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News Magic Kingdom and Epcot Fireworks to Resume July 1st

Parker in NYC

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I still don't see the need for them to spend money right now to bring the fireworks back. But if so, it's the most charitable thing they've done since that 15% off coupon for the use of watercraft in Bay Lake. And that's saying a lot.
 

peter11435

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I still don't see the need for them to spend money right now to bring the fireworks back. But if so, it's the most charitable thing they've done since that 15% off coupon for the use of watercraft in Bay Lake. And that's saying a lot.
Fireworks are not charitable. They’ve never had fireworks purely for the guests benefit, they have them because they benefit Disney.
 

mnelson3

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Hmm, DS switching hours on the 27th, first week of July, where you can see stuff in the sky from 🧐 lol. Eh probably has more to do with the crowds coming in that week.
 
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MansionButler84

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In the Parks
No
I still don't see the need for them to spend money right now to bring the fireworks back. But if so, it's the most charitable thing they've done since that 15% off coupon for the use of watercraft in Bay Lake. And that's saying a lot.
They can effectively increase capacity without impacting lines (of course we will see how this plays out) since, particularly in summer, relatively few people arrive at MK at 9 am and stay until close. They hope this will encourage some to show up late to stay out late (as used to be the case). Currently, crowds reach a breaking point in the early afternoon. They need to give more people a reason to stay out late.

Do you know how much they make from dinner in the park and from evening gift shop sales to pacify whiny kids?they don’t want people leaving the park at 5 and heading to Chick-Fil-A.
 

Parker in NYC

Well-Known Member
Hmm, DS switching hours on the 27th, first week of July 🧐 lol. Eh probably has more to do with the crowds coming in that week.
Well, their dinky projection show and a few sparklers would be an easy foray back into "normal". Unless they mean Fantasmic. But that still applies.
 

MisterPenguin

Fully Pfizered!
Premium Member
But they need to add the shows to the Calendar.
Since when are Disney calendars accurate with regard to shows more than a few weeks out?

Remember: This board used to erupt several times a year when fireworks or EMHs didn't appear on the calendar: "They're getting rid of fireworks!! They're getting rid of EMH!!" And sure enough, as we got close to the dates, those events would appear on the schedule.

Long story short: Don't rely on Disney calendars for information. Even the week you're in WDW can have changes in the closing times.
 

havoc315

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They can effectively increase capacity without impacting lines (of course we will see how this plays out) since, particularly in summer, relatively few people arrive at MK at 9 am and stay until close. They hope this will encourage some to show up late to stay out late (as used to be the case). Currently, crowds reach a breaking point in the early afternoon. They need to give more people a reason to stay out late.

Do you know how much they make from dinner in the park and from evening gift shop sales to pacify whiny kids?they don’t want people leaving the park at 5 and heading to Chick-Fil-A.
Agree 1000000% on the second point. They want to keep people on property, especially for dinner with more restaurants increasing capacity. Figure they can get an extra $15 to $75 of revenue for every guest who stays on property for dinner instead of leaving. [with extremely limited dining capacity, there was less reason to have night time entertainment. But as dining capacity increases, there is more reason to incentivize guests to stay on property through the night]

Whether it increases capacity.... I'm not so sure. The question is whether it gets people to shift their hours versus extend their hours. Then there is also the issue of additional guests attracted to the fireworks. (AP holders, locals, who weren't necessarily planning if there weren't fireworks. Also... guests of Animal Kingdom and DHS who might now park hop to MK at 8pm instead of going back to their hotel.)

I suspect the additional guests PLUS the extenders will significantly out-number the shifters.
The people who prefer morning will continue to be morning people. Though additional may now come back at night.
The commando all-day people will have extra reason to truly stay all day.
Maybe a few of the "late arrivers" will be incentivized to arrive a bit later.

Essentially, I suspect fireworks will increase hourly attendance more than it shifts it. Mornings about the same. Nights much heavier.
 

jrhwdw

Well-Known Member
Since when are Disney calendars accurate with regard to shows more than a few weeks out?

Remember: This board used to erupt several times a year when fireworks or EMHs didn't appear on the calendar: "They're getting rid of fireworks!! They're getting rid of EMH!!" And sure enough, as we got close to the dates, those events would appear on the schedule.

Long story short: Don't rely on Disney calendars for information. Even the week you're in WDW can have changes in the closing times.
I get your point, but I'm looking at it as Official Proof. Plus the Times has to be online somewhere since, I'm 95% guesing that we won't see the return of Colorful Times Guides on July 4th!
 

havoc315

Well-Known Member
Since when are Disney calendars accurate with regard to shows more than a few weeks out?

Remember: This board used to erupt several times a year when fireworks or EMHs didn't appear on the calendar: "They're getting rid of fireworks!! They're getting rid of EMH!!" And sure enough, as we got close to the dates, those events would appear on the schedule.

Long story short: Don't rely on Disney calendars for information. Even the week you're in WDW can have changes in the closing times.

All true. But as I'm about to book August dining.. I really wish I knew whether Animal Kingdom was really closing at 6 or whether it will be extended... whether DHS will really be 7 and whether Epcot is really closing at 9.
When a closing time changes from 10pm to 11pm, it doesn't really affect my planning. But when they are still shifting around early evening / dinner hours, it really makes planning hard. (I'd make a dinner reservation at AK at 5, if I could ride FOP after... but that wouldn't be possible with a 6pm closing time. I'd try to have cocktails at Oga's at 7pm... if the park was going to be open until 8... I'd plan a night-park hop to Epcot from 8-10pm.. etc).
 

MansionButler84

Well-Known Member
In the Parks
No
Agree 1000000% on the second point. They want to keep people on property, especially for dinner with more restaurants increasing capacity. Figure they can get an extra $15 to $75 of revenue for every guest who stays on property for dinner instead of leaving. [with extremely limited dining capacity, there was less reason to have night time entertainment. But as dining capacity increases, there is more reason to incentivize guests to stay on property through the night]

Whether it increases capacity.... I'm not so sure. The question is whether it gets people to shift their hours versus extend their hours. Then there is also the issue of additional guests attracted to the fireworks. (AP holders, locals, who weren't necessarily planning if there weren't fireworks. Also... guests of Animal Kingdom and DHS who might now park hop to MK at 8pm instead of going back to their hotel.)

I suspect the additional guests PLUS the extenders will significantly out-number the shifters.
The people who prefer morning will continue to be morning people. Though additional may now come back at night.
The commando all-day people will have extra reason to truly stay all day.
Maybe a few of the "late arrivers" will be incentivized to arrive a bit later.

Essentially, I suspect fireworks will increase hourly attendance more than it shifts it. Mornings about the same. Nights much heavier.
I agree that it will end up equating to more people, which they want. I was more suggesting that it spreads people out more. In my experience, a relatively small number of people are nuts like us, who rope-drop and close down the parks. Fireworks will allow Disney to increase capacity and push more hoppers, building up an evening surge again, which hasn’t really been a thing in recent times. Longer hours with pyro also push on-site guests to the resort to swim and buy more food.
 

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