Man Accused of Stealing Buzzy's Clothing from Disney World Arrested

larryz

I'm Just A Tourist!
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They don't make money per views on patreon, patreon is a donation site where people pay money and get videos or other perks in return.
Do you seriously think anybody would contribute money to them if they didn't post videos for their patreon subscribers?

People who donate via patreon to see self-made videos of somebody doing something illegal are, to my mind, accomplices and co-conspirators.
 

JenniferS

When you're the leader, you don't have to follow.
Ubex pre-dates Youtube... the curiosity is there anyway. Yes YT channels are motivations for people to do more, etc.. but the idea that if you take away the viewers, that Ubex would go away.. is false.
Maybe. Maybe not.
Either way, I refuse to sanction their activities, watch their trash, or line their pockets.
 

JenniferS

When you're the leader, you don't have to follow.
No, there is no uncertainty. Urban Explorering pre-dates YouTube... even affordable small cameras. And why so much of it was still photography for so long.

Just like almost everything.. the ability to self-publish video easily now has just enabled a flood of more people to do things. It's a magnifier - not a creator.
I think the accolade and adulation drives them more now.

Back in the day, they may have done it to satisfy a personal itch. Now they do it for the hits, likes, and views. It’s an ego/vanity thing.
 

Josh Hendy

Well-Known Member
Sure it's an OSHA violation but they gotta home alone these trespassers. Put out some micro machines, cover steps in tar, etc.
Issue special after-hours magic bands to legit cast members. Nothing easier than to detect movement around the parks after hours without proper RFID chips. A security monitor goes beep, guard puts down his donut, looks at the screen and says into a mic, who's there? Come into the office and get a band."
 

Lilofan

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Issue special after-hours magic bands to legit cast members. Nothing easier than to detect movement around the parks after hours without proper RFID chips. A security monitor goes beep, guard puts down his donut, looks at the screen and says into a mic, who's there? Come into the office and get a band."
Cast members are unionized. That idea will never fly with their unions.
 

Josh Hendy

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Cast members are unionized. That idea will never fly with their unions.
This puzzles me as it seems like a reasonable upgrade to workplace safety to prevent unauthorized access to attraction areas.

The union reps know that there are cameras everywhere and employees can be watched by security almost the entire time they are on property, right? Do WDW cast members have card access to buildings and the utilidors? For decades I could only access my non-union office job with a magnetic photo ID card to open the door.
 

lazyboy97o

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This puzzles me as it seems like a reasonable upgrade to workplace safety to prevent unauthorized access to attraction areas.

The union reps know that there are cameras everywhere and employees can be watched by security almost the entire time they are on property, right? Do WDW cast members have card access to buildings and the utilidors? For decades I could only access my non-union office job with a magnetic photo ID card to open the door.
There clearly are not cameras watching everyone everywhere backstage.
 

peter11435

Well-Known Member
This puzzles me as it seems like a reasonable upgrade to workplace safety to prevent unauthorized access to attraction areas.

The union reps know that there are cameras everywhere and employees can be watched by security almost the entire time they are on property, right? Do WDW cast members have card access to buildings and the utilidors? For decades I could only access my non-union office job with a magnetic photo ID card to open the door.
You think there are a lot more cameras than there really are.
 

flynnibus

Premium Member
Issue special after-hours magic bands to legit cast members. Nothing easier than to detect movement around the parks after hours without proper RFID chips. A security monitor goes beep, guard puts down his donut, looks at the screen and says into a mic, who's there? Come into the office and get a band."

Eh? how is monitoring RFID going to track things without RFID?
 

Lilofan

Well-Known Member
This puzzles me as it seems like a reasonable upgrade to workplace safety to prevent unauthorized access to attraction areas.

The union reps know that there are cameras everywhere and employees can be watched by security almost the entire time they are on property, right? Do WDW cast members have card access to buildings and the utilidors? For decades I could only access my non-union office job with a magnetic photo ID card to open the door.
Just the idea of being tracked by a chip will be a topic of discussion between union and management.
 

Josh Hendy

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There clearly are not cameras watching everyone everywhere backstage.
But on and around the track and mountains of BTMRR I hope? Where one notorious urbex went exploring. And I would have expected, on Everest which someone proposed booby trapping. Or am I inferring too much from Space Mountain.

Urbex is real, so is the liability for accidents and sadly, sabotage. Didn't people sneak into Horizons for one last behind-the-scenes taping session before it closed?

They spent a billion on magic bands and whatnot, video monitoring systems for a whole house cost a few hundred at CostCo. Even I could rig them up on the WDW intranet.

Put them around the doors, stairs, rides and control rooms.

I'll bet the gift shops are covered!
 

trainplane3

Well-Known Member
But on and around the track and mountains of BTMRR I hope? Where one notorious urbex went exploring. And I would have expected, on Everest which someone proposed booby trapping. Or am I inferring too much from Space Mountain.

Urbex is real, so is the liability for accidents and sadly, sabotage. Didn't people sneak into Horizons for one last behind-the-scenes taping session before it closed?

They spent a billion on magic bands and whatnot, video monitoring systems for a whole house cost a few hundred at CostCo. Even I could rig them up on the WDW intranet.

Put them around the doors, stairs, rides and control rooms.

I'll bet the gift shops are covered!
Many more times then "one last session".

No sane corporation would ever use something like that. Though even the hardcore cash-strapped company I worked for had a solid camera setup.
 

Sir_Cliff

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I don't know whether I'm too forgiving, but with a place as large as WDW it must be logistically very difficult to monitor every last square inch and close all the gaps.

The thing that strikes me more than anything is how easy or at least possible it seems to be for people to get into the parks from the outside. Again, though, I don't know how simple it is to really seal off such large venues that thousands of workers have to get in an out of each day. I guess they could build giant border walls around the parks and restrict entry to a very limited number of entrances...? Still, I'm surprised it would be possible to get to something like Everest without anyone catching you is possible, particularly as it's not really near any external roads.

I'm not sure that blanketing the place in cameras would do much beyond perhaps being a deterrent. Cameras might be useful after the fact for prosecuting people, but the issue at the present seems to be more with people who film themselves breaking into the park and upload the footage without Disney apparently being able to do anything.
 
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Josh Hendy

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I'm not sure that blanketing the place in cameras would do much beyond perhaps being a deterrent.
I don't think that the parks have to be blanketed in cameras. Just one or two in each building especially attraction buildings, and on routes that are difficult to bypass by someone moving between buildings.

'Course you're going to pick up gators and feral cats every so often. But it's just a matter of motion detection and someone having a glance at a picture. Dare I say, outsource it?
 

FrankLapidus

Well-Known Member
Putting a camera or two on Everest might be a worthwhile idea, evidently.

Or is it really just that easy to stroll into popular attractions outside of park hours?
 

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