Making the TTA (WEDway) Major League

Skipper2

Well-Known Member
Original Poster
Nice, I'm slightly jealous of the Desktop Raid setup though I'm happy with my M.2. drive, (just with it was bigger). Ahh plug and play SSD? Do you mostly roam locally with those or take them on travel. If it is just local I highly recommend a home server of sorts. I run a unraid server with Plex, Gitea (Light wait Github basically), and a personal web sever for test, but it also serves as a 14TB of parity storage. I found dumping to my server and loading from other devices to be quicker than the migration of disk drives. (Sorry I did warn I like tech talks)

I think my biggest concern was sight lights, how to make it blend in with the natural scenery of the park and not be an eyesore for multiple attractions. This is something you might handle in the plan, I just haven't read far enough yet :(
My 2 media drives travel with me, I take them to my kids college so they can binge watch series since they don't have cable. Plug my drive into their PC's and load a couple of months worth of stuff. I do have an old laptop that serves as my in house media server, I use PLEX and it works fairly well.
 

Skipper2

Well-Known Member
Original Poster
Work in progress on HM TTA, I will be giving the TTA a gothic overhaul to make it blend in with the mansion.
WIP 1.JPG
 

spock8113

Well-Known Member
I love this idea and it has maximized similarities to the old Disneyland Peoplemover that went all around the submarine ride as well.
I think there's one big drawback and that would be the incredible amount of power required to run this the length you suggest.
While electromagnets are a great innovation from the 60's, they're still not quite energy efficient. When you consider the track length
and the number of coils required, I'm guessing a new dedicated power source would be needed. That means fuel, cast member power and maintenance.
The "new" gondolas would use a single smaller cable drive at each end as opposed to many magnetic track coils.
These cable drive systems have been perfected by the Europeans for all their ski lifts in the Alps.
The "new" gondolas and Peoplemovers', speed can be a major factor if you need to use it for actual transportation rather than a ride.
It's that old conundrum: ferry or Monorail, Monrail or ferry?

All that being said, I still like the idea. Why limit the Peoplemover to the Magic Kingdom?

I will put up here, in this suggestion box, my own idea: DisneyWorld Park #5: RetroDisney(c),
An entire park dedicated as a place where all the old dismantled rides would be reassembled.
Rides being taken out to make room for updates could reside there.
You don't think people would pay to see the old rides? Ok, maybe not, but......................................
 

Attachments

  • DL77-EH (6).jpg
    DL77-EH (6).jpg
    118.5 KB · Views: 90
  • DL77-EH (21).jpg
    DL77-EH (21).jpg
    92.1 KB · Views: 82
  • DL68-EH (4).jpg
    DL68-EH (4).jpg
    147.3 KB · Views: 92

Skipper2

Well-Known Member
Original Poster
I love this idea and it has maximized similarities to the old Disneyland Peoplemover that went all around the submarine ride as well.
I think there's one big drawback and that would be the incredible amount of power required to run this the length you suggest.
While electromagnets are a great innovation from the 60's, they're still not quite energy efficient. When you consider the track length
and the number of coils required, I'm guessing a new dedicated power source would be needed. That means fuel, cast member power and maintenance.
The "new" gondolas would use a single smaller cable drive at each end as opposed to many magnetic track coils.
These cable drive systems have been perfected by the Europeans for all their ski lifts in the Alps.
The "new" gondolas and Peoplemovers', speed can be a major factor if you need to use it for actual transportation rather than a ride.
It's that old conundrum: ferry or Monorail, Monrail or ferry?

All that being said, I still like the idea. Why limit the Peoplemover to the Magic Kingdom?

I will put up here, in this suggestion box, my own idea: DisneyWorld Park #5: RetroDisney(c),
An entire park dedicated as a place where all the old dismantled rides would be reassembled.
Rides being taken out to make room for updates could reside there.
You don't think people would pay to see the old rides? Ok, maybe not, but......................................[/QUOT

Exactly....I'm not, I have a plan for each of the parks plus some of the tightly grouped resorts. Peoplemovers for all!!!!

On the issue of power, my plan is to add solar power to the entire length of track on the roof, and to any new ride buildings or attractions. Plus if I can sell food for 30k-60k per hour the profit will still be there for using mainline power. Lately the mouse likes solar. Current planned track length in MK is 3 miles.
Solar.JPG
 
Last edited:

Skipper2

Well-Known Member
Original Poster
@spock8113

"I will put up here, in this suggestion box, my own idea: DisneyWorld Park #5: RetroDisney(c),
An entire park dedicated as a place where all the old dismantled rides would be reassembled.
Rides being taken out to make room for updates could reside there.
You don't think people would pay to see the old rides? Ok, maybe not, but......................................"

I really would!!!
 

spock8113

Well-Known Member
Ok Gilligan, I gotta ask, who's CAD are you using. Not that it makes a difference, but you've clearly put in a whole lot of time and effort in this which is very obvious in the details.

Those solar panels are a great idea and then batteries could be installed and stored in the roofing structures.
The nuts and bolts would require finding how many panels would be required for each coil then premanufactured and assembled at the site like a giant puzzle.
Somehow I think you're gonna give us homework for the weekend!

Not to get off the subject of CAD but I'm looking for a good landscaping CAD. Anybody, anybody, Bueller, Bueller?
 

Skipper2

Well-Known Member
Original Poster
Ok Gilligan, I gotta ask, who's CAD are you using. Not that it makes a difference, but you've clearly put in a whole lot of time and effort in this which is very obvious in the details.

Those solar panels are a great idea and then batteries could be installed and stored in the roofing structures.
The nuts and bolts would require finding how many panels would be required for each coil then premanufactured and assembled at the site like a giant puzzle.
Somehow I think you're gonna give us homework for the weekend!

Not to get off the subject of CAD but I'm looking for a good landscaping CAD. Anybody, anybody, Bueller, Bueller?

This is honestly the first time using a CAD program of any type since 1989 (Autocad R12 I think). That said Sketch-Up is awesome and after about 2 weeks I'm getting the hang of it and getting faster. As for the model details I search the sketch-up 3d library(warehouse), import, and then modify to meet my needs (I don't have the skill yet for making from scratch.) I still can't do landscaping and really need to learn how to do justice to what I have planned long term. Uncle Sam trained me to do in-depth photographic analysis so I am fluent in layering and manipulating images for best effect and it does help that it included 3d work.

One of the selling points I was eventually going to get to was modular construction offsite. Using the same base module over and over until you reach a finished project. Foundations poured well in advance of actual module installation. And yes it would by necessity be a huge puzzle. All the more fun for the installation crews. As for home work...my next target to attack is creating a 2 story Frontierland RR station for me to hide the TTA in as it approaches Splash from the north. Gotta find a model that could work, then make it work.
 

Skipper2

Well-Known Member
Original Poster
Okay HM WIPS .....see post #115 and compare it to these. I added a 3/holographic type display on the backside roof of the Mansion itself. This should only be visible from the TTA as it passes between the mansion and the ride building. In these you can see I changed my mind about the west side of the HM and decide a single continuous wall was better than the broken up area that was "backstage" as this area will be part of the much expanded graveyard scene that will be visible from the TTA looking west. It will also be visible from the Liberty Belle on the RA as you look east.
wip5.JPG
wip 6.JPG
wip 7.JPG
 

Skipper2

Well-Known Member
Original Poster
As the TTA makes it's way around the HM the guest will be able to look out the windows at the outside, except the widows will also be displays that will allow the singing ghosts to appear in the window superimposed in front of the real world view outside the window. This could also allow the guest to experience graveyard ghosts as they look down on the scene as they pass. The Q for HM will be expanded to included passing the new graveyard scene, but guests in the Q will be below the sightline of the TTA guests. As for the HM roof display it will take a very strong projections system to be able to show anything convincing in the bright FL sun, I'm sure somebody in this forum could figure something out. If not the roof show may be night time only.
 
Last edited:

spacemt354

Chili's
As the TTA makes it's way around the HM the guest will be able to look out the windows at the outside, except the widows will also be displays that will allow the singing ghosts to appear in the window superimposed in front of the real world view outside the window. This could also allow the guest to experience graveyard ghosts as they look down on the scene as they pass. The Q for HM will be expanded to included passing the new graveyard scene, but guests in the Q will be below the sightline of the TTA guests. As for the HM roof display it will take a very strong projections system to be able to show anything convincing in the bright FL sun, I'm sure somebody in this forum could figure something out. If not the roof show may be night time only.

Walt-Disney-World-Florida-Haunted-mansion-Blueprints-Track-Map.jpg

Based on the location of the windows it looks like the big highlight will be the graveyard scene

Haunted Mansion faces north to south and you'd be traveling east...so theoretically, for a dinner peoplemover...the sun would be behind you. So it shouldn't be shining in the windows.

Worst case scenario you could enclose the tunnel similar to what is done to peer into Buzz Lightyear on the actual peoplemover, making the whole area dark so the sun isn't an issue.
 

Register on WDWMAGIC. This sidebar will go away, and you'll see fewer ads.

Back
Top Bottom