Man Accused of Stealing Buzzy's Clothing from Disney World Arrested

[Lilofan]

Issue special after-hours magic bands to legit cast members. Nothing easier than to detect movement around the parks after hours without proper RFID chips. A security monitor goes beep, guard puts down his donut, looks at the screen and says into a mic, who's there? Come into the office and get a band."

Cast members are unionized. That idea will never fly with their unions.

 

[Josh Hendy]

Cast members are unionized. That idea will never fly with their unions.

This puzzles me as it seems like a reasonable upgrade to workplace safety to prevent unauthorized access to attraction areas.

The union reps know that there are cameras everywhere and employees can be watched by security almost the entire time they are on property, right? Do WDW cast members have card access to buildings and the utilidors? For decades I could only access my non-union office job with a magnetic photo ID card to open the door.

 

[lazyboy97o]

This puzzles me as it seems like a reasonable upgrade to workplace safety to prevent unauthorized access to attraction areas.

The union reps know that there are cameras everywhere and employees can be watched by security almost the entire time they are on property, right? Do WDW cast members have card access to buildings and the utilidors? For decades I could only access my non-union office job with a magnetic photo ID card to open the door.

There clearly are not cameras watching everyone everywhere backstage.

 

[peter11435]

This puzzles me as it seems like a reasonable upgrade to workplace safety to prevent unauthorized access to attraction areas.

The union reps know that there are cameras everywhere and employees can be watched by security almost the entire time they are on property, right? Do WDW cast members have card access to buildings and the utilidors? For decades I could only access my non-union office job with a magnetic photo ID card to open the door.

You think there are a lot more cameras than there really are.

 

[flynnibus]

Issue special after-hours magic bands to legit cast members. Nothing easier than to detect movement around the parks after hours without proper RFID chips. A security monitor goes beep, guard puts down his donut, looks at the screen and says into a mic, who's there? Come into the office and get a band."

Eh? how is monitoring RFID going to track things without RFID?

 

[Lilofan]

This puzzles me as it seems like a reasonable upgrade to workplace safety to prevent unauthorized access to attraction areas.

The union reps know that there are cameras everywhere and employees can be watched by security almost the entire time they are on property, right? Do WDW cast members have card access to buildings and the utilidors? For decades I could only access my non-union office job with a magnetic photo ID card to open the door.

Just the idea of being tracked by a chip will be a topic of discussion between union and management.

 

[Josh Hendy]

There clearly are not cameras watching everyone everywhere backstage.

But on and around the track and mountains of BTMRR I hope? Where one notorious urbex went exploring. And I would have expected, on Everest which someone proposed booby trapping. Or am I inferring too much from Space Mountain.

Urbex is real, so is the liability for accidents and sadly, sabotage. Didn't people sneak into Horizons for one last behind-the-scenes taping session before it closed?

They spent a billion on magic bands and whatnot, video monitoring systems for a whole house cost a few hundred at CostCo. Even I could rig them up on the WDW intranet.

Put them around the doors, stairs, rides and control rooms.

I'll bet the gift shops are covered!

 

[trainplane3]

But on and around the track and mountains of BTMRR I hope? Where one notorious urbex went exploring. And I would have expected, on Everest which someone proposed booby trapping. Or am I inferring too much from Space Mountain.

Urbex is real, so is the liability for accidents and sadly, sabotage. Didn't people sneak into Horizons for one last behind-the-scenes taping session before it closed?

They spent a billion on magic bands and whatnot, video monitoring systems for a whole house cost a few hundred at CostCo. Even I could rig them up on the WDW intranet.

Put them around the doors, stairs, rides and control rooms.

I'll bet the gift shops are covered!

Many more times then "one last session".

No sane corporation would ever use something like that. Though even the hardcore cash-strapped company I worked for had a solid camera setup.

 

[Sir_Cliff]

I don't know whether I'm too forgiving, but with a place as large as WDW it must be logistically very difficult to monitor every last square inch and close all the gaps.

The thing that strikes me more than anything is how easy or at least possible it seems to be for people to get into the parks from the outside. Again, though, I don't know how simple it is to really seal off such large venues that thousands of workers have to get in an out of each day. I guess they could build giant border walls around the parks and restrict entry to a very limited number of entrances...? Still, I'm surprised it would be possible to get to something like Everest without anyone catching you is possible, particularly as it's not really near any external roads.

I'm not sure that blanketing the place in cameras would do much beyond perhaps being a deterrent. Cameras might be useful after the fact for prosecuting people, but the issue at the present seems to be more with people who film themselves breaking into the park and upload the footage without Disney apparently being able to do anything.

 

[Josh Hendy]

I'm not sure that blanketing the place in cameras would do much beyond perhaps being a deterrent.

I don't think that the parks have to be blanketed in cameras. Just one or two in each building especially attraction buildings, and on routes that are difficult to bypass by someone moving between buildings.

'Course you're going to pick up gators and feral cats every so often. But it's just a matter of motion detection and someone having a glance at a picture. Dare I say, outsource it?

 

[FrankLapidus]

Putting a camera or two on Everest might be a worthwhile idea, evidently.

Or is it really just that easy to stroll into popular attractions outside of park hours?

 

[danlb_2000]

Honestly shocked he hasn’t died during one of these stunt.

They did one in Volcano Bay recently and started to walk down one of the big slides, that is really dangerous.

 

[peter11435]

I don't know whether I'm too forgiving, but with a place as large as WDW it must be logistically very difficult to monitor every last square inch and close all the gaps.

The thing that strikes me more than anything is how easy or at least possible it seems to be for people to get into the parks from the outside. Again, though, I don't know how simple it is to really seal off such large venues that thousands of workers have to get in an out of each day. I guess they could build giant border walls around the parks and restrict entry to a very limited number of entrances...? Still, I'm surprised it would be possible to get to something like Everest without anyone catching you is possible, particularly as it's not really near any external roads.

I'm not sure that blanketing the place in cameras would do much beyond perhaps being a deterrent. Cameras might be useful after the fact for prosecuting people, but the issue at the present seems to be more with people who film themselves breaking into the park and upload the footage without Disney apparently being able to do anything.

I wouldn’t exactly say it’s easy to get in from the outside. Sneaking in to the park is not exactly what’s happening here.

 

[ImperfectPixie]

I wouldn’t exactly say it’s easy to get in from the outside. Sneaking in to the park is not exactly what’s happening here.

They're being let in? Or hiding until after the park closes?

 

[Squishy]

They're being let in? Or hiding until after the park closes?

They jump over the fences, I remember seeing a video of them jumping over a fence and walking down the railroad tracks to big thunder, seems deleted now.

 

[ImperfectPixie]

They jump over the fences, I remember seeing a video of them jumping over a fence and walking down the railroad tracks to big thunder, seems deleted now.

Yeah, but @peter11435 seems to be insinuating otherwise.

 

[WDWTrojan]

These attractions do have cameras but they are usually only monitored during working hours and not all of them likely save the tape. Also this was likely an immense safety risk for them. There's a strict lockout/tagout procedure that must be followed by both operations and maintenance to prevent ride cycling when folks are in the ride path. If this isn't followed its entirely possible maintenance could have begun cycling the ride leading to tragic consequences.

 

[Sir_Cliff]

These attractions do have cameras but they are usually only monitored during working hours and not all of them likely save the tape. Also this was likely an immense safety risk for them. There's a strict lockout/tagout procedure that must be followed by both operations and maintenance to prevent ride cycling when folks are in the ride path. If this isn't followed its entirely possible maintenance could have begun cycling the ride leading to tragic consequences.

That's what I imagine, too. I'm sure there are plenty of cameras on Everest, Big Thunder, etc. It's just that at 3am or whenever they sneak into the park there aren't people on each ride sitting and watching banks of cameras on all the closed attractions. As you say, though, there's nothing to say maintenance won't cycle the ride.

They jump over the fences, I remember seeing a video of them jumping over a fence and walking down the railroad tracks to big thunder, seems deleted now.

Yeah, but @peter11435 seems to be insinuating otherwise.

Yes, I assumed they jumped over the fences, too. Considering how far the perimeters of AK are from any public roads, though, I'm kind of surprised they managed to get that far into the park.

 

[The Mom]

They jump over the fences, I remember seeing a video of them jumping over a fence and walking down the railroad tracks to big thunder, seems deleted now.

Illegally obtained video will be deleted. Those who continue to post them will not be allowed to post.

 

[Josh Hendy]

I'm sure there are plenty of cameras on Everest, Big Thunder, etc. It's just that at 3am or whenever they sneak into the park there aren't people on each ride sitting and watching banks of cameras on all the closed attractions.

I thought that motion detection triggering a screen capture and alert is now very simple, easy technology. For example on household front door cameras. But perhaps not so easy to retrofit this feature onto the older ride-monitoring systems.

Have a feeling, someone at TWDC is working on this