Live-Action ‘Snow White and the Seven Dwarfs’

[Vegas Disney Fan]

I'm curious where did you see that, because all the reports of early screenings that I've seen just comments on Rachel's, Gal's, and Andrew's performances, nothing on the content of the story or the dwarfs.

I did a google search and received a lot of search results, they all seem to be based of a disinsider article and a couple of tweets though so who knows if there’s any truth to any of it.

The articles mention positive reviews of the stars but also mention that many fans are upset by Zieglers comments and the films decision to replace the dwarfs, although it doesn’t say if the screening confirmed there aren’t dwarfs, just more speculation surrounding what has become a very controversial film.

 

[LittleBuford]

Positive reports from whom?

They were posted in this thread last year:

Snow white had test screening while ago.




And here i suspected would be the official poster of the movie.
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Don't knows. But here's the further information regarding the early screening of the film. That's included the budget as well.
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[Disney Irish]

I did a google search and received a lot of search results, they all seem to be based of a disinsider article and a couple of tweets though so who knows if there’s any truth to any of it.

The articles mention positive reviews of the stars but also mention that many fans are upset by Zieglers comments and the films decision to replace the dwarfs, although it doesn’t say if the screening confirmed there aren’t dwarfs, just more speculation surrounding what has become a very controversial film.

Exactly, I found the same from my search a bit earlier. So yep more speculation, so nothing to see here.

 

[Vegas Disney Fan]

They’re quoted in a post of mine from last year:

That’s funny, we had this discussion so long ago I had completely forgotten we’d already had this discussion.

Guess when a movies in production for half a century that’s bound to happen.

 

[LittleBuford]

That’s funny, we had this discussion so long ago I had completely forgotten we’d already had this discussion.

Guess when a movies in production for half a century that’s bound to happen.

I just changed my post so that it links directly to the relevant posts, bypassing our little exchange. I’d forgotten we’d had it too!

 

[Disney Irish]

They were posted in this thread last year:

What's funny in that same tweet thread is the following -



So this all but confirms even back when the "7 friends" photo came out that CGI for the dwarfs was being used.

 

[LittleBuford]

Right, I’m not here to say it’s not possible.

But I also have a hard time believing much of anything, unless it’s coming from a reputable source. There was an active anti-Disney campaign over the last few years, and anti “woke” campaigns, and this movie was a large target for them.

When there is so much money to be made, just by spreading whatever nonsense riles people up, I become suspect. Follow the money. What did these people have to gain? Who is the audience?

The report I was thinking of (and which I just provided a link to) is really positive; it doesn’t read like a hit piece or something designed to rile people up, though anything is possible I suppose.

 

[LittleBuford]

What's funny in that same tweet is the following -



So this all but confirms even back when the "7 friends" photo came out that CGI was being used.

I was thinking more of the second post I shared (with all the screenshots). That goes so far as to praise the bandits’ face-acting.

 

[Disney Irish]

I was thinking more of the second post I shared (with all the screenshots). That goes so far as to praise the bandits’ face-acting.

Except even the twitter account on the early screening stated, the VFX was not completed at the time of the screening, so that second post shows how incomplete the information being posted was. But that its confirmed that there would be dwarfs and they would be CGI, based on the early screening.

So again this is all assumptions based on bad and incomplete information.

 

[donaldtoo]

I haven’t really been keeping up with this thread, but when the original animated film was in production, it was referred to as “Disney’s Folly”, and we all know how that turned out.
This one seems have had many of its own issues during production.
Obviously, we won’t know for sure until it’s released, but I’m wondering if there may be a general consensus out there regarding the success, or not, of this film…?

 

[Chi84]

I was thinking more of the second post I shared (with all the screenshots). That goes so far as to praise the bandits’ face-acting.

From what I’m seeing they are the original dwarves with a different job (bandits) and that’s why they’re hiding from the queen.

I doubt they’ll be called dwarves.

 

[Tha Realest]

This comment has been driving me nuts. The original is not 'remarkable short'. It was the FIRST FULL LENGTH ANIMATED MOVIE EVER when it was released. No one thought you could make an animated movie that long before. The world had never seen ANYTHING like it before and it changed movies FOREVER. Is it short by 2024 standards? Duh! But back when it was released it was a remarkable achievement to make something that long.
Rant over.

This is a great point. It’s a bit of recency bias to complain the film was short. For reference, few modern animated films are that much longer than Snow White’s runtime, and falls well within the mean of WDAS output over the decades:

 

[Chi84]

This is a great point. It’s a bit of recency bias to complain the film was short. For reference, few modern animated films are that much longer than Snow White’s runtime, and falls well within the mean of WDAS output over the decades:

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There is length and there is length. What I’m saying is a modern audience would not sit through 80 minutes with so little plot or action.

That’s probably more an indictment of the attention spans of current audiences than the original film, but having recently watched the original I’m confident in my opinion.

 

[LittleBuford]

From what I’m seeing they are the original dwarves with a different job (bandits) and that’s why they’re hiding from the queen.

I doubt they’ll be called dwarves.

That’s a valid take. The report does, however, refer to their face-acting, which means that its author must have been seeing live actors. My interpretation of the tweet that @Disney Irish shared is that CGI was being used to enhance these actors rather than to create the characters from scratch, but obviously I can’t be sure of anything.

I think I’ve proven quite convincingly that I’m not among those rooting for this project to fail, nor am I a conspiracy theorist by nature, so I’ve no ideological reasons to subscribe to the belief (or at least strong suspicion) that the classic-looking dwarfs that were ultimately unveiled were a panicked response to all the criticism. I’ll happily accept my mistake if there is definitive evidence to the contrary.

 

[Disney Irish]

That’s a valid take. The report does, however, refer to their face-acting, which means that its author must have been seeing live actors. My interpretation of the tweet that @Disney Irish shared is that CGI was being used to enhance these actors rather than to create the characters from scratch, but obviously I can’t be sure of anything.

I think I’ve proven quite convincingly that I’m not among those rooting for this project to fail, nor am I a conspiracy theorist by nature, so I’ve no ideological reasons to subscribe to the belief (or at least strong suspicion) that the classic-looking dwarfs that were ultimately unveiled were a panicked response to all the criticism. I’ll happily accept my mistake if there is definitive evidence to the contrary.

Except what the author of the run down of the screening from the second post saw was incomplete, which was confirmed by the twitter thread from your own post. So that indicates that any face actor, was either A. not the "dwarfs" or B. a pre-VFX version of the "dwarfs".

But what is clear is the early screening 100% confirms there were always dwarfs, even if they maybe called something else like "bandits" within the story of the movie. So this idea that there was to be no dwarfs originally and its only Disney reacting to negative mob feedback and quickly putting in dwarfs is 100% debunked.

Now the only thing I cannot confirm based on these tweets of the early screening is if all 7 dwarfs were to be CGI or not. Its seems like there is conflicting stories that some were to be CGI and some were to be live-action, but cannot say 100%. That might have been something that was listed as a possibility within the discussions of the early screenings. So that is the only thing that may have changed, is Disney might have gone back and decided to make all 7 CGI to avoid any further negativity.

 

[Chi84]

Except what the author of the run down of the screening from the second post saw was incomplete, which was confirmed by the twitter thread from your own post. So that indicates that any face actor, was either A. not the "dwarfs" or B. a pre-VFX version of the "dwarfs".

But what is clear is the early screening 100% confirms there were always dwarfs, even if they maybe called something else like "bandits" within the story of the movie. So this idea that there was to be no dwarfs originally and its only Disney reacting to negative mob feedback and quickly putting in dwarfs is 100% debunked.

Now the only thing I cannot confirm based on these tweets of the early screening is if all 7 dwarfs were to be CGI or not. Its seems like there is conflicting stories that some were to be CGI and some were to be live-action, but cannot say 100%. That might have been something that was listed as a possibility within the discussions of the early screenings. So that is the only thing that may have changed, is Disney might have gone back and decided to make all 7 CGI to avoid any further negativity.

When people read “the dwarfs are now like the merry men” they may have interpreted the word “like” as filler rather than a preposition meaning “similar to.” Get rid of that pesky word and the dwarves become something else lol.

 

[brb1006]

Is nobody going to mention that Dopey has hair now?

He now looks... weirdly attractive which I'd never thought I would say about Dopey of all things!

 

[Disney Irish]

When people read “the dwarfs are now like the merry men” they may have interpreted the word “like” as filler rather than a preposition meaning “similar to.” Get rid of that pesky word and the dwarves become something else lol.

It shows how much the internet for all its advancements has really done a disservice to our society.

 

[LittleBuford]

Except what the author of the run down of the screening from the second post saw was incomplete, which was confirmed by the twitter thread from your own post. So that indicates that any face actor, was either A. not the "dwarfs" or B. a pre-VFX version of the "dwarfs".

But what is clear is the early screening 100% confirms there were always dwarfs, even if they maybe called something else like "bandits" within the story of the movie. So this idea that there was to be no dwarfs originally and its only Disney reacting to negative mob feedback and quickly putting in dwarfs is 100% debunked.

Now the only thing I cannot confirm based on these tweets of the early screening is if all 7 dwarfs were to be CGI or not. Its seems like there is conflicting stories that some were to be CGI and some were to be live-action, but cannot say 100%. That might have been something that was listed as a possibility within the discussions of the early screenings. So that is the only thing that may have changed, is Disney might have gone back and decided to make all 7 CGI to avoid any further negativity.

Your second and third paragraphs are in conflict with each other, because if Disney did indeed overhaul the characters to look like classic cartoony dwarfs (which you acknowledge they may have), then they are indeed guilty of doing exactly what people (myself included) accused them of.

Either way, this isn’t something I’m particularly concerned about. The only point I wanted to make is that one doesn’t have to be an anti-Zegler conspiracy theorist to believe that Disney may have made some pretty drastic changes to the dwarf characters in response to all the bad publicity.

 

[LittleBuford]

When people read “the dwarfs are now like the merry men” they may have interpreted the word “like” as filler rather than a preposition meaning “similar to.” Get rid of that pesky word and the dwarves become something else lol.

You really think I’m incapable of comprehending written English?