Main Street U.S.A. hub redevelopment at the Magic Kingdom

The Empress Lilly

The Empress Lilly

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The Empress Lilly

The Empress Lilly

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Craigl said:
Finally thank you so much!!!!!!!!!!! The continuous redundant chatter of light poles, tunnels, profits, and just plain bs is insanity. This is an update forum on the construction that has been going since the beginning of the new fantasyland expansion. We stop by this particular forum to get updates on CONSTRUCTION UPDATES so we can plan or prepare for ours or our families near future vacation.
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Chillax, one does not need to run into our conversation squealing like a kitchen maid who's just seen a mouse. This website posts great uninterrupted hub updates on its front page every time any hub work of relevance is finished.
 
Sage of Time

Sage of Time

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betty rose said:
That picture, alone makes me want to take a trip west. Thanks for posting, I love those flowering trees.
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Take that trip. Disneyland is beyond wonderful. Have you been, before?
DGracey said:
Those darn trees continue to inspire a visceral reaction from so many ...

Why?

Well because friends it's about more than "trees and plants."

More complex than "I like trees" or "I don't like the big trees blocking the castle."

It is about the fundamental design & development of the Magic Kingdom. Period.

I couldn't resist weighing in, because the hub is the most important design feature of the park, full stop. Prior to Disneyland, no one had designed a theme park to radiate out from the centre in such a complex yet simplistic way. In several design books they analyze the hub as a piece of design genius, a central anchor to which the rest of the entire park flows and operates from. It just works. And has been copied in parks the world over ever since.

The new hub so far is looking good. But prior to this we had better than "good." We had outstanding.

I genuinely believe TDO's current effort to deal with capacity in MK led them to evaluate a half hearted attempt for what the hub was intended to be. Current management are making a concerted effort to restore some landscaping to what was once a spectacular central plaza in the world's most visited theme park. Yet for so many - we still need it. The feeling of what once was - and never needed to be destroyed. Seriously, you shouldn't see Tomorrowland from Liberty Square. And we won't even bring up the tree massacre in Town Square. The current Town Square twigs look bare, sad and out of place. The trees they are installing in the new hub will indeed be a big change from the last decade of destruction.

The original hub trees prior to being removed in the early 2000's had 30 beautiful years of growth. They were grand, majestic and fitting for a plaza in front of "an old castle."

I am sentimental enough to want the old hub look and feel back, but pragmatic enough to know that will not happen. The problem with the Disney of today is it has gone from building things visitors never dreamed of or had seen before, to starting to fall short on the basics. Disney Parks needs more visionaries.

But hey - they have record revenue, a sky high stock price and incredible growth quarter after quarter. For me I believe you can be both a visionary and please Wall St. at the same time. The current folk don't feel the same. The current trajectory is hard to defend and hardly worth defending. Shanghai will have the greatest theme park the world has ever seen. And we're here debating trees. Welcome to Disney 2015.

The purists know what the hub means, what it looked like and what it should be.

To have the new trees achieve the same beauty, size and grandeur of what once was - we have to wait another 30 years of growth until the year 2045. But we already TDO will never let them get that far anyway ...
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WELL said.
 
danlb_2000

danlb_2000

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Craigl said:
Finally thank you so much!!!!!!!!!!! The continuous redundant chatter of light poles, tunnels, profits, and just plain bs is insanity. This is an update forum on the construction that has been going since the beginning of the new fantasyland expansion. We stop by this particular forum to get updates on CONSTRUCTION UPDATES so we can plan or prepare for ours or our families near future vacation.
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The thread is about the hub redesign, the light poles are an aspect of that design so are relevant. The tunnel discussion relates to the idea that the light poles could have been made retractable, so again, on topic. This thread has actually stayed much more on topic then a lot of threads around here.
 
Monorail_Red_77

Monorail_Red_77

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betty rose said:
I would love to see those murals from my faint memory, I thought they were beautiful.
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Would be nice if they could somehow relocate show support and fully open up the castle breezeway again.

EDIT: Recently saw some old videos of the castle before the forecourt stage was installed. Videos were of the mid 70's I believe. Very cool. Also as another side note, seems like Disney has been using SIMS Crane Co. since the very beginning of WDW constructing. I was also recently watching a construction video of the MK and saw a SIMS crane in a screen shot. They are still used today for various Crane support functions around the property. Though I'm sure others are used as well.
 
rle4lunch

rle4lunch

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betty rose said:
I've never been to Disney Land, it's on my bucket list. Maybe I should do that sooner, rather than later.;)
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Avoid late Jan-Apr, especially this year, unless you don't care about riding 60% of the rides that are down for refurb or enhancements for the 60th. We go about 5 times a year, and usually take one trip in the Jan-Apr timeframe just because crowds are virtually non-existent then.

Not this year though, both parks look like a war zone.
 
Goofyernmost

Goofyernmost

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Sage of Time said:
GO ASAP. It changes your perspective on everything Disney.
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Just to be ornery... in what way does it change? I went there in 2005 (50th DL Anniversary). It was nice, it was historic and it was worthy of note, however, it didn't change anything about my perspective about overall Disney. Of course, it must be considered that I have been accused on many occasions of being dead on the inside. :grumpy::happy:
 
Sage of Time

Sage of Time

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Goofyernmost said:
Just to be ornery... in what way does it change? I went there in 2005 (50th DL Anniversary). It was nice, it was historic and it was worthy of note, however, it didn't change anything about my perspective about overall Disney. Of course, it must be considered that I have been accused on many occasions of being dead on the inside. :grumpy::happy:
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Well, for me, it just opened my eyes to how much history and art these places have. Beyond the "WALT WALKED HERE" connection, Disneyland is a watershed moment in entertainment and culture for the US. And in Disney terms? It's just a "pure" example of their theme parks. This is the original. This is why things are the way they are in WDW and around the world. It's a very cool experience.

And you aren't being ornery... that's a good question. :)
 
Mike S

Mike S

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Going to Disneyland made me see how nice it is when all the rides are kept clean and effects working. The best example being Buzz Lightyear. I forgot how much is supposed to move on that ride which shows how long the WDW version has been ignored by maintenance.
 

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