Man Accused of Stealing Buzzy's Clothing from Disney World Arrested

peter11435

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I don't know whether I'm too forgiving, but with a place as large as WDW it must be logistically very difficult to monitor every last square inch and close all the gaps.

The thing that strikes me more than anything is how easy or at least possible it seems to be for people to get into the parks from the outside. Again, though, I don't know how simple it is to really seal off such large venues that thousands of workers have to get in an out of each day. I guess they could build giant border walls around the parks and restrict entry to a very limited number of entrances...? Still, I'm surprised it would be possible to get to something like Everest without anyone catching you is possible, particularly as it's not really near any external roads.

I'm not sure that blanketing the place in cameras would do much beyond perhaps being a deterrent. Cameras might be useful after the fact for prosecuting people, but the issue at the present seems to be more with people who film themselves breaking into the park and upload the footage without Disney apparently being able to do anything.
I wouldn’t exactly say it’s easy to get in from the outside. Sneaking in to the park is not exactly what’s happening here.
 

TrojanUSC

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These attractions do have cameras but they are usually only monitored during working hours and not all of them likely save the tape. Also this was likely an immense safety risk for them. There's a strict lockout/tagout procedure that must be followed by both operations and maintenance to prevent ride cycling when folks are in the ride path. If this isn't followed its entirely possible maintenance could have begun cycling the ride leading to tragic consequences.
 

Sir_Cliff

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These attractions do have cameras but they are usually only monitored during working hours and not all of them likely save the tape. Also this was likely an immense safety risk for them. There's a strict lockout/tagout procedure that must be followed by both operations and maintenance to prevent ride cycling when folks are in the ride path. If this isn't followed its entirely possible maintenance could have begun cycling the ride leading to tragic consequences.
That's what I imagine, too. I'm sure there are plenty of cameras on Everest, Big Thunder, etc. It's just that at 3am or whenever they sneak into the park there aren't people on each ride sitting and watching banks of cameras on all the closed attractions. As you say, though, there's nothing to say maintenance won't cycle the ride.

They jump over the fences, I remember seeing a video of them jumping over a fence and walking down the railroad tracks to big thunder, seems deleted now.
Yeah, but @peter11435 seems to be insinuating otherwise.
Yes, I assumed they jumped over the fences, too. Considering how far the perimeters of AK are from any public roads, though, I'm kind of surprised they managed to get that far into the park.
 

Josh Hendy

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I'm sure there are plenty of cameras on Everest, Big Thunder, etc. It's just that at 3am or whenever they sneak into the park there aren't people on each ride sitting and watching banks of cameras on all the closed attractions.
I thought that motion detection triggering a screen capture and alert is now very simple, easy technology. For example on household front door cameras. But perhaps not so easy to retrofit this feature onto the older ride-monitoring systems.

Have a feeling, someone at TWDC is working on this 😁
 

lazyboy97o

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I thought that motion detection triggering a screen capture and alert is now very simple, easy technology. For example on household front door cameras. But perhaps not so easy to retrofit this feature onto the older ride-monitoring systems.

Have a feeling, someone at TWDC is working on this 😁
Commercial systems are more complex that residential ones. Even then, there are lots of legitimate reasons for people to be all over the place. An avalanche of notifications to sift through are not going to help.
 

Timmay

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Commercial systems are more complex that residential ones. Even then, there are lots of legitimate reasons for people to be all over the place. An avalanche of notifications to sift through are not going to help.
Not only are quality commercial systems more complex, they are far more expensive to install and maintain. Current surveillance systems have the ability to be integrated into multiple other security systems, such as access control, provide analytics, etc. And live viewing of images is a nightmare staffing wise. Just ask casinos and the military.
All organizations have to decide the reasonable risk vs. ROI when it comes to electronic security integration.
 

Josh Hendy

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Not only are quality commercial systems more complex, they are far more expensive to install and maintain. Current surveillance systems have the ability to be integrated into multiple other security systems, such as access control, provide analytics, etc. And live viewing of images is a nightmare staffing wise. Just ask casinos and the military.
All organizations have to decide the reasonable risk vs. ROI when it comes to electronic security integration.
I hope they don't give in to mission creep.
 

flynnibus

Premium Member
Commercial systems are more complex that residential ones. Even then, there are lots of legitimate reasons for people to be all over the place. An avalanche of notifications to sift through are not going to help.

Its possible... you just really need/want to build it out. You handle the scale like how network NOCs do... AI is a big factor in this now too.

But in most cases... simple labor is a cheaper alternative:)
 

kpilcher

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Probably because he‘s getting too much attention.

I know reporter Mike DeForest sought a response from YouTube some time before his first report aired at 5pm on Tuesday. We still had not received comment by Mike’s update on my newscast at 7 Tuesday evening. So it happened sometime after that and before Mike’s follow ups today. Patreon’s decision may have played a role. I wouldn’t be surprised if Disney and Universal made their opinions known as well. Not to mention the yeti video seemed to be getting more attention.
 

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