News Live-Action Ariel Meet and Greet at Disney’s Hollywood Studios

[UNCgolf]

No, they don't. But when I'm Disney Tired, I'll take just about anything.

ETA: This may come as a surprise, but Lipton's, though weak, is usually the safest bet, and certainly preferable to fancier brands such as Tazo.

I actually like Twinings the best if I'm going to have to use a tea bag, but that's a last resort. I usually get nice loose leaf tea shipped to me.

I've never tried it with milk, though -- even in London! I think high quality tea is good as-is with nothing added, but I do like to add a bit of honey and lemon.

 

[Casper Gutman]

I will be more than happy too if we can keep it respectful.

You are 100% correct. Mermaids are mythical creatures and can be any color.

However we are not talking about “mermaids” we are talking about one specific mermaid Ariel.

Ariel was thrust into mainstream culture in 1989 with the smash hit The Little Mermaid.

Now when then animated classic was produced Ariel was portrayed with a fair skin tone (white) and red hair.

This is part of the identity of the character that makes her instantly recognizable.

If the original animated classic had portrayed Ariel with a dark skin tone ( black ) and black hair, that is how she would be instantly recognized today.

I would find this entire situation just as stupid if Ariel was originally black now being portrayed by a white actress.

Just because mermaids are not real and can be any color doesn’t mean that a specific and immediately recognizable character should be changed.

I look forward to hearing your point of view.

Animated Ariel was ANIMATED. This one isn’t. The Ariel with which we’re familiar, the one “thrust into the mainstream,” was ink on a cel, and more then anything else that is the aspect of her existence that was most fundamental to her “identity.” If we’re ready to accept the existential change from animated to live action, it seems like it should be easy to accept the much more minor racial change.

Folks should also remember that the long history and broader cultural significance of white people pretending to be black is very different then that of black people pretending to be white, and even if you’d like to ignore that immensely fraught baggage, it’s still going to be inescapably present in any such performance.

 

[BuddyThomas]

I will be more than happy too if we can keep it respectful.

You are 100% correct. Mermaids are mythical creatures and can be any color.

However we are not talking about “mermaids” we are talking about one specific mermaid Ariel.

Ariel was thrust into mainstream culture in 1989 with the smash hit The Little Mermaid.

Now when then animated classic was produced Ariel was portrayed with a fair skin tone (white) and red hair.

This is part of the identity of the character that makes her instantly recognizable.

If the original animated classic had portrayed Ariel with a dark skin tone ( black ) and black hair, that is how she would be instantly recognized today.

I would find this entire situation just as stupid if Ariel was originally black now being portrayed by a white actress.

Just because mermaids are not real and can be any color doesn’t mean that a specific and immediately recognizable character should be changed.

I look forward to hearing your point of view.

How fascinating. Are you also of the opinion that James Bond can only be played by white males?

In any case, there is absolutely no reason to remake The Little Mermaid if they were going to do everything exactly the same as the original. There is absolutely no reason why the character has to be white. None whatsoever.

There was just a Broadway revival of Death of a Salesman and the cast was black. It got rave reviews.

If Willie Loman can be black, so can a little mermaid. The children will not care. Just the biased parents.

 

[LittleBuford]

I actually like Twinings the best if I'm going to have to use a tea bag, but that's a last resort. I usually get nice loose leaf tea shipped to me.

The Twinings sold in the US is different from the Twinings sold in the UK. I enjoy the latter but am not a fan of the former.

I've never tried it with milk, though -- even in London! I think high quality tea is good as-is with nothing added, but I do like to add a bit of honey and lemon.

To me, milk is to (British) tea what butter is to bread—it enhances the underlying flavour. The English Breakfast–style brands of tea that most Brits drink—PG, Tetley, Yorkshire, etc.— are designed to be drunk with milk, and that’s the way they will be served to you in a typical greasy-spoon “caff” unless you specify otherwise. I recommend trying a proper “builder’s brew” (unfussy strong black tea with milk) the next time you’re in the UK! It’s delicious!

 

[Tom P.]

 

[LittleBuford]

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Needs milk!

 

[Tom P.]

Needs milk!

I could be wrong, but I don't believe we ever do see Captain Picard take milk with his tea throughout the series. Perhaps that is just further proof that he really is French despite his British accent?

 

[LittleBuford]

I could be wrong, but I don't believe we ever do see Captain Picard take milk with his tea throughout the series. Perhaps that is just further proof that he really is French despite his British accent?

Or maybe it’s Earl Grey, which is indeed meant to be drunk black, though those of us who aren’t posh often break that rule.

 

[Trauma]

How fascinating. Are you also of the opinion that James Bond can only be played by white males?

In any case, there is absolutely no reason to remake The Little Mermaid if they were going to do everything exactly the same as the original. There is absolutely no reason why the character has to be white. None whatsoever.

There was just a Broadway revival of Death of a Salesman and the cast was black. It got rave reviews.

If Willie Lomma can be black, so can a little mermaid. The children will not care. Just the biased parents.

I guess I’m not much of a fan of remakes period. If something is remade I think it should stick as close to the source material as possible.

There is a reason it was popular to begin with.

I will comment on Bond since you asked.

I wish it was over after Sean Connery.

You also included gender in your question, so yes if Bond has to be regurgitated again then I think “James” should be played by a male.

I don’t think it’s makes a parent biased to want to see the characters they love portrayed as they know them.

I would have been upset if Mario ended up being race and gender swapped to update it for a “modern audience”.

Of course the movie is going to make more than a billion so that speaks for itself.

 

[SpectroMagician]

Pete Docter, who wrote Soul also wrote Monsters Inc, Up & Inside Out.
Encanto, by Jared Bush also wrote Zootopia & Moana.

It's irrelevant, Disney didn't hire these writers to "push an agenda". They hired them to write movies, which they did. You not liking them is your problem.

I think Disney has the problem that a lot of people are not liking their new content. How did Lightyear, Turning Red, and Strange World do for them? How about the Star Wars franchise or Phase 4 of Marvel? Things are not looking good because mostly the sorties stink and people do not like them.

Sure there are a couple good ones in there, but you are lying if you are trying to pretend that Disney creative is in a good spot right now.

 

[BuddyThomas]

I guess I’m not much of a fan of remakes period. If something is remade I think it should stick as close to the source material as possible.

There is a reason it was popular to begin with.

I will comment on Bond since you asked.

I wish it was over after Sean Connery.

You also included gender in your question, so yes if Bond has to be regurgitated again then I think “James” should be played by a male.

I don’t think it’s makes a parent biased to want to see the characters they love portrayed as they know them.

I would have been upset if Mario ended up being race and gender swapped to update it for a “modern audience”.

Of course the movie is going to make more than a billion so that speaks for itself.

Mario and Luigi are specifically Italian.

I am not aware of any specific mythological races or ethnicities for mermaids.

 

[MagicHappens1971]

I think Disney has the problem that a lot of people are not liking their new content. How did Lightyear, Turning Red, and Strange World do for them? How about the Star Wars franchise or Phase 4 of Marvel? Things are not looking good because mostly the sorties stink and people do not like them.

Sure there are a couple good ones in there, but you are lying if you are trying to pretend that Disney creative is in a good spot right now.

Mando, Andor, and all of the Disney+ shows, Book of Boba Fett excluded have been extremely popular, to the point that they are producing a "Mandoverse" movie that culminates most of the Disney+ shows. They've also just announced two other Star Wars films, and the highly anticipated Ahsoka show will be debuting this August. The Star Wars franchise is not nearly in "shambles" as people make it out to be.

Phase 4 has for sure had a few duds, but has also had some pretty big successes, both commercially and critically, WandaVision, Black Panther: Wakanda Forever, Spiderman: No Way Home, Doctor Strange in the Multiverse of Madness and Ms. Marvel.

WDAS/Pixar, aside from Encanto hasn't produced many great films in recent years, I will give you that.

 

[DKampy]

I guess I’m not much of a fan of remakes period. If something is remade I think it should stick as close to the source material as possible.

then you must have disliked the animated The Little Mermaid

 

[James Alucobond]

Or maybe it’s Earl Grey, which is indeed meant to be drunk black, though those of us who aren’t posh often break that rule.

It is. His order to the replicator is always, "Tea, Earl Grey, hot."

 

[Figgy1]

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[UNCgolf]

The Twinings sold in the US is different from the Twinings sold in the UK. I enjoy the latter but am not a fan of the former.


To me, milk is to (British) tea what butter is to bread—it enhances the underlying flavour. The English Breakfast–style brands of tea that most Brits drink—PG, Tetley, Yorkshire, etc.— are designed to be drunk with milk, and that’s the way they will be served to you in a typical greasy-spoon “caff” unless you specify otherwise. I recommend trying a proper “builder’s brew” (unfussy strong black tea with milk) the next time you’re in the UK! It’s delicious!

I typically drink Earl Grey, so I guess that's why I've never had milk (based on your later comment)! Great with a little honey and lemon, though, as I mentioned. I also occasionally drink some other blends (Earl Grey Creme, Darjeeling, Golden Monkey, etc.), but mainly Earl Grey.

I've had English Breakfast Tea before and thought it was too bitter, so the milk thing makes total sense now.

 

[Trauma]

Mario and Luigi are specifically Italian.

I am not aware of any specific mythological races or ethnicities for mermaids.

Well we are talking in circles. I respect your opinion

At the end of the day the public will vote with their wallet if this is a change they wanted.

This should easily do over a billion if it is what people are looking for.

 

[Trauma]

then you must have disliked the animated The Little Mermaid

I wasn’t aware of any The Little Mermaid movies that came before the Disney version.

 

[LittleBuford]

I wasn’t aware of any The Little Mermaid movies that came before the Disney version.

I think the point he was making is that Disney's The Little Mermaid is already very far from the source material.

 

[Figgy1]

I wasn’t aware of any The Little Mermaid movies that came before the Disney version.

There were quite a few based on HCA, mostly European but Bass Rankin did one in the 60s