M. Inc. means World for Epcot?

mousermerf

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Original Poster
Eveything i've read says the foundation is there and it got pulled because of the WWII stuff.

Find me a link that says it can't fit? That sounds too silly.
 

nate_dakparking

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I know! I know! I know! I'm totally sure that they will but a new Nemo ride there! It tooootally fits! You know, like Nemo sushi and stuff. :lookaroun :hammer:
 

Merlin0402

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I agree that it does sound a little odd to believe that the imagineers would build a building specifically for a show, knowing the exact measurements of the show and the size of the building they would need, and then not be able to install it because the building was too small. That just doesn't make sense. I have a feeling that it probably had more to do with the show not connecting with American audiences...
 

Epcot82Guy

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I think it is an exciting possibility, but I agree with the problems of the sizing of the building. I thought I remembered there being talks of reworking Meet the World to be a theater followed by a moving theater-type attraction. I could be very wrong. However, that would solve the problem in some way since you could have a two-story attraction like horizons (albeit smaller) using the general idea of Meet the World.
 

lamarvenoy

New Member
I'm with ya merf, I understood what you were saying and I agree. As soon you say Monsters inc and Epcot in the same post people start wigging out.I agree it seems like a good idea to move the show to the US and from what you are saying it seems probable.
 

peter11435

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cm1988 said:
As others have pointed out, Meet the World (which opened at TDL in 1983) would not fit in the building at the Japan pavilion, though a copy was to have been installed there at about the time Epcot received Morocco. Instead, they got a warehouse.

The Rhine River attraction never had a building at Germany - other than space for its entry and queue, some of it now used as seating for the snack bar outside the restaurant.
My understanding that MTW was designed to be installed at Japan in WS from the very start. It would have been there at the opening of the park, not a few years later when they added Morocco. I still think the buidling at Japan was built for and is big enough for the meet the world show. However that said I highly doubt we will se it at Epcot.
 

peter11435

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Sledge said:
That always made me wonder. Why does everyone say it would be better suited for MGM? All the dark rides are in the MK.
There are dark rides at all four WDW parks. TGMR and SSE are dark rides.
 

DisneyBunny

Active Member
Correct me if I'm wrong, but wasn't Meet the World supposed to be about teaching the young Japanese about who they are, and why it is important to be part of the global community? If this is the case, what modifications would have to take place so that it would be better presented to an Epcot audience?

I personally would love to see something, anything new in the World Showcase, and if it involves AAs, I'm a happy little bunny. :D
 

Empress Room

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cm1988 said:
The Rhine River attraction never had a building at Germany - other than space for its entry and queue, some of it now used as seating for the snack bar outside the restaurant.

Are you sure? I'm fairly certain that there have been several articles on the web (JH Media comes to mind) detailing the German dark ride. As I understand it, the queue entry and exit to the show building exists in the back of the Biergarten and there is, in fact, a very large show building attached to the pavillion that is now used for miscellaneous storage/warehousing but is intended for the never-built ride.

A search on the satellite picture of Epcot through Google Earth sure seems to support this.
 

ArielBelle

Member
mousermerf said:
While this replacement of a shuttered attraction (since 2002) seems like good measure and such..

Question..I may be completely stupid, but what does "shuttered attraction" mean? Sorrrry..
 

DDPGambit

Member
According to the 1982 Epcot book,

"Japan pavilion's show, when it is ready, will afford and unparalleled overview of Japanese history. Entitled, "Meet The World", it will also be the feature attraction of Tokyo Disneyland, scheduled to open in 1983."
"Inside the castle, the audience is seated in rotating carrousel theater, which will revolve in front of four stages, each presenting a chapter of the story of Japan."
 

PintoColvig

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ArielBelle said:
Question..I may be completely stupid, but what does "shuttered attraction" mean? Sorrrry..

shutter transitive verb(1826)
1 : to close by or as if by shutters
2 : to furnish with shutters
3: to close

A shutter attraction is a closed or no longer open attraction. Hope that helps
:king:
 

jedimaster1227

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mousermerf said:
I was saying Epcot might get Meet the World finally.. not M Inc. oy vei :(

Oy vei is right! (Yiddush words rule!) I think your hypothesis makes perfect sense because everytime I have been at Epcot these past few weeks, the building keeps being put under heavier amounts of work.
 

marni1971

Park History nut
Premium Member
Phew.. I arrived late to this one!

Meet the World was designed and built for the Japan Pavilion. It was finished and ready to go. When it came to it, it was found the shed to house the theatre (a square box, not round like the CoP) was between 2-6 foot too small, and several key support beams were in the way of the carousel theatre. TDL was opening in 1983, and bingo! Now we can sell it to the OLC and not have to write it off.
 

mousermerf

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Original Poster
Marn, I still have problems believing this is mroe than a rumor that's been repeated too many times.

Why would the Epcot book say the plan was to open it at both TDL and Epcot if they had to sell it to TDL since they botched the building? Rather, it implies both were planned, but for some reason Epcot's version was scrapped.

I've scoured the net - and if you can give a credible source i'm all for it, but the only thing i can find is the same reason time and again. It was the complaints over American Adventure when it opened that made them worry about the WWII scene.
 

marni1971

Park History nut
Premium Member
Having read between the lines on this quite a lot I finally contacted an ex CM and friend who worked at EPCOT Center in the early days - and had a huge interest in the design and operation of the parks (more than we do) and it was he who tied up the loose ends. I may have it wrong that only one was built, rather than a duplicate at the same time - indeed I probably was wrong having just read the EPCOT book myself. My friend didn`t mention this part, only the part regarding the EPCOT version being complete but not fitting (he specifically talked about the supports and the 6ft maximum size)
 

Captain Hank

Well-Known Member
If it's true that a duplicate show was made at the same time, I wonder if any of the unused show elements found their way into other attractions.
 

ArielBelle

Member
icorsix said:
shutter transitive verb(1826)
1 : to close by or as if by shutters
2 : to furnish with shutters
3: to close

A shutter attraction is a closed or no longer open attraction. Hope that helps
:king:


Thanks..I mean, I figured...being used to "shuttering" my home for Hurricanes!
 

DigitalDisney

New Member
I think we can all agree that something needs to go into the Japan building. It's just too big to not be used.

A dark ride would be the simplest solution. There's enough room to have two or three levels of dark ride goodness there. An anime-based ride would be damn cool here.

Germany also needs to be completed as well. The Rhine boat cruise would be cheap to build and maintain (the building is already there), and it would give people something to do in World Showcase that doesn't involve watching a movie.

While we're on this topic, I'd love to see a museum or hall built in Italy that covers DaVinci, Galileo, Michaelangelo, and the Italian Renaissance in general.
 

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