MAGICal DLP News, Rumours & Thoughts

Aramar

Active Member
Does this indicate that plans for a third gate still exist? How else could they reach 30 million visitors annually?

Yes, the plans for the third park are still there. In fact, they have used the dirt from digging the lake at the Studios park to build part of the bern for the third park, as can be seen on the latest images from Google Earth:
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Loose Pebble

Active Member
They’ll probably (hopefully) stick to the Americana theme of the other hotels. There were plans of a New Orleans Hotel and a Las Vegas Hotel for Paris which could both be reused now. I’d prefer the New Orleans one since Port Orleans at WDW is really beautiful and a Las Vegas Hotel could easily look very tacky and cheap.

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Wow this would be an amazing hotel! Honestly if you told me this was concept art for a new land, I would love it too! That's how good it is!
 

Bernswss

Member
Wow this would be an amazing hotel! Honestly if you told me this was concept art for a new land, I would love it too! That's how good it is!
It was an amazing concept and plan, imagineers were working on the hotel just like with Disneyland Hotel, not architectural firms like the others. Eddie Sotto was part of the talent behind it and while not a lot is known about the concrete plans, it would've been a mix of an experience and a hotel.
 

denyuntilcaught

Well-Known Member
Yes, the plans for the third park are still there. In fact, they have used the dirt from digging the lake at the Studios park to build part of the bern for the third park, as can be seen on the latest images from Google Earth:
Interesting that the third park would be seemingly quite a distance from the other two parks. Curious to know what the transit plan was/is to move folks to and from en masse.
 

Aramar

Active Member
Interesting that the third park would be seemingly quite a distance from the other two parks. Curious to know what the transit plan was/is to move folks to and from en masse.
Epic Universe is far from the other 2 parks and only has the buses as far as I know, so there's no need for anything especial. However, I think a boat connection was planned from the Disney Village using the hotels lake and expanding the canal next to the Sequoia Lodge. By the time the third park opens in Paris we might even fly with drones so we will see 🤣
 

infloencer

Member
Interesting that the third park would be seemingly quite a distance from the other two parks. Curious to know what the transit plan was/is to move folks to and from en masse.
Early plans of the Resort included a monorail, but I think that’s rather unlikely today. I‘d love a Skyliner connecting the parks and maybe one stop near the hotels. Buses are such a pain to get around
 

marni1971

Park History nut
Premium Member
I mean it appears on concept art so they must have planned it at some point. It’s not really relevant right now as I don’t think Disney will build a monorail in Paris. Why are you suggesting that it wasn’t planned?
No, I wondered if it had ever appeared on any plan. Something more concrete than a piece of art with a geodesic sphere.
 

lazyboy97o

Well-Known Member
Epic Universe is far from the other 2 parks and only has the buses as far as I know, so there's no need for anything especial. However, I think a boat connection was planned from the Disney Village using the hotels lake and expanding the canal next to the Sequoia Lodge. By the time the third park opens in Paris we might even fly with drones so we will see 🤣
The difference is that Universal didn’t intend to have three parks from the beginning. The deal for a third gate has always been there and could have been better incorporated into the master plan for Euro Disney.
 

denyuntilcaught

Well-Known Member
The difference is that Universal didn’t intend to have three parks from the beginning. The deal for a third gate has always been there and could have been better incorporated into the master plan for Euro Disney.
Yep, exactly my point. With this site having the degree of master planning that went into it, it just seems odd to have placed the third park so far out without a clear design in mind of how to move everyone over there. This is very different than WDW where it was almost a tale of two master plans (planned city vs. theme park destination), whereas the DLP component of the wider development was always designed as the latter.

If I were to play armchair Imagineer, I would have planned the third park to be where the parking lot currently sits, and placed the parking lot where the third park is planned.
 

Aramar

Active Member
If I were to play armchair Imagineer, I would have planned the third park to be where the parking lot currently sits, and placed the parking lot where the third park is planned.
Then we would have needed some transport system from the parking lot to the parks, which with the current masterplan hasn't been needed for more than 30 years.

I think the boat is the most likely option since the start portion of the channel heading towards the site of the third park was built at the same time than the hotels. The Disney Village isn't that big, so having to walk through it to get the boat to change parks is not a big deal.

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infloencer

Member
I think the boat is the most likely option since the start portion of the channel heading towards the site of the third park was built at the same time than the hotels. The Disney Village isn't that big, so having to walk through it to get the boat to change parks is not a big deal.
The bottom canal towards the future third gate was even built wider than the top canal towards Cheyenne and Santa Fe, so that supports the theory of boats coming alongside a third gate. However I don’t think it would be nearly as much capacity as needed for people to park hop. The Hotel Lake in Paris is roughly half as wide as the lake between Yacht / Beach Club and Boardwalk Inn at WDW, so the boats can’t really be bigger than the Friendship Boats that travel between EPCOT and DHS. They would need Buses, a Skyliner, a Monorail or something else to meet demand, with Buses definitely being the worse option.
 

lazyboy97o

Well-Known Member
Then we would have needed some transport system from the parking lot to the parks, which with the current masterplan hasn't been needed for more than 30 years.

I think the boat is the most likely option since the start portion of the channel heading towards the site of the third park was built at the same time than the hotels. The Disney Village isn't that big, so having to walk through it to get the boat to change parks is not a big deal.

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Boats are generally slow. It’s often at least just as fast to walk versus taking the boats at Crescent Lake or Universal Orlando Resort. They’re more leisurely.

Although, instead of wasting open space on parking I’d probably vote for more garages over the train tracks.
 

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