re not getting any kind of closure on this case, so everybody can make their inferences based on the facts presented to them. This is mine based on what has been presented to me.

We’re talking about yesterday and today…

The posts you quoted are from August 2019 and today. Nothing has changed about my beliefs between now and yesterday

 

[OrlandoRising]

Dude, those posts are five and a half years old. I was 15 and parroting whatever came through my messages. Obviously if the police searched Central Shops and there’s an official report saying he was never there that’s grounds to change your min

I’m sorry, is this supposed to make you seem credible? You just parroted whatever came through your messages?

 

[DreamfinderGuy]

I’m sorry, is this supposed to make you seem credible? You just parroted whatever came through your messages?

I was fifteen years old and I thought the people I was talking to were credible. You know what happened? Dave said he was in Central Shops, the community trusted Dave, the police report came out saying he wasn't there, and people quit trusting Dave on this story, myself included.

I'm sure as a "real journalist" or whatever you've been using to try and discredit anybody else that wants to cover this story you can understand a source previously seen as credible going sour on you. Luckily I'm not trying to be a journalist, I'm just a guy who happened to get stuck in the middle of a big story. I will gladly eat crow if you solve the case and I'm dead wrong.

 

[Goofyernmost]

stop making stupid people famous.

It's a new American goal. As usual, it is successful.

 

[Goofyernmost]

If Disney did have it by now it is finely integrated with the remains of the subs from the 20k Leagues attraction. The graveyard which at this point consists of rusted bits and pieces. Even if it has gone back to nature, except for the probably crime of stealing an expensive robot, if Disney wanted to revive him I'm sure they still have the intricate plans someplace where they could rebuild it, exactly like before, if they wanted to do so. The thing to be accepted is that they have no intention of ever bringing Buzzy back to life. He is history and is now worth only the sum of it's parts.

 

[DreamfinderGuy]

If Disney did have it by now it is finely integrated with the remains of the subs from the 20k Leagues attraction. The graveyard which at this point consists of rusted bits and pieces. Even if it has gone back to nature, except for the probably crime of stealing an expensive robot, if Disney wanted to revive him I'm sure they still have the intricate plans someplace where they could rebuild it, exactly like before, if they wanted to do so. The thing to be accepted is that they have no intention of ever bringing Buzzy back to life. He is history and is now worth only the sum of it's parts.

They absolutely still have all the documentation to make a 1:1 replica, just not really a reason to do so. Only a handful of retired figures are kept around because they're historical artifacts they can trot out every once in a while. Buzzy was never particularly iconic, and only now is because of this case. No incentive to revive him.

 

[EagleScout610]

They absolutely still have all the documentation to make a 1:1 replica, just not really a reason to do so. Only a handful of retired figures are kept around because they're historical artifacts they can trot out every once in a while. Buzzy was never particularly iconic, and only now is because of this case. No incentive to revive him.

I have no doubt there was at least one person within Disney who either asked "...who?" when told Buzzy went missing or assumed they were talking about Buzz Lightyear.

 

[OrlandoRising]

I was fifteen years old and I thought the people I was talking to were credible. You know what happened? Dave said he was in Central Shops, the community trusted Dave, the police report came out saying he wasn't there, and people quit trusting Dave on this story, myself included.

I'm sure as a "real journalist" or whatever you've been using to try and discredit anybody else that wants to cover this story you can understand a source previously seen as credible going sour on you. Luckily I'm not trying to be a journalist, I'm just a guy who happened to get stuck in the middle of a big story. I will gladly eat crow if you solve the case and I'm dead wrong.

But you're still pushing the narrative that the theft possibly never occurred and Disney has had it the whole time -- with no evidence offered.

You're the one discrediting yourself here by pushing claims that either have no evidence or are contradicted by police records. Then you try to change the subject to portray me as acting like I know who committed the theft or where Buzzy ended up -- which I have not and would not claim to know. I'm saying the theft happened, because that's what real evidence like the police records state.

And then you seem to simultaneously want to be treated as a legitimate source of information on this topic while also claiming you're not accountable for this baseless speculation or having been proven wrong in the past. You don't see the disconnect there?

This is one of the reasons I'm quite skeptical about "Stolen Kingdom."

 

[Tha Realest]

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But you're still pushing the narrative that the theft possibly never occurred and Disney has had it the whole time -- with no evidence offered.

You're the one discrediting yourself here by pushing claims that either have no evidence or are contradicted by police records. Then you try to change the subject to portray me as acting like I know who committed the theft or where Buzzy ended up -- which I have not and would not claim to know. I'm saying the theft happened, because that's what real evidence like the police records state.

And then you seem to simultaneously want to be treated as a legitimate source of information on this topic while also claiming you're not accountable for this baseless speculation or having been proven wrong in the past. You don't see the disconnect there?

This is one of the reasons I'm quite skeptical about "Stolen Kingdom."

You seem to be very emotional about this topic. Why is this?

 

[DreamfinderGuy]

But you're still pushing the narrative that the theft possibly never occurred and Disney has had it the whole time -- with no evidence offered.

I am, and as mentioned before I really don't care whether anybody believes me or not. I am sharing my belief based on what has been presented to me. There is no evidence to confirm or deny anybody's theories, all we know is that it went missing and a police report was filed.

But you're still pushing the narrative that the theft possibly never occurred and Disney has had it the whole time -- with no evidence offered.

You're the one discrediting yourself here by pushing claims that either have no evidence or are contradicted by police records. Then you try to change the subject to portray me as acting like I know who committed the theft or where Buzzy ended up -- which I have not and would not claim to know. I'm saying the theft happened, because that's what real evidence like the police records state.

Nothing I've said has been contradicted by police records, unless you are caught up with posts from half a decade ago which predate police records being made publicly available. I'm also not claiming you know anything other than what's on police records, because I know pulling those records is all you've done regarding this case.

And then you seem to simultaneously want to be treated as a legitimate source of information on this topic while also claiming you're not accountable for this baseless speculation or having been proven wrong in the past. You don't see the disconnect there?

I'll own up to being wrong. I was fed bad info five years ago by people I no longer trust. I'm not sure how you have interpreted anything I've said as dodging accountability. I have spent several years now correcting actual verifiable misinformation on this case, including inaccuracies in the police reports, which is why people see me as a legitimate source of information. It's also why I don't talk in certainties regarding what happened after the figure was removed because we have no certainties other than an investigation took place.

This is one of the reasons I'm quite skeptical about "Stolen Kingdom."

It's out, you can go watch it now. Eager to hear what you think because I know you have spent years saying you're skeptical of it.

 

[lazyboy97o]

Nothing I've said has been contradicted by police records,

I have spent several years now correcting actual verifiable misinformation on this case, including inaccuracies in the police reports, which is why people see me as a legitimate source of information.

Which is it? How are the police reports inaccurate but not contradictory to your claims? What exactly are your current claims?

 

[Ayla]

I am, and as mentioned before I really don't care whether anybody believes me or not. I am sharing my belief based on what has been presented to me. There is no evidence to confirm or deny anybody's theories, all we know is that it went missing and a police report was filed.

Nothing I've said has been contradicted by police records, unless you are caught up with posts from half a decade ago which predate police records being made publicly available. I'm also not claiming you know anything other than what's on police records, because I know pulling those records is all you've done regarding this case.

I'll own up to being wrong. I was fed bad info five years ago by people I no longer trust. I'm not sure how you have interpreted anything I've said as dodging accountability. I have spent several years now correcting actual verifiable misinformation on this case, including inaccuracies in the police reports, which is why people see me as a legitimate source of information. It's also why I don't talk in certainties regarding what happened after the figure was removed because we have no certainties other than an investigation took place.

It's out, you can go watch it now. Eager to hear what you think because I know you have spent years saying you're skeptical of it.

No one sees you as a legitimate source of information. And if they do, that’s their first mistake.