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If only more people were like that, Lunch with an Imagineer would be much more interesting:True, but I am like Will Ferrell's character Mustafa in Austin Powers. Ask me the same question three times and I snap.
As easy as it is to pick on the people on the Blog, I'd bet they are barely one step above the rest of us on the totem pole. Still, the "message" would've been more effective if they could've just released the menu when they announce to eliminate some of the unnecessary worrying.Having no inside knowledge, my guess would be that the menu is finalized for the most part. It's just not been released out to the PR wing yet. A more proper response for them would have been "We will let you know as soon as the final menu is shared with us".
I'd be willing to bet that they have a VERY good idea of exactly what is going to be sold in this location. They are closing for the refurb in only a few months, and as folks have mentioned, this deal with Starbucks has been in the works for quite some time.
I'm not saying that there might not be last minute additions or subtractions, but for the most part, I would bet that a vast majority of those things that folks are worried about have already had their fates decided. They just haven't felt it necessary to tell the PR folks about it, or have not released them the information to share with the world.
Ok lets look at this clearly. First of almost everything in disney world is sponsered whether blatantly advertised or lurking in the background....Hogwash. Who wants sponsors? What, are we gonna go all Tokyo Disneyland and have sponsors for practically everything? Who wants to be remotely similar to them? Anyone seen their Splash Mountain presented by Nissan?
Or like Epcot during its medieval period. Thank god we don't have Imagination plugging Kodak any longer, or ExxonMobil for Energy. We might lose Ellen!
I'll take the same old crap any day as opposed to a subtle commercial under the entrance marquee.
Sponsors....bah. Who needs 'em.
I think that there are quite a few members of these forums that are WAY more in the know than Disney PR, especially those in charge of the Parks Blog.As easy as it is to pick on the people on the Blog, I'd bet they are barely one step above the rest of us on the totem pole. Still, the "message" would've been more effective if they could've just released the menu when they announce to eliminate some of the unnecessary worrying.
I have to imagine the number of sponsors at WDW is limited by the supply of the sponsors, not the demand on WDW's side.Hogwash. Who wants sponsors? What, are we gonna go all Tokyo Disneyland and have sponsors for practically everything? Who wants to be remotely similar to them? Anyone seen their Splash Mountain presented by Nissan?
Or like Epcot during its medieval period. Thank god we don't have Imagination plugging Kodak any longer, or ExxonMobil for Energy. We might lose Ellen!
I'll take the same old crap any day as opposed to a subtle commercial under the entrance marquee.
Sponsors....bah. Who needs 'em.
Yes.
Ok lets look at this clearly. First of almost everything in disney world is sponsered whether blatantly advertised or lurking in the background....
Won't do any good, but for the record, here was the email I sent to Disney:
To whom it may concern:
Clearly, this email will fall upon deaf ears as the majority of people have spoken out and are disgusted that you are changing the iconic Main Street Bakery into a Starbucks, but you should hear it anyways. We have been vacationing at WDW for 25 years. The Bakery has always been a tradition of ours, and of thousands of other families. You can sugarcoat it all you want by saying “It will still feel like Main Street.” Whatever. Does that mean we can expect a Wal-Mart to move into the Emporium as long as the theme fits?
You have sold out at the expense of your loyal fan base in a way that goes beyond anything you’ve done before. We have put up with shoddy upkeep on attractions, skyrocketing prices at the resorts and park tickets, ridiculous changes to Fastpass. Have you stopped for 1 minute to think of the ridiculously long lines that will be created with people ordering all sorts of crazy concoctions? Of course not. Just about how much money you can rake in.
We’ve always been used to the sponsorship at Walt Disney World, whether it be Fed Ex at Space Mountain, Nestle at The Land, Kodak at Imagination, etc. But this goes beyond Sponsorship. This is a direct greedy slap in the face to the legions of Disney faithful who have stood by the resort, even in times of a sluggish economy and even more sluggish upkeep on the resort.
As a non coffee drinker, I don’t care in the least what type of coffee is served. But if this had to be done, set it up outside the entrance to the park. Put it in Tomorrowland, which has been ruined for years. But instead, you drop it smack dab in the very heart of Walt Disney World.
i respect the fact that you have an opinion on this, as many do. i'm just confused why this of all things is sending fans into a frenzy. not splash mountain literally falling apart? or the nets at the tree of life? or spending 6 months on refurbing big thunder only to have effects still not working?
i just don't get it. listen, i know people can get attached to their pastry, but a quintessential meltdown about slightly different (if at all) baked goods and better coffee? especially when starbucks probably has more pride in the quality of their brand than disney does for its own? letter writing to disney is definitely in need, but there are far more egregious show quality failures, IMO.
Carnation Cafe at DLR. (Sponsorship! In the middle of Main Street! Oh the huge manatee!)Ahhhh, insults. The sign that it's federal holiday and children aren't in school.
So the coffee is shipped around basically like syrup for soft drinks? Wow.Yes you can, but what is served at WDW is a coffee syrup fed through a machine. This makes a bad coffee even worse.
I love the cinnamon rolls, but those can be find elsewhere.
It's not about the food that is served. Well, not entirely.
You are not the only one. The one example we have of a Starbucks being put inside of a Disney park, Fiddler, Fifer, & Practical Cafe at DCA, show us a seamless integration that preserved the majority of our bakery favorites AND added incredibly popular and generally good coffee options. Yet people seem to be assuming that the Main Street Bakery will be burned to the ground, have its ashes desecrated, and a modern Starbucks will be erected in its place. Why the fact that there is no historical precedent, the official blog said nothing of this and has even indicated that many of the original items will still be there has escaped so many is beyond me.i respect the fact that you have an opinion on this, as many do. i'm just confused why this of all things is sending fans into a frenzy. not splash mountain literally falling apart? or the nets at the tree of life? or spending 6 months on refurbing big thunder only to have effects still not working?
i just don't get it. listen, i know people can get attached to their pastry, but a quintessential meltdown about slightly different (if at all) baked goods and better coffee? especially when starbucks probably has more pride in the quality of their brand than disney does for its own? letter writing to disney is definitely in need, but there are far more egregious show quality failures, IMO.
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