EpcotServo
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LUXURY.
I once saw a wait 875 Minutes long in the blistering heat, in the middle of the road, and when you got to the end they'd thrash you with a broken bottle and kill you in yer' sleep.
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Magic Kingdom closed to ALL guests due to reaching absolute capacity (phase 4)
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LUXURY.
I once saw a wait 875 Minutes long in the blistering heat, in the middle of the road, and when you got to the end they'd thrash you with a broken bottle and kill you in yer' sleep.
peter11435
Well-Known Member
I don't have the patience to sit here and read this entire thread but I must ask, who said this season has never induced a phase 4 before? I can assure you the MK has seen phase 4 during Easter week in the past. Just not in a very long time.
JWG
Well-Known Member
The +3 of 4+3 free and the free dining are two reasons. Resorts will likley lose revenue even if theme parks don't.
castevens
Member
Add Rhode Island to that list
DizneyPryncess
Well-Known Member
Just in case PA isn't already on that list - a few grade schools I know are on break all this week. As are some of the colleges & high schools.
So spring break + Easter + 4/3 deal = mass mayhem.
I love Disney, but I'm glad I'm not there today. I don't think I'd go for free on a phase 4, that would be absolutely miserable. I do not have the patience for it. However I am glad that Disney is doing well & making money in these troubled times. I'm hoping crowds are smaller in May
So spring break + Easter + 4/3 deal = mass mayhem.
I love Disney, but I'm glad I'm not there today. I don't think I'd go for free on a phase 4, that would be absolutely miserable. I do not have the patience for it. However I am glad that Disney is doing well & making money in these troubled times. I'm hoping crowds are smaller in May
krankenstein
Well-Known Member
Add Georgia. The school system I am student teaching at has this week off. The one my Mom works for has next week. :wave:
Don't forget Georgia schools! We are off one week.
hardcard
New Member
It does take CMs. One CM won't make a difference, but 5-10 at an attraction will. They will be pulling people from other attractions or not staffing certain locations.
Not being able to properly staff all positions can cause load/unload issues backing up attractions, making waits longer than they should be if they were running at peak efficiency.
Running half a queue and leaving the rest sitting empty never happens either.
If half of the MK CMs happened to call in tomorrow, do you think the same # of people would be let in the gates?
How many consecutive quarters/years has Disney made a profit? For that amount of money, I haven't seen very many E ticket/high budget attractions open, especially when it comes to MK, the flagship park.
So you think they should dump all their profits into new attractions? not going to happen..
and for FWIW.. When I waited on HM when it was back to the riverboat dock.. The queue was FULLY switched.. it even switched it front of the former fastpass building.. thats not staffing, it's crowd level..
"100,000 guests is the max capacity for the Magic Kingdom. The parking lot closes at 75,000 to allow room for Hotel resort guests arriving on buses, boats and monorail."
Omnimover
Member
I'll assume things are maybe starting to quiet a little over there. As I post this we're 45 mins past closing, so I imagine there are still a ton of people to filter out of the park if enough of them stuck it out until the end of EMH. I just caught up with this thread, but reading all 12 pages has been quite a ride- and I didn't have to wait in a 3 hour queue, either.
Looking forward to some firsthand reports in the near future.
Looking forward to some firsthand reports in the near future.
WDW1974
Well-Known Member
That's something that only folks like Phil, Erin and Meg can answer.
I will say I find it rather odd, but not shocking because ... again ... the week before Easter is traditionally the 2nd busiest of the year.
And Phase 4's have been reached during Easter week often in past years.
I will say a friend of mine (and ex-CM) was there today and there were no phased closings at that time (believe late afternoon) ... he also said the reports of people being diverted to EPCOT parking because TPKaTD-MGMS was supposedly near full sounded very off since Epcot's lot had plenty of parking available. Another CM friend who worked at EPCOT today said that 'the park was busy, but not crazy busy.'
I think a lot of folks are getting lathered up over what simply amounts to pretty typical Easter week/Spring Break crowds.
Thanks. Sometimes I do know what I am talking about ... actually, most of the time.
~55~
WDW1974
Well-Known Member
Late February ...
I believe the parks have gotten busier the past three weeks.
That's normal. That's healthy.
But I also believe/know that staffing issues and reducing capacity on attractions can/does make the parks feel busier. I have no idea if, or to what degree, that is the case now.
An intelligent opinion is that it is likely making some difference, but not very much considering the crowds.
I see that Turkey has answered this already and better than me at this hour ... but I will tell you that money does not equal attractions sadly.
If it did there wouldn't be almost two dozen projects in various states just sitting in deep freeze ... and Disney wouldn't be sitting on its hands with another major anniversary coming up after ignoring some BIG ones since 2001.
That's a great point. And what I have been saying since these threads started.
Do you think the crowds will be like this in another 10 days? I don't.
~Having turkey for dinner!~
WDW1974
Well-Known Member
Not even close to accurate.
Even in its best days, the MK couldn't handle 100,000 people at once.
~Try again~
kramden88
Member
Nobody's guaranteed admission into any park, it says so on the reverse of the ticket. Parks can be closed at any time for any reason. The most that's guaranteed is that you can get into a park.
unkadug
Follower of "Saget"The Cult
For a resort guest to be excluded from admittance to a park they would have to be pretty lazy and unobservant. Sure you may want to sleep in, but to sleep ion until the park is past capacity is just lazy. Sure you may want to go back to your resort midday, but to do so when you see the park filling up and they are already at phase two closing is just pushing your luck.
MousDad
New Member
Timeline: The weeks before Q3 begins.
1. TWDC and Wall Street predict Q3 and Q4 attendance drops at Disney Parks.
2. Full blown implementation of discounted booking packages.
3. 1900 jobs slashed.
Timeline: First week of Q3
1. Disney leaks info predicting attendance record being broken.
2. News of Phase 4 closures, parking lot diversions, etc. comes out on the web.
Current:
Disney stock is up 25.85% over the last 4 week period (YTD -13.53%), for an industry rank of 94 (out of 99).
Smile and wave, boys. Smile and wave.
1. TWDC and Wall Street predict Q3 and Q4 attendance drops at Disney Parks.
2. Full blown implementation of discounted booking packages.
3. 1900 jobs slashed.
Timeline: First week of Q3
1. Disney leaks info predicting attendance record being broken.
2. News of Phase 4 closures, parking lot diversions, etc. comes out on the web.
Current:
Disney stock is up 25.85% over the last 4 week period (YTD -13.53%), for an industry rank of 94 (out of 99).
Smile and wave, boys. Smile and wave.