Fractal514
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No, just air fare.
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No, just air fare.
We live in Indianapolis (much closer to WDW), and I've yet to pay >$50 extra to fly to SNA as compared to MCO. Just have to watch airfare.
Plus, Disneyland is cheaper (for us) because everything is within walking distance and there's no "requirement" to stay at a (more expensive) Disney-owned hotel.
What I'm saying, is that in my experience, the "extra cost" argument is at best an exaggeration, and more likely, a myth.
Just posted a few more videos: http://www.disneytouristblog.com/d23-expo-2011-live-news-coverage/
Not much news to report right now as the Studios event has an electronics blackout. Expect a flurry of updates once it lets out!!!
Not much news to report right now as the Studios event has an electronics blackout. Expect a flurry of updates once it lets out!!!
Details are starting to trickle out. Two new Pixar movies announced! Theme park implications? Hopefully a dinosaur attraction!!!!
jt04
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You can never have too many dinosaur attractions! As best I can tell, the movies are untitled as of right now. I'm sure we'll know more once the session lets out.
jt04
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It seems all the live feeds were shut down. Waiting patiently.
I had heard a dinosaur movie was a possibility.
There was an electronics blackout for the event. The streams are starting to come back online, so I guess the session is over?
lebeau
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Doesn't sound like much of anything was announced at the studios presentation either:
http://eon.businesswire.com/news/eon/20110820005016/en/D23-Expo/Disney-D23/Marvel-D23
http://eon.businesswire.com/news/eon/20110820005016/en/D23-Expo/Disney-D23/Marvel-D23
That's not the impression I got from reading that. The number of tweets along the lines of "the WDS presentation was awesome" (a lot) far outnumber the negative ones (none that I've seen).
It's disappointing to me that if a presentation isn't filled with tons of huge announcements, it's a failure.
I guess Disney set themselves up for this kind of mentality with 2009, though.
Captain Chaos
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What made last night's presentation a failure wasn't its lack of announcements... I think most of us knew we'd get nothing new... The presentation was flat, dull, boring... Lacked energy... These kinds of presentations should be pep rallies, not coma inducing borefests....
Every speaker last night was dull, boring, and showed they really didn't want to be there... Except for maybe the DLR President...
MKCP 1985
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Perhaps from your airport, or for people from Indianapolis, but I assure you that is not the case everywhere.
Round trip from, say, New Orleans to MCO is almost always under $300 with advance planning and often a direct flight, but is hardly ever under $400 to LAX or John Wayne and almost always requires a plane change. Moreover, I can drive to Orlando and be there in 9 hours, but to drive to Anaheim is a 2 day drive.
It is also a myth to think WDW vacations require staying on site but Disneyland vacations don't. There are more than plenty of modestly priced offsite hotels with shuttles to Disney parks at WDW also.
anyway, if Scarlett Johanssen keeps showing up for D23 expo events like she did today, ticket sales will not suffer.
This is a good point. It seemed like it started out with a bang, and then sort of fizzled off, and didn't really conclude well.
How is it that DLR hires presidents that have such passion for their park? Awesome.
From the outside, it appears to me that the biggest criticism of D23 from those who are there, by far, is the poor crowd management.
Perhaps from your airport, or for people from Indianapolis, but I assure you that is not the case everywhere.
Round trip from, say, New Orleans to MCO is almost always under $300 with advance planning and often a direct flight, but is hardly ever under $400 to LAX or John Wayne and almost always requires a plane change. Moreover, I can drive to Orlando and be there in 9 hours, but to drive to Anaheim is a 2 day drive.
It is also a myth to think WDW vacations require staying on site but Disneyland vacations don't. There are more than plenty of modestly priced offsite hotels with shuttles to Disney parks at WDW also.
anyway, if Scarlett Johanssen keeps showing up for D23 expo events like she did today, ticket sales will not suffer.
Wow, maybe I'm just lucky with regard to airfare. We typically pay $200 RT or less to MCO, and $250 RT or less to SNA.
With regard to staying off-site at each: staying off-site at WDW really penalizes you with regard to EMH. Not the case at DLR. Also, you have to rent a car if you stay off-site at WDW. Not the case at DLR. If you don't care about EMH, and would rent a car at DLR regardless, I suppose your mileage may vary on these things.
As for your last comment: :lol:
BVS presentation starting--this should be another cool P&R presentation! (Warning: don't expect announcements.)
lebeau
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Exactly. I would have liked to have seen a bombshell or two dropped in last night's P&R presentation. But if the presentation had been better, the lack of new info wouldn't have mattered. The show was flat and boring. That's inexcusable from a company like Disney where show is the business.
(Especially at $40/head!)
I didn't get to view the Studios presentation. Maybe it was more lively. (I think it would have to be.) The only thing I have to go on is the list of announcements. That list is underwhelming. But perhaps the presentation was a hit by virtue of being entertaining.
lebeau
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Here's what EW had to say about the Avengers footage:
http://insidemovies.ew.com/2011/08/20/avengers-footage-d23/
Edit: I just finished reading this myself. Sounds like the Avengers footage was a big hit.
We have a Hulk! Awesome.
http://insidemovies.ew.com/2011/08/20/avengers-footage-d23/
Edit: I just finished reading this myself. Sounds like the Avengers footage was a big hit.
We have a Hulk! Awesome.
Tickets for the Expo aren't by session, they're by day or for the full weekend. Even if you have a ticket for the day, you're not guaranteed a seat at any particular presentation. Not sure if that makes the cost/value seem better or worse to you, just throwing it out there.
Cosmic Commando
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There is a side of me that likes to see what kind of ideas WDI can come up with and how they "make the magic real". If they announced a new hotel that was going to be even pricier than the GF, I would enjoy reading about it even though I would never ever spend the money to stay there. But I think most people are more excited about things that they will actually visit and experience in person. Even among the Disney superfans at D23, how many will ever make the trek to Shanghai? If it was 20%, I would be shocked.
I wasn't expecting a FLE-sized project being announced yesterday, but I thought there would be something on the scale of MILF or the HM refurb. To have nothing new for WDW was disappointing; there's no way around it for me. Iger has said that the level of investment lately in P&R overall was an "aberration"; I think the level of investment in WDW has been average or very very slightly below average even. The places that could use some investment are there:
-DAK: There is an entire Adirondack-themed land whose sole attraction is an African stage show. C'mon!
-DHS: TSMM has shown the demand for a family ride here. DHS has the E-tickets, now give us C's and D's.
-Epcot: I LOVE Imagination and UoE, but I have never waited behind more than five people to see Figment. UoE probably takes too long for today's audiences. WoL is a open 4 months a year as a festival center... isn't that what World Showplace was supposed to be?
-MK: MK is getting a huge expansion and I think it's really set for attractions. But... I have seen a picture of the castle/snow globe float from 1991 and the most recent movie featured in MSEP is Pete's Dragon from 1977.
I certainly didn't expect all of the perceived problems at WDW to wiped away yesterday, I just wanted a little bone thrown my way. You say FLE is the aberrational spending; I say it got us up to normal. I'm willing to consider the FLE as a whole as the E-ticket MK has gone almost 20 years without, but I think there should be smaller projects around the World concurrent to FLE.
The worrisome thing to me is that if there's nothing new announced for WDW, what I thought was the "average" might have really been the "high". And that makes me sad inside.
lebeau
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That makes it seem better.
I hadn't bothered looking into pricing since going to the Expo is impossible for me. But a saw a commenter indicating he paid $4o for the presentation and that seemed ridiculous. $4o for entry is acceptable even if the P&R presentation left something to be desired.